Discussion regarding the entirety of the franchise in a general (meta) sense, including such aspects as: production, trends, merchandise, fan culture, and more.
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by Domon » Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:59 pm
People can be like that, but really we all have our limits for oleer stuff, while I can put up with and really enjoy old 80s toons like He Man (get it on DVD now ) a lot of 70s toons raise my ire.
One thing though on the episodic versus arc driven shows, even episode driven stuff will occasionally throw a wrench in everything and change it all - examples in the afformentioned TNG include but are not limited to the ENTIRETY of the Boprg storylines - the 9ontroduction, the assimilation of Pocard., the one they saved, and even the storyarch with Lore involving them, to stuff as simple as Geordi
sa meeting the woman who designed the enterprise once as a hologram and later on its own. Even the Klignon storyarchs take unexpected turns as they went along. Episodic in nature does not necessarily mean no plot. Heck even oldschool He Man (sorry been on a complete and total high for it since the 10 best DVD came out) has ongoing plots even with an episodic nature and a toy company keeping them from doiung anything too deep they still managed to sneak in storylkine dynamics such as Teela's mother being the sorceress, and even how the Sorceress well...became the sorceress. Don't even get me started on the whole Horde/She Ra plot either.
While I too preffer storyarch driven plot, episodic plot can and does expand beyond its initial storylines.
^ Methinks laserkid should keep a closer eye on spelling...

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by laserkid » Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:18 pm
typoes and me aren't friends - nevertheless I'll fix that post. ^^;
...and done - got even a few you missed.
Aalthough I'm not sure the correct typing of Klignon so I left it as is

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by Domon » Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:02 pm
laserkid wrote:
Aalthough I'm not sure the correct typing of Klignon so I left it as is

It's Klingon.
Erm... *kicks this back on topic.*
Sad to say that there are some people out there that won't even try to understand why DBZ (or many other things) are beloved by many, but that's life.
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by laserkid » Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:14 am
Indeed, you can't even get me to spell Klingons right
Seriously however those people really aren't worth worrying about - if they aren;t going to respect your likes and dislikes you don't really need to give them worry for it either.
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by Bejiita » Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:49 am
Adnan wrote:Sun_Wukong wrote:Wow, they must be a complete moron. Understanding a series's plot by watching one episode? You cant even do that with most American tv. -_-
Not all the time. A lot of US cartoons (and shows in general) follow the intro-plot-conclusion structure within the same episode. In other words, as the episode begins a new villain is introduced and by the end of the episode he's defeated. The next episode has no connection whatsoever with the previous one (unless it's a two-parter). So even if you watch an episode at random it doesn't really make a difference. The downside to this though is that there's very little character development throughout the series because they keep jumping from one short story to the next.
In DBZ on the other hand, you have dozens of episodes forming one big arc so if you just watch an episode at random you won't be able to fully appreciate it.. It's like picking up a book and starting to read it from the middle.
Yes, quite a lot of my friends who knew nothing of DBZ were shocked when they found out the next episode's all link up, so all the episodes are like a whole big film.
Something like the Simpsons can mantain the plot style and still get viewers because of it's worldwide popularity, and the fact that the show has been running for years.
If you began watching DBZ during the Cell games saga, before they go to fight him during the ten days, then DBZ would seem like a Simpsons style cartoon, but you could begin watching at the Namek saga and think the show is some crazy programme with green men and aliens and not have the faintest idea of what is going on.