"Raging Blast 2" Gigantic On-Going Gaming Discussion

[LeprikanGT]

They have had ample time if they were goig to make a BL2. yet Rb2 is getting ALL sorts of amazing treeatment with new characters and a complete re-animation of an OVA.

[InfernalVegito]

I must say the argument for GT's absence in the games that "Japan hates GT" is one of the most retarded and self-centered arguments I've ever heard. The game is not for Japan only. The game is for everyone in the world and EVEN IF the majority hates or dislikes GT, there are STILL people that like it so there is absolutely no reason at all to not include it just because "Japan hates GT". If they hate it so much they don't have to play with the GT characters or anything related to it in the game. But to completely put GT out of the game because of this is ridiculous because no single being forces the Japanese players to play with them in the game. They can leave them aside if they "hate it so much".

And yeah I really hope they finally get to create a COMPLETE game. I know perfection is impossible because there will be ALWAYS people that complain but damn at least put ALL important characters in from DB/Z/GT to at least give the players the choice with whom to play.

[Makaioshin]

Better game? If it's better, why didn't they continue it instead of making RB?

Some people say it's because the company hasn't had the time. To which I reply: "bullshit, it's been over two years".

Doesn't change the fact that it was more successful than the first Raging Blast.

They have had ample time if they were goig to make a BL2. yet Rb2 is getting ALL sorts of amazing treeatment with new characters and a complete re-animation of an OVA.

New characters hardly counts as special treatment in a fighting game.
The animation definitely is, it will help the game (hopefully) sell a lot better.

[LeprikanGT]

[quote="InfernalVegito"]I must say the argument for GT's absence in the games that "Japan hates GT" is one of the most retarded and self-centered arguments I've ever heard. quote]

That was an actual developer's quote in an interview, not me just spouting stuff to hear myself talk.

And yes, not only the Japanese play the game, but thats who they are making it for and other countries happen to pick it up and import it. If they have another aspect of the game that if far more popular, like adding more Z people and not GT people, why would they NOT go that route?

@Makaioshin: It may have made more money, yes but more successful? NO, becasue Raging Blast has a sequel, and Burst Limit does not.

[InfernalVegito]

If they have another aspect of the game that if far more popular, like adding more Z people and not GT people, why would they NOT go that route?

They can go any route they want. I am just saying that it's quite disappointing because by this way they are disregarding a lot of people who happen to like GT and perhaps also want it in HD.
Just saying..I don't think that's a good thing what they do. I hope GT makes it in RB3, though.

[LeprikanGT]

If they have another aspect of the game that if far more popular, like adding more Z people and not GT people, why would they NOT go that route?

They can go any route they want. I am just saying that it's quite disappointing because by this way they are disregarding a lot of people who happen to like GT and perhaps also want it in HD.
Just saying..I don't think that's a good thing what they do. I hope GT makes it in RB3, though.

It's a Z game though, not a GT game. I could see them easily being able to add 20-30 semi main/relevant characters without even touching GT yet.

[InfernalVegito]

It's a Z game though, not a GT game..

My point is that it could be both if they listened to the fans. It would be better overall, thus leaving more fans satisfied.

[LeprikanGT]

It's a Z game though, not a GT game..

My point is that it could be both if they listened to the fans. It would be better overall, thus leaving more fans satisfied.

The Japanese are making the games for the Japanese. I doubt any Japanese, or not many, ARE asking for that.

[Wobbuffet]

This may sound a little off-topic, but I've just noticed that Miracle Battle Cardass don't have any GT-related card, even though there are movie-related and early dragonball-related cards, like Android 15 and Tambourine.
The Japanese must really dislike GT, or think of it like something aside the series.

[Innagadadavida]

GT blows chunks. Its best we lay that series to rest.

[InfernalVegito]

Well in the end they are not only making it for the Japanese after all. The game is sold worldwide and the producers are clearly aware of that. I don't see the sense. They can't just focus on their Japanese fans if they know that everyone in the world gets to play the game. It's like disregarding the rest of the world, and YES I know GT fans are the minority but that does not change the fact that they're being ignored even if the producers are making the game for Japan at first sight. They would make a big loss if they only made games for Japan and that's the point. Although we pay for the games because we clearly want them, they ignore us although they are aware of the fact that we also get to play the game and not only Japan.

[LeprikanGT]

Well in the end they are not only making it for the Japanese after all. The game is sold worldwide and the producers are clearly aware of that. I don't see the sense. They can't just focus on their Japanese fans if they know that everyone in the world gets to play the game. It's like disregarding the rest of the world, and YES I know GT fans are the minority but that does not change the fact that they're being ignored even if the producers are making the game for Japan at first sight. They would make a big loss if they only made games for Japan and that's the point. Although we pay for the games because we clearly want them, they ignore us although they are aware of the fact that we also get to play the game and not only Japan.

From a business standpoint, they are going with the popular vote...and the popular vote will always make them the most money. I wouldn't mind Gt in the game; but I'd rather them complete Z first.

[Wobbuffet]

Well in the end they are not only making it for the Japanese after all. The game is sold worldwide and the producers are clearly aware of that. I don't see the sense. They can't just focus on their Japanese fans if they know that everyone in the world gets to play the game. It's like disregarding the rest of the world, and YES I know GT fans are the minority but that does not change the fact that they're being ignored even if the producers are making the game for Japan at first sight. They would make a big loss if they only made games for Japan and that's the point. Although we pay for the games because we clearly want them, they ignore us although they are aware of the fact that we also get to play the game and not only Japan.

I understand your point, but the Japanese are making the game.
It's like wanting for Star Tropics characters on Smash Bros.

[InfernalVegito]

From a business standpoint, they are going with the popular vote...and the popular vote will always make them the most money. I wouldn't mind Gt in the game; but I'd rather them complete Z first.

I can agree on that with you. I just desperately want a game which encompasses ALL characters. Even if that means to split it up. First having a good game that completes DBZ correctly and then hoping that they add GT in RB3. It's sad in my opinion.
A short while ago I also read an interview with Ryo Mito where he says that if fans demand GT he will consider including it in RB3 if he makes it. *crosses fingers*

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

Doesn't change the fact that it was more successful than the first Raging Blast.

True, but it wasn't successful enough for Dimps to rush out an make a sequel ASAP.

[LeprikanGT]

Doesn't change the fact that it was more successful than the first Raging Blast.

True, but it wasn't successful enough for Dimps to rush out an make a sequel ASAP.

If BL was more successful, it would have a sequel.

[Goku100xKamehameha]

Doesn't change the fact that it was more successful than the first Raging Blast.

True, but it wasn't successful enough for Dimps to rush out an make a sequel ASAP.

BL was successful in term of selling. But, It's still a bad game. Why BL was more successful in term of selling from RB?
1.BL was the first DB game in next-gen consoles.
2.BL had a lot more advertising than RB.

[Makaioshin]

Doesn't change the fact that it was more successful than the first Raging Blast.

True, but it wasn't successful enough for Dimps to rush out an make a sequel ASAP.

That's also true but by saying it "wasn't successful enough" you are agreeing with me that it didn't fail which is what LeprikhanGT said.

Doesn't change the fact that it was more successful than the first Raging Blast.

True, but it wasn't successful enough for Dimps to rush out an make a sequel ASAP.

If BL was more successful, it would have a sequel.

Having a sequel doesn't mean it was more successful. If you know the joke about Electric Boogaloo 2 you should know what I mean(not saying that is what Raging Blast 2 is).

Doesn't change the fact that it was more successful than the first Raging Blast.

True, but it wasn't successful enough for Dimps to rush out an make a sequel ASAP.

BL was successful in term of selling. But, It's still a bad game. Why BL was more successful in term of selling from RB?
1.BL was the first DB game in next-gen consoles.
2.BL had a lot more advertising than RB 2.

It was also received better by most of the major online video game critics, I believe, not that it really matters(not being sarcastic).

[LeprikanGT]

Critics aren't always the final decision on a games success. What I'm saying is out of the BL 'franchise' and the RB 'franchise' .... RB is doing far better, and to me that is more successful.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

That's also true but by saying it "wasn't successful enough" you are agreeing with me that it didn't fail which is what LeprikhanGT said.

I'm not saying it was a failure, it just wasn't a massive success.