Black Bars or No Black Bars?

Cipher · Post by **Cipher** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:01 am

Rod wrote:Well to be fair, playing Blu rays on an old 'square' TV pretty much defeats the purpose. You might as well just get a DVD

You know what?

You're absolutely right. I can't believe that slipped my mind. They don't make 4:3 HD TVs, so moot point.

Adamant · Post by **Adamant** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:10 am

Then again, since these people clearly don't give too much of a shit how good the picture looks, you'd wonder why they'd want to spend money on HD TVs and Blurays in the first place.

nathantheguitarist · Post by **nathantheguitarist** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:38 am

You... just made me kinda sad Adamant.

I'd kill for an HDTV and a Blu-Ray or PS3 right now, as poor as my ass is. The fact that there's people here that ruin picture quality (and on-purpose even) makes me consider how many people in the world that also don't care about it and watch nasty looking picture... Edit: A Dish Network commercial just said 30% of HDTV owners don't watch HD programming. Sigh.

My point is, anyone want to give their TV to me if they're just going to be stupid with it?

Big Momma · Post by **Big Momma** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:52 am

nathantheguitarist wrote:...lordy. I was facepalming at this thread before, but damn dude.

You stretch out the Dragon Boxes enough to have bars on the top and bottom? Is that even possible? Or is this Kai you were talking about? ...either way.

I was actually talking about the FUNi single of "Path to Power", as I was watching that when I posted that. My TV has a setting to stretch the picture to widescreen.

nathantheguitarist · Post by **nathantheguitarist** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:22 am

Still with black bars on top and bottom though? Are you stretching it to an anamorphic widescreen 2.35:1, or just a normal 16:9 I mean... I'm confused... and horrified lol.

Adamant · Post by **Adamant** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:33 am

But... the movies were meant to be seen in widescreen, so the fullscreen picture you're stretching has image parts not intended to be seen. What you're literally doing is stretching a widescreen image in order to see the parts you weren't meant to see on your TV while also filling the screen, regardless of how bad the result looks.

...dude, just click the zoom button.

The Time Traveller · Post by **The Time Traveller** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:29 am

If there was a way to move subtitles I'd watch some stuff cropped, abso-lutely, but not DB, DBZ or GT, maybe the movies... and Kai, I watch that dubbed anyway so It shouldn't be a problem.

Goku100xKamehameha · Post by **Goku100xKamehameha** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:00 am

Big Momma wrote:I was actually talking about the FUNi single of "Path to Power", as I was watching that when I posted that. My TV has a setting to stretch the picture to widescreen.

Is your TV is a 4:3 TV or 16:9 TV?

nathantheguitarist wrote:My point is, anyone want to give their TV to me if they're just going to be stupid with it?

Like you would do anything better with it

nathantheguitarist · Post by **nathantheguitarist** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:07 am

4:3 tv's don't really have an option to stretch picture. At least CRT ones anyways. Those weird newer ones I'm not sure about, usually any stretching is done from whatever device your playing stuff from.

And... I wouldn't use an hdtv for it's proper intent and purpose? Is that trying to be an insult or do you really think it's hard to use a tv properly? My brother owns one and I had to show him how to push one button to switch display modes, because he was watching stuff in the wrong aspect ratio and had his PS3 hooked up by composite cables. If anything, I'd be using one for damn near everything they can do.

So yes, I'd be doing a lot better with one. What's your angle? lol

Rod · Post by **Rod** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:06 pm

You know what we should all do? We should get the Philips Cinema 21:9 TV to give Dragon Ball a true cinema feel it was meant to be seen with

Puto · Post by **Puto** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:08 pm

nathantheguitarist wrote:4:3 tv's don't really have an option to stretch picture. At least CRT ones anyways.

My mom's CRT TV has an option to squish a 4:3 broadcast into 16:9, or to stretch a (presumably hard-bordered) 16:9-in-a-4:3-signal broadcast into 4:3. It's useful when stations broadcast stuff in the wrong aspect ratio.

Taku128 · Post by **Taku128** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:16 pm

Obviously, this is the only way to watch Kai.

Look at how cinematic it is!

nathantheguitarist · Post by **nathantheguitarist** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:18 pm

Puto wrote:
nathantheguitarist wrote:4:3 tv's don't really have an option to stretch picture. At least CRT ones anyways.
My mom's CRT TV has an option to squish a 4:3 broadcast into 16:9, or to stretch a (presumably hard-bordered) 16:9-in-a-4:3-signal broadcast into 4:3. It's useful when stations broadcast stuff in the wrong aspect ratio.

That's pretty cool. I didn't know that they actually made them like that. Now I'm curious, what brand and model is it, do you know?

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:22 pm

Taku128 wrote:Look at how cinematic it is!

I feel like I'm really there.

Big Momma · Post by **Big Momma** » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:17 am

Taku128 wrote:Obviously, this is the only way to watch Kai.

Look at how cinematic it is!

I think you're being sarcastic...

And even I think THAT much is ridiculous. I don't even like that on Pixar films.

Goku100xKamehameha · Post by **Goku100xKamehameha** » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:54 am

Big Momma wrote:
Taku128 wrote:Obviously, this is the only way to watch Kai.

Look at how cinematic it is!
I think you're being sarcastic...

Isn't it obvious?

Big Momma wrote: And even I think THAT much is ridiculous. I don't even like that on Pixar films.

I don't like that on ANY film.

Gaffer Tape · Post by **Gaffer Tape** » Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:06 am

Yeah. Why specifically mention Pixar films?

Big Momma · Post by **Big Momma** » Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:17 am

Gaffer Tape wrote:Yeah. Why specifically mention Pixar films?

Sorry, I should have been more specific. I'm not sure about DVD/BD releases, but whenever Pixar films air on NBC or a network station, that's literally about how big the bars are on the top/bottom.

Post by **VegettoEX** » Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:58 am

Well, that's likely because their original aspect ratio is 2.35:1, which is not the same as a standard 16:9 television screen, which in turn means that it needs pillar bars at the top and bottom to fit... which in turn means that on a 4:3 display, yes, those pillar bars will seem "big"... but you're still seeing the entire picture.

Gaffer Tape · Post by **Gaffer Tape** » Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:33 pm

Still, though, the above joke pic is MUCH wider than 2.35:1. Haha, in fact, it looks like it's at least 4:1!

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