Why Buff Boo instead of Skinny?

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Why Buff Boo instead of Skinny?

Post by Dayspring » Sat Oct 30, 2010 10:05 pm

With all the new guides over the past months, has any light been shed as to why Super Boo - Mr Boo = Buff Boo instead of Skinny? I have a theory, but I want to see if it's bunk.

For those wondering, my theory is that Fat Boo basically expelled a weaker version of Buff Boo and not a seperate "Skinny" Boo. Here's why:

Fat Boo expelled "Buff Boo Gas." Buff Boo is basically Kid Boo + South Kaioshin, but when the Buff Boo Gas was released, South Kaioshin was still inside Mr Boo. Knowing this, the Buff Boo Gas doesn't condense into its regular Buff Boo body in order to avoid reverting to Kid Boo. Instead, it makes a body capable of supporting Buff Boo's mind/personality/yadda that won't instantly revert to Kid Boo. The result is Skinny Boo.

From there, Skinny Boo + Mr Boo gets us Super Boo following the normal rules for Boo's assimilations. However, since Skinny Boo wasn't a normal body, Super Boo - Mr Boo gets us Buff Boo's regular body, which is where the deus ex machina came from.
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Re: Why Buff Boo instead of Skinny?

Post by Bussani » Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:23 am

I just thought it was like Piccolo Daimao forming from the evil expelled from the nameless Namekian. I'm not sure I see Skinny Buu as a "real Buu" at all--just a manifestation of the evil that was in Buu's heart. Then Skinny Buu eating Fat Buu was kind of like Piccolo Jr. absorbing Kami, I guess. But I don't think the guides give us anything extra to go on.
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Re: Why Buff Boo instead of Skinny?

Post by Terra-jin » Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:34 am

Since Fat Buu had both good and evil in him, he went through a separation just like Kami & Piccolo. It would've been easier to visualize if both Buus remained physically identical like Kami & Piccolo - you'd have a good Fat Buu and an evil Fat Buu - but apparently Buu adopted a physical form that was the exact polar opposite of Fat Buu: an elderly, skinny version called evil Thin Buu.

The spiritual link (the same idea as with Kami & Piccolo) still existed between both Buus. This is where it helps to visualize evil Buu as an evil Fat version, because through this link, the evil Buu was still affected by the absorbed Kaioshin. Basically, the two Buus were still one being that had absorbed the Kaioshin.

So what would happen when this spiritual link breaks? It would mean that Buu's evil counterpart has no connection to the Kaioshin (residing within good Fat Buu) anymore. Hence, he would revert to (the evil half of) Kid Buu.

That's basically my theory. When good Fat Buu is ripped out, the spiritual link that connected him and evil Thin Buu is broken. Without this link, evil Thin Buu has no connection to the Kaioshin anymore and hence reverts to evil Kid Buu.
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Re: Why Buff Boo instead of Skinny?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:52 am

I've long since stopped trying to make sense of Majin Boo's retarded anatomy, and so should you. I don't even think Fat Boo should have evil inside of him, since he's an innocent, childlike being, and children are incapable of evil.
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Re: Why Buff Boo instead of Skinny?

Post by Rocketman » Sun Oct 31, 2010 2:51 pm

Because when Goku and Vegeta are escaping, Vegeta says "He's transforming! Either fat or thin!". Since Vegeta cannot be allowed to be right about anything, the universe altered itself to prove him wrong.

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Re: Why Buff Boo instead of Skinny?

Post by rereboy » Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:02 am

Terra-jin wrote:Since Fat Buu had both good and evil in him, he went through a separation just like Kami & Piccolo. It would've been easier to visualize if both Buus remained physically identical like Kami & Piccolo - you'd have a good Fat Buu and an evil Fat Buu - but apparently Buu adopted a physical form that was the exact polar opposite of Fat Buu: an elderly, skinny version called evil Thin Buu.

The spiritual link (the same idea as with Kami & Piccolo) still existed between both Buus. This is where it helps to visualize evil Buu as an evil Fat version, because through this link, the evil Buu was still affected by the absorbed Kaioshin. Basically, the two Buus were still one being that had absorbed the Kaioshin.

So what would happen when this spiritual link breaks? It would mean that Buu's evil counterpart has no connection to the Kaioshin (residing within good Fat Buu) anymore. Hence, he would revert to (the evil half of) Kid Buu.

That's basically my theory. When good Fat Buu is ripped out, the spiritual link that connected him and evil Thin Buu is broken. Without this link, evil Thin Buu has no connection to the Kaioshin anymore and hence reverts to evil Kid Buu.
One of the best explanations I`ve read.
Rocketman wrote:Because when Goku and Vegeta are escaping, Vegeta says "He's transforming! Either fat or thin!". Since Vegeta cannot be allowed to be right about anything, the universe altered itself to prove him wrong.
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Re: Why Buff Boo instead of Skinny?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Wed Nov 03, 2010 2:27 pm

Why was my post deleted? :?
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Re: Why Buff Boo instead of Skinny?

Post by dbgtFO » Wed Nov 03, 2010 3:23 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:Why was my post deleted? :?
Maybe because it was so short? I don't know, but I experienced that the other day as well(my post contained more than 1 word though).

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Re: Why Buff Boo instead of Skinny?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Wed Nov 03, 2010 3:35 pm

dbgtFO wrote:
Piccolo Daimao wrote:Why was my post deleted? :?
Maybe because it was so short? I don't know, but I experienced that the other day as well(my post contained more than 1 word though).
Well, whatever. It was supposed to be short.
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Re: Why Buff Boo instead of Skinny?

Post by Dayspring » Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:32 pm

Terra-jin wrote:Since Fat Buu had both good and evil in him, he went through a separation just like Kami & Piccolo. It would've been easier to visualize if both Buus remained physically identical like Kami & Piccolo - you'd have a good Fat Buu and an evil Fat Buu - but apparently Buu adopted a physical form that was the exact polar opposite of Fat Buu: an elderly, skinny version called evil Thin Buu.

The spiritual link (the same idea as with Kami & Piccolo) still existed between both Buus. This is where it helps to visualize evil Buu as an evil Fat version, because through this link, the evil Buu was still affected by the absorbed Kaioshin. Basically, the two Buus were still one being that had absorbed the Kaioshin.

So what would happen when this spiritual link breaks? It would mean that Buu's evil counterpart has no connection to the Kaioshin (residing within good Fat Buu) anymore. Hence, he would revert to (the evil half of) Kid Buu.

That's basically my theory. When good Fat Buu is ripped out, the spiritual link that connected him and evil Thin Buu is broken. Without this link, evil Thin Buu has no connection to the Kaioshin anymore and hence reverts to evil Kid Buu.
I like this theory! However, what broke the spiritual link, then? If it was present when evil Boo was expelled, why isn't it there when Mr Boo got removed?
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Re: Why Buff Boo instead of Skinny?

Post by Terra-jin » Fri Nov 05, 2010 3:03 pm

Dayspring wrote:I like this theory! However, what broke the spiritual link, then? If it was present when evil Boo was expelled, why isn't it there when Mr Boo got removed?
Perhaps the violent removal of Mr. Buu's pod can break a spiritual link between two beings... also, the "bad air" inside Buu seems to have an adverse effect on unions :P admittedly this is no great answer, but Buu seems to have known that it would happen - "I won't be me anymore!"
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Re: Why Buff Boo instead of Skinny?

Post by dbgtFO » Fri Nov 05, 2010 3:13 pm

Terra-jin wrote:
Dayspring wrote:I like this theory! However, what broke the spiritual link, then? If it was present when evil Boo was expelled, why isn't it there when Mr Boo got removed?
Perhaps the violent removal of Mr. Buu's pod can break a spiritual link between two beings... also, the "bad air" inside Buu seems to have an adverse effect on unions :P admittedly this is no great answer, but Buu seems to have known that it would happen - "I won't be me anymore!"
I'll agree with the first part, as I don't think Buu's bad air works against him in any way. Your whole theory is now considered canon by me, as it actually makes a lot of sense, too bad no guidebook could be bothered with giving it a proper explanation. :(

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Re: Why Buff Boo instead of Skinny?

Post by p123 » Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:40 pm

Here's my theory on Buu...

Agreed. Even though Kid Buu is suggested to still be in Good Buu by Goku/Vegeta, I highly doubt it. I believe that South + Dai and a small portion of bubblegum holding it all together is what Good Buu consists of.


Honestly , I doubt there is any pods inside of Good Buu. Also I don't think Kid Buu was a pod in Fat Buu. I believe once Dai Kaioshin was absorbed , Buu immediately became Good Buu or Innocent Buu whichever name you prefer.

IMO Good Buu is the same thing as Fat Buu. It had always been Good Buu to begin with. Good Buu became hi own entity and Kid Buu/South/Dai all became one with Good Buu, as in absorbed completely , as in no pods.


Fat Buu never realized he was doing anything bad, even when he was commiting evil acts. He was taught that was how he was supposed to play. Upon learning that this was evil, when angered Good Buu's swells with anger which is Kid Buu's influence on him. Fat Buu never thought being angry was a bad thing, but after learning about what was right/wrong, he realized that his anger was a bad thing, and needs to dispel it, as he is a pure good being, and can't knowingly have evil in him.


So essentially Good Buu and Fat Buu have always been the same except Good Buu is now aware of that anger that swells inside of him. Kid Buu has been completely absorbed and is no longer an entity in Good/Fat. After dispelling his anger, Good Buu's evil takes on a physical entity and is the Evil that was inside of Good Buu. This is not Kid Buu. Kid Buu has no existence as of yet.


Now, when Evil Buu absorbs Good Buu, Kid Buu's existence is now restored. Kid Buu now becomes the dominant figure inside of Super Buu, and is now the base of operations. Kid Buu when directly absorbing Dai Kaioshin cannot exist. Dai Kaioshin's good overrides Kid Buu's evil and Dai Kaioshin dominates his existence to a point where Kid Buu does not exist anymore.


However, Kid being the base of operations inside of Super Buu is able to absorbs Dai Kaioshin, but not directly. He absorbs Good Buu who contains Dai Kaioshin's essence. Which is not exactly Dai Kaioshin, but a new entity combined with South Kaioshin which is Good Buu. So Kid Buu is able to have Dai Kaioshin absorbed indirectly and still maintain most of the power supplied by Buff. But as we can see even Dai Kaioshin's essence absorbed in Good Buu is still playing a major factor. Super is not as strong as Buff Buu, so Dai Kaioshin suppresses Kid's power multiplied by South. Dai Kaioshin works as a restricting agent inside of Super. As you can see even while he is not totally connected in a pod with Kid Buu, just Good Buu , essentially Dai Kaioshin's prescense does not allow Kid to attack Mr Satan.


This also explains why Super says that he will cease to exist. Dai Kaioshin's influence through Good Buu absorbed, allows a different being to be in control. Dai Kaioshin is not fully in control, but he does have some control. Which is exactly why Super is not a complete psycho like Kid Buu. Super does have some state of conciousness that is allowed by this suppressed Dai Kaioshin I guess you could say.


So in the end, it is all about Dai Kaioshin. When he is in Kid Buu's system he drastically changes the normal operations inside of Buu.


So to recap....


Dai Kaioshin absorbed by Kid Buu, creates a new entity, in which neither Kid Buu nor Dai/South are present anymore.

Fat Buu is essentially Good Buu with an anger that swells inside of him. Once Fat Buu realizes that the anger that swells inside of him is evil, he is forced to dispel it. Which creates Evil Buu, which is representative of Kid Buu's influence over Fat, although it is not truly Kid Buu.


Evil Buu absorbs Good Buu, restoring the natural order of things, which places Kid Buu back in charge. Dai Kaioshin , who is still one with Good Buu, is able to still effect Kid Buu, he gives Kid Buu conciousness, suppressed his power, and keeps Super in check. So even Dai Kaioshin being indirectly absorbed has major effects on Kid Buu.




Alright, I think that was my best effort. Man this is going to be a long read, what do you guys think? I think I put this the best way I could. Everytime I explain it, I seem to get my point across a little better, hopefully this one will be my best yet.

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