What is the worst ever thing that happened to Dragonball?

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Re: What is the worst ever thing that happened to Dragonball?

Post by Savage68 » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:02 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:Also, Studio Cockpit never worked on GT, so Z wins by default in the animation category. :wink: Honestly though, I don't think GT ever looked nearly as good as any episodes done by Studio Cockpit.
Episode 36 of GT, for instance, trumps any art ever done by DBZ. And Studio Cockpit was only DBZ's #3 animation team in terms of quality, if you ask me.

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Re: What is the worst ever thing that happened to Dragonball?

Post by Perfect » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:04 pm

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Metalwario64 wrote:Also, Studio Cockpit never worked on GT, so Z wins by default in the animation category. :wink: Honestly though, I don't think GT ever looked nearly as good as any episodes done by Studio Cockpit.
Episode 36 of GT, for instance, trumps any art ever done by DBZ. And Studio Cockpit was only DBZ's #3 animation team in terms of quality, if you ask me.
I beg to differ.
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Re: What is the worst ever thing that happened to Dragonball?

Post by Savage68 » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:09 pm

Okay.

Did you want to expand on that...?

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Re: What is the worst ever thing that happened to Dragonball?

Post by Perfect » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:12 pm

Savage68 wrote:Okay.

Did you want to expand on that...?
I was hoping you'd expand on why you think Episode 36's artwork is superior first. I replied with a nearly identical amount of vagueness, so go on.
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Re: What is the worst ever thing that happened to Dragonball?

Post by Savage68 » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:26 pm

Perfect wrote:I was hoping you'd expand on why you think Episode 36's artwork is superior first.
That's cool, but my post was more aimed and Metalwario's, not yours. If you wanted to give a retort to one of my posts that was directed at someone else, I'd think that you would've brought something else to the table besides a "two wrongs make a right" mentality. And looking back, I can't find anyone going into extensive detail on why they think so-and-so is better / worse than so-and-so... I was just confused as to why someone would take the time to post "i beg to differ" without offering up anything that may give some insight as to why they beg to differ, or any examples that give their opinion some basis.

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Re: What is the worst ever thing that happened to Dragonball?

Post by Perfect » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:36 pm

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Perfect wrote:I was hoping you'd expand on why you think Episode 36's artwork is superior first.
That's cool, but my post was more aimed and Metalwario's, not yours. If you wanted to give a retort to one of my posts that was directed at someone else, I'd think that you would've brought something else to the table besides a "two wrongs make a right" mentality. And looking back, I can't find anyone going into extensive detail on why they think so-and-so is better / worse than so-and-so... I was just confused as to why someone would take the time to post "i beg to differ" without offering up anything that may give some insight as to why they beg to differ, or any examples that give their opinion some basis.
You're missing something here. On forums people respond to posts that aren't directed at them for various reasons. Hence an argument. It doesn't matter if it was aimed at his. I replied with a nearly equal amount of vagueness, hoping you'd take the hint and expand on why you think Episode 36's artwork is superior to anything in Z. Also, I'm not sure where you're getting this "two wrongs make a right mentally" stuff from, because you know, it's not math. Two rights don't make a wrong, two wrong don't make a right, unless by some odd turn of events in something of that nature would take place, however that is for sure not the case here. I gave about as much insight as you did, I'll gladly list episodes and reasons once you do, you know, because you did start the whole conflict with vague reasoning...No, next to none at all. Support your reasoning more often and this won't happen.
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Re: What is the worst ever thing that happened to Dragonball?

Post by Savage68 » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:44 pm

Skimming, skimming, skimming... :oops:
Perfect wrote:I'll gladly list episodes and reasons once you do
But I did list an episode. GT's Episode 36.

I only listed a single episode because we were discussing animation teams, and since it'd be silly to make a list of episodes with identical art/animation, only a single mention sufficed to get my (very light) point across.

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Re: What is the worst ever thing that happened to Dragonball?

Post by Perfect » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:47 pm

Savage68 wrote:Skimming, skimming, skimming... :oops:
Perfect wrote:I'll gladly list episodes and reasons once you do
But I did list an episode. GT's Episode 36.

I only listed a single episode because we were discussing animation teams, and since it'd be silly to make a list of episodes with identical art/animation, only a single mention sufficed to get my (very light) point across.
You misinterpreted my context. You didn't list any reasons for 36, I'll list episodes and reasons once you list reasons.
You're trying to create an argument based off a "plural" I put, meaning that I'd list multiple episodes to show there just so happens to be better quality episodes than GT #36.
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Re: What is the worst ever thing that happened to Dragonball?

Post by Savage68 » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:56 pm

Perfect wrote:You didn't list any reasons for 36, I'll list episodes and reasons once you list reasons.
:|

This is some...interesting logic you've got here. Doesn't it sorta make your initial comment (and by default, your entire reason for responding to me at all) worthless? I mean, you're holding me to a standard that I obviously had never made for myself, and then vilifying me for it, on top of that. I'm more confused than ever...

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Re: What is the worst ever thing that happened to Dragonball?

Post by Perfect » Sun Oct 03, 2010 7:00 pm

Savage68 wrote:
Perfect wrote:You didn't list any reasons for 36, I'll list episodes and reasons once you list reasons.
:|

This is some...interesting logic you've got here. Doesn't it sorta make your initial comment (and by default, your entire reason for responding to me at all) worthless? I mean, you're holding me to a standard that I obviously had never made for myself, and then vilifying me for it, on top of that. I'm more confused than ever...
You gave absolutely no reasoning to justify your comment. You're asking me to expand on mine, when you haven't expanded on yours. That was the whole point, justify your reasoning, and you won't have arguments like this. I'm holding you at a standard you never made? What? I'm holding you at the exact standard you've given, you know, the one where you make statements with no supported reasoning. I don't how any of this is confusing, given that everything is in plain context. Unless you've made the cliched mistake of over analyzing everything.
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Re: What is the worst ever thing that happened to Dragonball?

Post by Savage68 » Sun Oct 03, 2010 7:06 pm

Perfect wrote:You gave absolutely no reasoning to justify your comment.
I gave an example, though, which was the only thing I set out to do. Chill.

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Re: What is the worst ever thing that happened to Dragonball

Post by Perfect » Sun Oct 03, 2010 7:08 pm

Savage68 wrote:
Perfect wrote:You gave absolutely no reasoning to justify your comment.
I gave an example, though, which was the only thing I set out to do. Chill.
Uhm, an example? You just said GT#36, supplied with no reasoning as to why the artwork and or animation is of superior quality. I don't know why you're telling me to "chill", since I'm perfectly calm. Please refrain from making such ill mannered assumptions.
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Re: What is the worst ever thing that happened to Dragonball?

Post by Jaruka » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:36 pm

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Metalwario64 wrote:Also, Studio Cockpit never worked on GT, so Z wins by default in the animation category. :wink: Honestly though, I don't think GT ever looked nearly as good as any episodes done by Studio Cockpit.
Episode 36 of GT, for instance, trumps any art ever done by DBZ. And Studio Cockpit was only DBZ's #3 animation team in terms of quality, if you ask me.
Have you got any proof of this?
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Re: What is the worst ever thing that happened to Dragonball?

Post by Savage68 » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:43 pm

Any proof of WHAT? Let's not go down the same path that Perfect did...

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Re: What is the worst ever thing that happened to Dragonball?

Post by Perfect » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:46 pm

It seems I'm not the only one who has a problem with unjustified statements.
+1 yea
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Re: What is the worst ever thing that happened to Dragonball?

Post by Jaruka » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:49 pm

Savage68 wrote:Any proof of WHAT? Let's not go down the same path that Perfect did...
The same path?
You mean him posting perfectly reasonable questions and you replying in what could be taken either two ways as a) covering your own bullshit call or b) being to unintelligent to actually reply reasonably or understand why others need proof.

You've just gone out on a limb and claimed that a specific episode of a rather poorly animated series is far superior to that of a series that had some amazing but also terrible animation, all that's been asked for is you to elaborate, be reasonable and say why it's better, post proof of it being better, anything that would actually validate a response other than what you've apparently been getting

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I've also noted your immaturity as is highlighted by using Perfect's quote in your post, as if you somehow have the right to claim him to be wrong in the eyes of all who see your signature
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Re: What is the worst ever thing that happened to Dragonball?

Post by Savage68 » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:54 pm

Jaruka wrote:The same path?
You mean him...
No, I meant the 'getting angry over cartoons' part...

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Re: What is the worst ever thing that happened to Dragonball?

Post by Perfect » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:55 pm

Savage68 wrote:
Jaruka wrote:The same path?
You mean him...
No, I meant the 'getting angry over cartoons' part...
You must have an absolutely useless dictionary if you believe I was ever "angry". And here we go with the completely unjustifiable statements.
-Sigh.-
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Re: What is the worst ever thing that happened to Dragonball?

Post by Jaruka » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:59 pm

Savage68 wrote:
Jaruka wrote:The same path?
You mean him...
No, I meant the 'getting angry over cartoons' part...
Way to avoid my post, I'm chalking this up to 'covering his own ass' or as I like to call it: PWE - Posting Without Evidence.

Please in future make sure you have proof to back up your claims, it makes it easier to avoid discrepancies like this.
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Re: What is the worst ever thing that happened to Dragonball?

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:27 am

LeprikanGT wrote:Oh yeah....GT KILLS OFF Piccolo. No thank you to that; you just pull off a move that like.
Z killed him off for a while too. Besides, Piccolo died an extremely noble death.

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