Range of the Dragon Radar?

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Range of the Dragon Radar?

Post by LeprikanGT » Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:24 pm

How far does the range of the Dragon radar reach? I know it can searth the entire planet on Earth but when Bulma was using it on Namek wouldn't it have been the same one from Earth? [since she didn't know the Namekian dragonballs energy signal] So at what point would the Radar start picking up the namek ones and not the Earth ones?

Yeah it was Gt and all but they DID have a radar to reach around the universe, but if it could reach that far, wouldn't the radar have still been able to pick up the ones on namek from Earth?

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Re: Range of the Dragon Radar?

Post by the_abberration » Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:27 pm

It's a proximity radar geared to pick up the energy signal in relation to the closet planet with the balls at the time. Bulma would not need to make adjustments for the signal because in all cases the balls are created by Namekians.
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Re: Range of the Dragon Radar?

Post by Rocketman » Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:51 pm

Which raises the question of just what kind of radiation is powerful enough to be detected on the other side of a planet without being dangerous to touch?

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Post by Savage68 » Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:59 pm

Rocketman wrote:Which raises the question of just what kind of radiation is powerful enough to be detected on the other side of a planet without being dangerous to touch?
Magic radiation.

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Post by Perfect » Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:27 pm

For all we know, they got cancer several times, but their chi overwhelmed it.
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Perfect wrote:For all we know, they got cancer several times, but their chi overwhelmed it.
But not some stupid heart disease, no.
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Post by Perfect » Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:36 pm

Great Saiyaman I wrote:
Perfect wrote:For all we know, they got cancer several times, but their chi overwhelmed it.
But not some stupid heart disease, no.
The heart disease was created by Gero, it was accustomed to Goku's chi. Had someone such as the mighty Krillin obtained such a disease, nothing would happen.
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Post by caejones » Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:13 am

Rocketman wrote:Which raises the question of just what kind of radiation is powerful enough to be detected on the other side of a planet without being dangerous to touch?
Well, I know the whole "there be a planet in the way" issue isn't quite resolved by this... but we communicate with machines on Mars, and were picking up signals from probes way the fish farther out...
But I do get how the obstruction of the planet and its atmosphere could mess that up. Bah.
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Re: Range of the Dragon Radar?

Post by Puto » Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:58 am

This leads me to another question: After Freeza died and the Namek Dragon Balls were brought to Earth, did the radar pick up 14 balls at once? And when they hunted for the DBs (off-screen, after reviving Kuririn and Yamcha), did they end up running into the wrong DBs?
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Post by the_abberration » Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:11 am

Puto wrote:This leads me to another question: After Freeza died and the Namek Dragon Balls were brought to Earth, did the radar pick up 14 balls at once? And when they hunted for the DBs (off-screen, after reviving Kuririn and Yamcha), did they end up running into the wrong DBs?
The Namek balls do not disperse after use. They just turn to stone until they recharge.
Rocketman wrote:Which raises the question of just what kind of radiation is powerful enough to be detected on the other side of a planet without being dangerous to touch?
I always believed that the radation could not affect humans since organic material (i.e. meat suit) can obstruct the signal. Much how a lead suit blocks kryptonite radiation from affecting Superman for example.
caejones wrote:Well, I know the whole "there be a planet in the way" issue isn't quite resolved by this... but we communicate with machines on Mars, and were picking up signals from probes way the fish farther out...
But I do get how the obstruction of the planet and its atmosphere could mess that up. Bah.
I think it works like the scanners on Star Trek. It's not that the radar can sense a ball on Planet X from Earth, but can detect it once they are within range of another planet. I believe in GT, they just flew around until they got near a planet with a ball. It's been awhile, but did they ever detect a ball on a planet when they currently were on another?

Also (like ST) even when they encountered a planet they could not scan, they would somehow detect "a faint reading". And well Bulma's a genius as well as part wizard so go figure.
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Post by future_trunks » Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:36 am

the_abberration wrote:
Puto wrote:This leads me to another question: After Freeza died and the Namek Dragon Balls were brought to Earth, did the radar pick up 14 balls at once? And when they hunted for the DBs (off-screen, after reviving Kuririn and Yamcha), did they end up running into the wrong DBs?
The Namek balls do not disperse after use. They just turn to stone until they recharge.
But they would have to wouldn't they? Otherwise when they recharged they would just be sitting in the same place all together ready to go for whomever was around at the time.


Also, (GT ALERT) shouldn't the Black Star Dragonballs have been appearing on the radar in Kami's lookout? I mean I know it's GT and doesn't count. Just saying :wink:
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Post by the_abberration » Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:01 pm

future_trunks wrote:But they would have to wouldn't they? Otherwise when they recharged they would just be sitting in the same place all together ready to go for whomever was around at the time.


Not really. Cultural differences and goals of the creator come into play here. Kami states that the dragon balls make you prove yourself to get one miracle. Causing them to disperse after use was a way to make them harder to find. If someone wanted to make a wish, it was to be a lifelong journey of adventure and self discovery, since finding them would rely on luck or happenstance. In turn, it increases the legend and mystery surrounding them. This all goes to hell when Bulma, Pilaf, Red Ribbon, etc., all start using dragon radars.

The Namekians on the other hand, were more peaceful and ritualistic. Each village chief and Guru had a ball. If a Namekian wanted to make a wish (which was probably rare at best), they had to perform a series of tests to earn the ball from the respective chief. There would be no need to have them disperse, since the passing test(s) (and not the hunt) would be the goal of obtaining the ball. So after they turned to stone, they could have just taken them to Capsule Corp until they recharged.

I don't think the manga states this, but the anime (dub? maybe) either dirctly says or implies the ritual for Namekians, by having one of the Namekians tell Freeza. I seem to remeber Freeza requesting to take the tests to earn them. At which point he was told he was not worthy, or honorable, or something to that effect.
future_trunks wrote:Also, (GT ALERT) shouldn't the Black Star Dragonballs have been appearing on the radar in Kami's lookout? I mean I know it's GT and doesn't count. Just saying :wink:
I think that's how Pilaf found them in the first episode IIRC.
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Re: Range of the Dragon Radar?

Post by future_trunks » Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:02 pm

Ah I wasn't aware...I need to go through the Namek Saga again...it's been a long while.
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Re: Range of the Dragon Radar?

Post by Rocketman » Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:52 pm

Puto wrote:This leads me to another question: After Freeza died and the Namek Dragon Balls were brought to Earth, did the radar pick up 14 balls at once? And when they hunted for the DBs (off-screen, after reviving Kuririn and Yamcha), did they end up running into the wrong DBs?
Earth's DBs were used to revive everybody killed by Freeza, so they turned to stone for 365 days. The Namekians leave Earth 260 days after the deal with Freeza.
I always believed that the radation could not affect humans since organic material (i.e. meat suit) can obstruct the signal.
If organic material blocks the radiation, that means the radioactive particles are stopping inside the skin. Even if humans are large enough that their internal organs are safe, the DBs should be surrounded by dead mice, squirrels and other small animals. Also skin cancer.

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Post by Dayspring » Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:19 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Puto wrote:This leads me to another question: After Freeza died and the Namek Dragon Balls were brought to Earth, did the radar pick up 14 balls at once? And when they hunted for the DBs (off-screen, after reviving Kuririn and Yamcha), did they end up running into the wrong DBs?
Earth's DBs were used to revive everybody killed by Freeza, so they turned to stone for 365 days. The Namekians leave Earth 260 days after the deal with Freeza.
No they didn't. They left 520 days after Freeza. The first 3 wishes were transfer Krillin's soul to Earth, bring back Krillin, bring back Yamcha. 260 days later were bring back Chaozu, bring back Tenshinhan, transfer Namekkians to New Namek. So the Earth DBs were back to normal prior to the second set of wishes being made.
I always believed that the radation could not affect humans since organic material (i.e. meat suit) can obstruct the signal.
If organic material blocks the radiation, that means the radioactive particles are stopping inside the skin. Even if humans are large enough that their internal organs are safe, the DBs should be surrounded by dead mice, squirrels and other small animals. Also skin cancer.
Well... those DBs not found near a human were coincidentally never around living creatures.

Meanwhile Kamesennin wore one around his neck and randomly stopped aging. :shock:
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Re: Range of the Dragon Radar?

Post by Rocketman » Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:29 pm

Dayspring wrote:No they didn't. They left 520 days after Freeza. The first 3 wishes were transfer Krillin's soul to Earth, bring back Krillin, bring back Yamcha. 260 days later were bring back Chaozu, bring back Tenshinhan, transfer Namekkians to New Namek. So the Earth DBs were back to normal prior to the second set of wishes being made.
The Namek DBs only take 130 days to recharge.

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Re: Range of the Dragon Radar?

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Rocketman wrote:If organic material blocks the radiation, that means the radioactive particles are stopping inside the skin. Even if humans are large enough that their internal organs are safe, the DBs should be surrounded by dead mice, squirrels and other small animals. Also skin cancer.
Does the radiation need to be that powerful? We can track a cellphone with GPS and cells don't put out that high a level of radiation (then again, I've never left one around small animals).
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Re: Range of the Dragon Radar?

Post by Rocketman » Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:38 pm

the_abberration wrote:Does the radiation need to be that powerful? We can track a cellphone with GPS and cells don't put out that high a level of radiation (then again, I've never left one around small animals).
GPS are satellites orbiting high above the Earth in line-of-sight with the phones.

The Dragon Radar detecting DBs across the world is like turning on a Geiger counter in New York and having it react to the nuclear missiles in Siberia.

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Post by the_abberration » Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:58 pm

Rocketman wrote:The Dragon Radar detecting DBs across the world is like turning on a Geiger counter in New York and having it react to the nuclear missiles in Siberia.
Bulma can fit cars, planes, and houses into a capsule, build ships capable of space travel, and repair alien technology. But the dragon radar detecting balls across a planet is a stretch unless the balls emit a large amount of raditaion? I got to disagree on that.
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