Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" Dub Turns 16; Still Unreleased

[Taku128]

Maybe it's just a big joke that all of the English Gokus are collaborating on. Next time we hear about an alternate dub of Kai it'll be via the Big Green dub VA for Goku.

[Turtle Marked Stone]

If this does end up happening I'm pretty psyched up that we'll finally be able to preserve an Ocean Dub in its entirety as it comes out. Although I'm a tad frightened we're going to see an even larger divide of the fandom once we start getting the angry Funi Kai Vs. Ocean Kai arguments. (It's the new Dub Vs. Sub!)

[penguintruth]

I still don't see a particular need for an Ocean dub of Kai. Canada needs to get over that content rule and just air the Funimation dub.

Although, I'm a little excited at the prospect of a new English dub Goku.

It'll be a real bummer, though, if he's the best yet, but the dub uses replacement music and is edited to hell.

[Super Sayian Prime]

I still don't see a particular need for an Ocean dub of Kai. Canada needs to get over that content rule and just air the Funimation dub.

Eh, having a Canadian dub is an added bonus, it's not required to get the show on TV here. The original Fullmetal Alchemist was aired on YTV, and that was dubbed in Texas.

[Herms]

I think I remember reading in a Dragon Ball-specific issue of Animerica a long time ago where Toriyama had actually thought the whole concept of shouting attack names seemed silly due to the fact that the villains could easily just interrupt right as an attack name's being said or even a pose for it.

That's originally from his Daizenshuu 4 interview:

I actually don't really like to give names to the techniques. In a battle of life and death, there's no way you can say the name of each technique. You'd be done in while yelling the technique's name. (laughs) But my editor told me it was best to give the techniques names.

The Animerica issue you're thinking of took all the Toriyama interviews from the daizenshuu and combined them into one long article.

[Dark Vegeta-Sama]

Canada needs to get over that content rule and just air the Funimation dub.

Why?

Canadians were among the international audiences that did not respond positively to FUNimation's in-house voice cast.

[penguintruth]

Canada needs to get over that content rule and just air the Funimation dub.

Why?

Canadians were among the international audiences that did not respond positively to FUNimation's in-house voice cast.

I don't remember too much Canadian-specific bitching about the Funimation cast. That is to say, I didn't hear too much more bitching from Canadian audiences than I did from American audiences about the change. But that's just my experience.

Anyway, a good dub is a good dub, no matter where it comes from. I didn't like the DBZ dub, but I don't like the Kai dub just because it's American, but because it's pretty good.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

Canada needs to get over that content rule and just air the Funimation dub.

Why?

Canadians were among the international audiences that did not respond positively to FUNimation's in-house voice cast.

Most children everywhere didn't respond postively to the cast change at the time, because they were so used to the original cast. Kai is currently airing on TV for a new generation of children, who have probably never seen any Dragon Ball before.

[Puto]

Canada needs to get over that content rule and just air the Funimation dub.

Why?

Canadians were among the international audiences that did not respond positively to FUNimation's in-house voice cast.

Most children everywhere didn't respond postively to the cast change at the time, because they were so used to the original cast.

And because at the time (Season 3), the FUNimation in-house cast was utter garbage.

[b_boult]

This is........unexpected, to say the least. Suffice it to say however, I shall be watching this space - although perhaps not as intently as my 16 year-old 2002 self!

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

And because at the time (Season 3), the FUNimation in-house cast was utter garbage.

To older fans, yes. But to children, no. Kids don't give a shit about the quality of voice acting. I don't remember my nine-year-old self complaining about how stiff most of the cast sounded in Seasons 3 and 4.

[Dark Vegeta-Sama]

And because at the time (Season 3), the FUNimation in-house cast was utter garbage.

To older fans, yes. But to children, no. Kids don't give a shit about the quality of voice acting.

I think you'd be surprised. I was a kid at the time of season 3 and not only did I hate the voice recasts (and notice the huge drop in quality), a lot of my friends did as well.

In fact I specifically remember a few guys swearing off the show because of the drop in quality. Can't say I blame them, either. Season 3 was dreadful.

[linkdude20002001]

And because at the time (Season 3), the FUNimation in-house cast was utter garbage.

To older fans, yes. But to children, no. Kids don't give a shit about the quality of voice acting. I don't remember my nine-year-old self complaining about how stiff most of the cast sounded in Seasons 3 and 4.

When the voice changes took place, I was only nine, but still, I noticed the sudden shitty quality of season three. It wasn't because the voices were different (It had been almost a year since I'd heard them, so I didn't notice) - I simply thought the quality of the show went downhill.

Also, just last week, I was talking to my friend Kenny (he must've been...five?!...during the voice switch), and he was telling me how he stopped watching DBZ during season three because of the shitty quality, so he's never seen anything after Freeza. I'm thinking I should just have him borrow my Kai DVDs once I get part two.

[Mewzard]

Weird, I've never met any one in person who stopped watching due to the switch from Ocean to Funi. I was upset at first, but I was mainly upset due to a sudden change. Eventually I got over it, and the quality of the dub did increase over time, thankfully. Seeing this period getting redubbed in Kai is good, because, frankly, it really needed it, more than any other time of the series.

[penguintruth]

Hell, I didn't even stop watching the dub after discovering how superior the Japanese version was. But that's probably because I didn't have enough money to buy a bunch of third-gen VHS fansub copies.

Funimation voices and shit script aside, I came home from school well into my high school years and got through my homework as fast as I could to watch more DBZ on Toonami.

I eventually stopped when I lost interest in DBZ the first time (though I did watch some of the Ultimate Uncut dub aired on CN), but I've found it close to impossible to return to the dub now that I can watch it all in Japanese with subtitles on the Dragon Boxes. I don't even like checking the dub on the Dragon Boxes. It makes me feel like I'm soiling them.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

And because at the time (Season 3), the FUNimation in-house cast was utter garbage.

To older fans, yes. But to children, no. Kids don't give a shit about the quality of voice acting. I don't remember my nine-year-old self complaining about how stiff most of the cast sounded in Seasons 3 and 4.

When the voice changes took place, I was only nine, but still, I noticed the sudden shitty quality of season three. It wasn't because the voices were different (It had been almost a year since I'd heard them, so I didn't notice) - I simply thought the quality of the show went downhill.

Also, just last week, I was talking to my friend Kenny (he must've been...five?!...during the voice switch), and he was telling me how he stopped watching DBZ during season three because of the shitty quality, so he's never seen anything after Freeza. I'm thinking I should just have him borrow my Kai DVDs once I get part two.

Fair enough. I personally don't know anyone my age who complained about the voice acting (just the change in cast), but I guess I spoke too soon. My point is that everyone was pissed off at Season 3, for one reason or another. It wasn't just the Canadians. So why should they be the only ones to get their own, alternate dub? Australia switched from Ocean to FUNi too. I'd love an Australian dub; everyone would sound like Jeice.

[Dark Vegeta-Sama]

Fair enough. I personally don't know anyone my age who complained about the voice acting (just the change in cast), but I guess I spoke too soon. My point is that everyone was pissed off at Season 3, for one reason or another. It wasn't just the Canadians. So why should they be the only ones to get their own, alternate dub? Australia switched from Ocean to FUNi too. I'd love an Australian dub; everyone would sound like Jeice.

Because Canada is where the original cast is located, which is what international audiences demanded. Hence Canada, the United Kingdom, and parts of Europe got what they wanted (although actually, Canadians got the Ocean dub much later; the first 60 episodes of the Airwaves/Ocean dub never aired in Canada, even though they were produced there, which is rather unfortunate).

Australia doesn't get its own dub because for whatever reason, FUNimation holds the full distribution rights for the show in that country, and with that in mind, it probably wouldn't be cost effective for Australia to produce its own dub. The Canadian dub was a very low-budget product that probably only existed because of some legal loophole that other countries may not have.

[TheBlackPaladin]

Australia doesn't get its own dub because for whatever reason, FUNimation holds the full distribution rights for the show in that country, and with that in mind, it probably wouldn't be cost effective for Australia to produce its own dub.

That would be something, wouldn't it? "Oy mate! I be goin' Super Saiyan 2 roight naow!"

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

Because Canada is where the original cast is located, which is what international audiences demanded. Hence Canada, the United Kingdom, and parts of Europe got what they wanted.

Which brings me back to my other point. That was all the way back when Z was airing on TV. We're talking about Kai, now. Kai is airing on TV for children who have probably never seen any Dragon Ball before. Children who weren't pissed off at the cast switch and don't have a preferred English dub, unlike us hardcore fans.


I don't see why Canada should get their own dub, just because children hated Season 3 ten years ago. That's irrelevant now. The majority of those kids have grown up and stopped watching the show altogether. Canada should just air the American dub and save time. Plus, it's actually decent this time 'round.

[penguintruth]

I don't ordinarily agree with Piccolo Daimaoh, so you know we must be right.

But seriously, why have a new dub when we can spare the new generation all the "THIS ENGLISH VEGETA IS THE BEST ENGLISH VEGETA!"?

But as I've said, the possibility of there being another English dub Goku has me excited.