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Re: "Raging Blast 2" Pre-Release Discussion

Post by Vegeta's Wire » Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:03 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:OK, I'm not sure you people understand the concept of a "what-if" character if you're agruing what WOULD or would not happen[although in this care there's no proof either way.] The POINT of it being a what-if would be to see something different.
Although I'm in favor of what DNA said, your "no proof" argument is true. I just hope that the next "what-if characters" are not just a SSJ transformation for any existing character. Even though I really like the idea of a SSJ Burdock, it's not that "original", if you know what I mean...
PS: I absolutely liked Cellin from Budokai 1 just because it was something that I never thought about something like that (but I imagine that many did)...
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:00 pm

Vegeta's Wire wrote: Although I'm in favor of what DNA said, your "no proof" argument is true. I just hope that the next "what-if characters" are not just a SSJ transformation for any existing character. Even though I really like the idea of a SSJ Burdock, it's not that "original", if you know what I mean...
PS: I absolutely liked Cellin from Budokai 1 just because it was something that I never thought about something like that (but I imagine that many did)...
As cool as he may have been, by your own idea of how Cell works for absorption, the form would be impossible outside a dream like in Budokai 1. =P

If we really do get what-ifs for the game, I'm not sure what I would really want. My preferred "what-ifs", if you could even call them that, would be two entirely new characters inspired by Toriyama's art style. One hero and one villain, no transformations, but I know how unlikely that is. All I know is that I don't want more transformations for characters beyond what they already have achieved. I don't want anyone else to get Super Saiyan/2/3, I don't want Freeza to have a 5th form, etc. I'm not sure exactly what that leaves though...maybe a re-imagining of an existing character or form.
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Re: "Raging Blast 2" Pre-Release Discussion

Post by mysticboy » Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:02 pm

goku the krump dancer wrote:While it didn't do anything to the game play, I do hope they bring taunts back. They're like a spice that I need for when I play out my own stories in vs mode.
Agreed. There was absolutely no reason for them not to be in Raging Blast.

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Post by DNA » Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:33 pm

I'm not a big fan of illogical what-ifs like Cellin. Although the fact that I love Piririn makes my previous statement a bit hypocritical.

I would much rather have something that would make sense, kinda like a Buu absorption or Vegetto Super Saiyan 3. I know it's not new, but it at least makes sense.

I would like to have something new though, but I don't really know what.

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Post by InfernalVegito » Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:30 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:Because it's not needed or logical. If Gohan could go SS2 and beat Cell, why would he ever need SS3? That would make Goku's SS3 less dramatic and awesome. If Gohan went SS3 against Cell, that would undershadow the rest of the entire series.

I'd rather see a 5th form Freeza or Cell absorbing #18 first.
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Post by LeprikanGT » Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:35 pm

Why would Vegito need to go SS3? He was doing just fine beating Buu...as a candy no less.

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Post by DNA » Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:45 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:Why would Vegito need to go SS3? He was doing just fine beating Buu...as a candy no less.
Well... err... Dude, what is wrong with you? Seriously.

Why would Vegetto go SS3 against Buu? Of course there's no need. But we have a Goku SS3 and Vegeta SS3, it's only logical. If Vegetto was still around in later GT, he would most probably need to go SS3 to beat Omega Shenron for example.

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Post by AgitoZ » Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:52 pm

DNA wrote:
LeprikanGT wrote:Why would Vegito need to go SS3? He was doing just fine beating Buu...as a candy no less.
Well... err... Dude, what is wrong with you? Seriously.

Why would Vegetto go SS3 against Buu? Of course there's no need. But we have a Goku SS3 and Vegeta SS3, it's only logical. If Vegetto was still around in later GT, he would most probably need to go SS3 to beat Omega Shenron for example.
Well although he's already gone to SSJ4, they might as well make a Gogeta SSJ3. Sure there's no need for it and it makes no sense but it's not like they've been unoriginal before.

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Post by InfernalVegito » Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:54 pm

I just think that you take this way too serious. Wouldn't it be cool if they just put SS3 Teen Gohan or SS3 Vegetto (which would also make sense because we have Goku and Vegeta SS3 now) into the game just for the fun of it? I don't really care if it's a necessity or if it is logical to have them according to the series. It would just be fun.
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Post by hulkty » Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:56 pm

Actually I like the idea of ssj3 vegito, plus he has more fan arts and was in dragonball multiverse

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Post by LeprikanGT » Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:58 pm

Does no one but me want new and original ideas for what-ifs? Everyone else seems to be like "zomg!!1! we need more Super Saiyan 3's!!1!!".

I would like to see something come out of left field that no one would expect for them to do.

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Post by InfernalVegito » Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:01 pm

Sure I also want new, original and unexpected stuff. But if they can't do it I am happy with another SS3 form whoever it might be. That's why I said at least something.
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Re: "Raging Blast 2" Pre-Release Discussion

Post by AgitoZ » Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:03 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:Does no one but me want new and original ideas for what-ifs? Everyone else seems to be like "zomg!!1! we need more Super Saiyan 3's!!1!!".

I would like to see something come out of left field that no one would expect for them to do.
I too would like something that's not just another SSJ. If more pop up it makes all the others less special.

The only problem is you're giving the game developers too much credit. I don't think they are that original.
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Post by LeprikanGT » Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:21 pm

That what I want though, I think we deserve something besides them tossing longer hair or golden hair onto someone.

The Frieza thing being an example of that. Cooler had a 5th form so it would make sense if Frieza hadn't died that he would have done [whatever] to reach that level as well not to be out done by his brother.

In RB1... I could see how Broly could go SS3 and with vegeta's pride of course he made it and he also needed to beat Broly. Super Saiyan 3 [either fusion] would just be tossed in there for funsies since there wouldn't be anyone to fight on their level.

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Post by goku the krump dancer » Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:35 pm

I know a lot of people want a completely original character ( mostly a villian) but havent the Z fighters done it all? I mean in terms of enemies they fought just about every type of bad guy out there, so I really dont know how much more original the developers can get.
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Post by LeprikanGT » Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:42 pm

They did great with adding the OVA and I'm sure the Jump special would be in at some point, that's 3 more villans right there.

For originality, they need to pulla nother 'Tree of Might' w/out the tree.
Have a new villian show up with 2 or 3 henchmen and have it like a new movie, but just have the new characters. [possibly after the Jump special but before GT, so Uub has time to do something besides a bit of fighting at the end of Z]

They would definitely need new character designs though, Add someone with 4 arms or something that doesnt look too humanoid.

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Post by DNA » Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:13 pm

I honestly don't know... I mean, since the start of the series, Goku and company defeated:
- his own master
- the world's best assassin
- a whole evil army
- the strongest fighter on earth at the time
- his own dead grandfather
- the strongest demon being that ever existed on earth
- the demon's son.
- his own brother
- the strongest of his own race
- the strongest being on the universe
- a mixed clone of the strongest beings in the universe
- the strongest Super Saiyan
- the strongest being in the afterlife
- the strongest being that ever existed in the history of the universe
- the strongest artificial human

Then you can look at it from another point of view, they've done:
- martial artists
- assassins
- monsters
- demons
- family
- aliens
- alien demons
- evil Saiyan
- evil Namek
- artificial humans
- Freeza's family
- Freeza and Coola reconstructed
- a legendary Saiyan
- a machine built to destroy all Saiyans
- a shapeshifter (granted he never had a movie)
- a race similar to the Saiyans
- a fucked up clone of the legendary Saiyan like an old school horror sci-fi
- an evil mystical creature
- the embodiment of all evil
- a stone statue god of evil
- a sort of paste like virus
- the strongest kind of artificial human
- the Dragon Balls as enemies

The only thing that could be slightly original would be Evil Goku, unfortunately, I can't possibly think of anything that would feel "new" instead of feeling like "just another guy".

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Post by LeprikanGT » Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:20 pm

Total fanfin moment [Although I try to stear well clear of them] I always thought it would be interesting if the Yardrats got some of Goku's DNA and created one of him since they saw how strong he was and then DNA Goku found out where he came from and all then and pulled a 'I'm the stronger one' type of situation.

As for something completely new, yes they have fought a ton of villians but we could still have room for one more if they were going to add to the series, I'm all for it. They have added completely new people to games before [the OVA] I wouldn't mind them having another go at it.

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Post by Makaioshin » Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:22 pm

They could use Miira and Towa. :D

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Post by Rocketman » Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:32 pm

DNA wrote:The only thing that could be slightly original would be Evil Goku
Tullece is already confirmed.

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