"Raging Blast 2" Gigantic On-Going Gaming Discussion

[mysticboy]

What are the 6 characters?

Hatchiyack
14
15
Dore
Niez
Tarble

[Goten Forever]

What are the 6 characters?

Hatchiyack
14
15
Dore
Niez
Tarble

Like I said, the characters nobody wants. Why dont they malke character creation like in DBO?

[Jaruka]

Anyone else find it funny that Dragonball wikia are trying to claim Doore and Neiz are returning characters? The logic behind this seems to be that they appeared as an attack for Cooler in Supersonic Warriors 2 and because of that they aren't new characters

I want those characters and Mito said that the Japanese fans wouldn't like a character creator, hence why they haven't done it. He did give it a 'maybe' though.

[Goku100xKamehameha]

Why dont they malke character creation like in DBO?

NO. Just NO.

[DNA]

I'm sorry, I just can't agree about Bio Broly, the movie is not even that bad, it's just.. different. It has Mr. Satan development, no Goku, and it's more like an really old school sci-fi monster movie. Also, Bio Broly has different moves. You can't just ditch that out because you don't like the character. If you have doubts on that, go re watch the movie and check his moves out. You'll see.

Like I said, the characters nobody wants. Why dont they malke character creation like in DBO?

By nobody you mean yourself. I want those characters, I'm really happy that they're in. Even if the feature wasn't included, those characters have made me buy the game. I've been wanting all of them except for Tarble, who is a really big surprise for me and I can't wait to play as him.

I just don't want a character creation, it would take away space on the disc which can be used for better, more productive things.

[dragonballzgtfighter]

Least we know that RB3 will likely have more henchmen than main characters. But they might have DB and GT.

[LeprikanGT]

I'm very very sorry, but I wouldn't accept Bio Broly has a costume, first because that makes as much sense as having Cyber Freeza or Meta Coola as costumes, or even Majin Vegeta, second because he actually has different moves, from the top of my head, I know he has Eye Beams, which Broly, or any other Saiyan, ever had.

Metal Cooler had his own movie, he shouldn't be just a costume. Bio Broly has eye beams, a beam from the red spots on his chest, any number of melee rushes and few different green ki blasts.

@ thedevilscorpse: why do you dismis every henchman? They are a part of the movies and should be included. I LOVE the movie 4 henchman becuase half of them have very different character models than just 'average height w/ two ares and two legs'. The next game SHOULD include giants so we could finish off the movies, but not go as overboard as to give every single saiyan an oozaru form; just those who did so in the show.

@dragonballzgtfighter : there are way too many Z people missing to include then in another game AND GT people. I really don't see GT being in the next game since it is not a big thing in japan.

[Wobbuffet]

Like I said, the characters nobody wants. Why dont they malke character creation like in DBO?

So I must be a Nowhere Man, since I wanted Tarble and Hatchyack, and really don't care for a CC, since it would slow down online fights and create a lot of "SSJ6 Broly", "Gogetenks" and "SSJ John Due". It would useful only to make a Piccolo Daimaoh, but hey, they should put him in the game already.

[mysticboy]

Here's a thought: Maybe RB3 will have 2vs2 like Tag Vs.

[InfernalVegito]

Least we know that RB3 will likely have more henchmen than main characters. But they might have DB and GT.

They better put in DB and GT for crying out loud. They already said it would be in RB2 and then Ryo fucking dropped it for whichever ludicrous reasons. I hope RB3 will be a complete DB/Z/GT game finally with ALL important characters in HD.

[Jaruka]

Least we know that RB3 will likely have more henchmen than main characters. But they might have DB and GT.

They better put in DB and GT for crying out loud. They already said it would be in RB2 and then Ryo fucking dropped it for whichever ludicrous reasons. I hope RB3 will be a complete DB/Z/GT game finally with ALL important characters in HD.

Really?

Part of me hopes they just complete complete Z and release it as 'Dragonball: Raging Blast 3' and then do a GT game that could still act as an add-on set (much like RB2 is to RB1) and just call it 'Dragonball GT: Raging Blast' or something along those lines.

So we get a complete Z with a complete GT. I'm not too bothered about Dragonball though because it doesn't fit that well into the 'Spike' format.

[LeprikanGT]

What are the 6 characters?

Hatchiyack
14
15
Dore
Niez
Tarble

Like I said, the characters nobody wants. Why dont they malke character creation like in DBO?

DO some research about the country making the games you play. Japanese fans do NOT like create-a-character, so they will never include it in a game.

Least we know that RB3 will likely have more henchmen than main characters. But they might have DB and GT.

They better put in DB and GT for crying out loud. They already said it would be in RB2 and then Ryo fucking dropped it for whichever ludicrous reasons. I hope RB3 will be a complete DB/Z/GT game finally with ALL important characters in HD.

Repeat of the above statement, but Japanese fans don't care for GT, so they don't see it as something to include.

@Jaruka: My thoughts exactly; I WOULD buy a GT only game. Although there ARE enough characters for a game on its own, I do not think people would like the fact that all the GT only people would not be included.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

I'm sorry, I just can't agree about Bio Broly, the movie is not even that bad, it's just.. different. It has Mr. Satan development, no Goku, and it's more like an really old school sci-fi monster movie. Also, Bio Broly has different moves. You can't just ditch that out because you don't like the character. If you have doubts on that, go re watch the movie and check his moves out. You'll see.

I did watch that movie as part of my fan project, and aside from his goop absorbing stuff, only two moves are new. They don't have names in the movie, but I named them Blaster Ray (eye beams) and Blaster Pulse just for me to know what I'm talking about. His method of fighting is still the same unrefined version the original the Broli uses, and the rest of his attacks are just slight variations on moves he already used in movies 8 and 10. Knowing Spike, if he were included, they would literally just take the frame for LSS Broli and reskin him into "Bio Broli" he'd have the same moves, except maybe the two new ones, possibly a QTE rush, and and some sort of ultimate that might be new. MAYBE. But since RB2 allows for move customization and apparently multiple Ultimates for certain characters at least, Bio Broli could easily be a costume and for LSS and just allow him multiple Ultimates. (SS Vegeta SHOULD have both the Big Bang Attack as an ultimate as well as the blye Final Flash we saw him get from PtEtSS. Replacing the Big Bang Attack would make SS, SSg2, and SS2 all clones of each other since they would all have the Final Flash otherwise.)

The movie isn't bad because it is different, it is bad because it is bad. Though everything has some sort of redeeming quality, an actual movie without Goku is nice, as is a little Mr. Satan growth. But Bio Broli himself was a mediocre character and the movie had a bad plot overall. Even your example of an old sci-fi monster film doesn't help, as most of those movies are cases of "so bad that it is good" syndrome. I'm not a Broli fanboy, but i do enjoy him on occasion as long as he isn't whored out everywhere as the most awesome thing ever. Movie 11 just doesn't deliver IMO.

@ thedevilscorpse: why do you dismis every henchman? They are a part of the movies and should be included. I LOVE the movie 4 henchman becuase half of them have very different character models than just 'average height w/ two ares and two legs'. The next game SHOULD include giants so we could finish off the movies, but not go as overboard as to give every single saiyan an oozaru form; just those who did so in the show.

Spike doesn't want giants because of balance issues. We won't see them, get over it. lol and I'm not answering you on the henchmen question, as I've literally explained myself to you like 12 times before and I'm not wasting my time to repeat my self. We have main characters that still need to be in RB3, and they should take priority over everyone else.

I don't see why everyone wants to fight as Kakao when we still don't have characters like Mr. Satan, Majin Buu (Pure Evil), Garlic Jr., Lord Slug, or Uub.

They better put in DB and GT for crying out loud. They already said it would be in RB2 and then Ryo fucking dropped it for whichever ludicrous reasons. I hope RB3 will be a complete DB/Z/GT game finally with ALL important characters in HD.

GT needs to stay out until Z is finished, then they can focus just on GT instead of halfassing everything. GT needs about 40 characters to be done justice, and even if they add 40 characters in RB3, how do you want to split it up? 10 DB, 10 DBZ, and 20 GT? We'd get next to nothing accomplished. I'm REALLY hoping Raging Blast goes for 4 games instead of a trilogy. Finish Z in RB3 and do all of GT for RB4.

Not to mention DB should stay out entirely and and Dimps should work on a traditional fighter for the series. I'd love a Budokai-esque 2D DB fighter.

[Jaruka]

@Jaruka: My thoughts exactly; I WOULD buy a GT only game. Although there ARE enough characters for a game on its own, I do not think people would like the fact that all the GT only people would not be included.

Yeah, that's the bit that throws me off. Mito seems to really want to cater to the Japanese fan-base, the fact they basically completed Coola and Freeza's squads is proof of that. The interview with him coupled by their additions makes me doubtful we'll see GT in RB3, I always had kinda assumed they ignored GT in the second game so they could go all out for the third and actually give us a GT game... I mean who has honestly cared enough about GT? I think Infinite World was the best effort at incorporating GT and I do worry it's the best we'll actually see.

[LeprikanGT]

Japan hates GT and loves the Frieza/Namek stuff. That's why BT3 had just about every fighter from then except 'Namakian Warrior'.

[dragonballzgtfighter]

So we get a complete Z with a complete GT. I'm not too bothered about Dragonball though because it doesn't fit that well into the 'Spike' format.

I hear what you are saying. Perhaps it is because the characters in DB are small and are more combat based and less fying and ki use.

I'm REALLY hoping Raging Blast goes for 4 games instead of a trilogy. Finish Z in RB3 and do all of GT for RB4.

As far as I can remember I don't think the developers ever made a fourth game in a series. Budokai went to a trilogy but Infinite World was like the "fourth" in the "series" Then they made Burst Limit which I thought was going to have BL 2. Perhaps Namco Bandai were not happy with Dimps during the period PS2 to PS3.

Budokai Tenkaichi went to a trilogy now we have RB2

[LeprikanGT]

I'd go as far as to say IW was Budokai 3.5, they didn't go fully into making another game, they piggy backed off of 3 and the all the new characters had broken ultimates.

If they do make a GT game, they would probably name it something different. I'd buy a game called DragonBall Grand Tour.

[dragonballzgtfighter]

The problem with a GT only game is that the ratio of Heroes and Villains is not that great.

Plus some player may want a Z character vs. GT character.

[LeprikanGT]

The problem with a GT only game is that the ratio of Heroes and Villains is not that great.

Plus some player may want a Z character vs. GT character.

Exactly. You'd lose all the movie villians, half the Z fighters, and there were WAY more villians that heroes, agreed on that one.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

As far as I can remember I don't think the developers ever made a fourth game in a series. Budokai went to a trilogy but Infinite World was like the "fourth" in the "series" Then they made Burst Limit which I thought was going to have BL 2. Perhaps Namco Bandai were not happy with Dimps during the period PS2 to PS3.

Budokai Tenkaichi went to a trilogy now we have RB2

I'm well aware of what has been done, I'm just hoping tradition is broken. I don't care if they rename the series after 3 games, but I don't want to start from scratch again. It gets annoying. it's like Spike is giving me $5 and then $10, and then $15 and I'm like "Sweet! $30!". Then they say they'll give you more money, but they take it all away and start off by giving me $5 again...WTF?

Just take RB3, rename it and do everything you were going to do anyway, but leave my fighters alone. I don't like being given Coola or Future Gohan, having them taken away, and then have them returned to me with an "OMG, U getys to play as Futur Gohans! Isn't that awesome sauces?!". Using the rest of Z and GT, they could probably reach a 5th game without using a lot of the pointless characters...but with Spike, they would botch that up anyway anyway. There is just no need for a separate game, just rebrand and remarket.

All in all, Infinite World was pretty similar to the kind of approach, but with a pretty poor execution. It was kinda of like Budokai 3 v2, it took away both good and bad things, and then added both good and bad things...though should just take away ther bad and add the good. xD