Curse of the Blood Rubies WILL Have a New Dub--CONFIRMED

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Re: Curse of the Blood Rubies WILL Have a New Dub--CONFIRMED

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:53 pm

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Bardo117 wrote:Keeping the original voices for a re-dub has always been a must. Why do you think Toei went through all the trouble to get the original cast for Kai?
It's cute that you think that Stephanie Naldony is anywhere near as iconic in that role as anybody in the Japanese cast.
Actually, to dub fans, she is. And there are a lot of dub fans.

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Post by Bardo117 » Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:57 pm

Yeah, probably more DUB fans than Japanese fans.
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Re: Curse of the Blood Rubies WILL Have a New Dub--CONFIRMED

Post by penguintruth » Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:59 pm

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Bardo117 wrote:Keeping the original voices for a re-dub has always been a must. Why do you think Toei went through all the trouble to get the original cast for Kai?
It's cute that you think that Stephanie Naldony is anywhere near as iconic in that role as anybody in the Japanese cast.
Actually, to dub fans, she is. And there are a lot of dub fans.
I gaurantee that most people who watch Dragon Ball dubbed wouldn't even notice the voice change. Naldony was Goku for a couple of years. She's not even as established as Schemmel.
Bardo117 wrote:Yeah, probably more DUB fans than Japanese fans.
Worldwide? I doubt it.
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Re: Curse of the Blood Rubies WILL Have a New Dub--CONFIRMED

Post by Bardo117 » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:02 pm

In America, yes.

And why does being a Japanese DUB automatically make you a "better" type of fan? You guys always seem to imply that Dub fans "Wouldn't notice any changes if they where made"
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Post by penguintruth » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:05 pm

Bardo117 wrote:In America, yes.

And why does being a Japanese DUB automatically make you a "better" type of fan? You guys always seem to imply that Dub fans "Wouldn't notice any changes if they where made"
Remember all that outrage over Gohan and Bulma's voices being changed in Kai?

Yeah, neither do I. A few comments on YouTube, and that's it.
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Post by DB_Fan1991 » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:06 pm

You know what? I'll buy it. As much as I hate that Stephanie Nadolny isn't returning to voice Goku here. I am willing to give Colleen Clinkenbeard a chance. After all she is doing well with Gohan, and I can't wait to hear how she handles the younger version of his father. Monica Rial as Bulma? fine with me as she is doing a great job as her in Kai. Here is where we will see how Bryan Massey can handle Oolong as so far we haven't seen him much in Kai. Brina Palencia as Puar sounds so similar to Monika Antonelli's that I can't really tell a difference between them.
Bardo117 wrote:In America, yes.

And why does being a Japanese DUB automatically make you a "better" type of fan? You guys always seem to imply that Dub fans "Wouldn't notice any changes if they where made"
Because this forum is emphasized on the Japanese version.
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Post by Bardo117 » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:10 pm

Still doesn't make you any better of a fan than me.
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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:11 pm

penguintruth wrote:I gaurantee that most people who watch Dragon Ball dubbed wouldn't even notice the voice change.
People noticed the voice changes in Kai, and those weren't even for the main character.

penguintruth wrote: Naldony was Goku for a couple of years. She's not even as established as Schemmel.
Nadolny voiced Kid Gokū in every single episode of Dragon Ball, GT and in some of the video games. To dub fans, Nadolny is Kid Gokū. She is definately as established as Schemmel.

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Post by B » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:12 pm

Bardo117 wrote:In America, yes.

And why does being a Japanese DUB automatically make you a "better" type of fan? You guys always seem to imply that Dub fans "Wouldn't notice any changes if they where made"
No, the majority of people who are out there buying the releases won't notice and/or care about any changes that were made. Which is not the people bitching on the internets, by any stretch of the imagination.

There was a huge shitstorm about the cast in the Sonic the Hedgehog game series getting replaced. My younger brother played Sonic Riders, noticed the change, and just kept playing. Those games continue to sell(enough to warrant sequels, not just brand new games).

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Post by DB_Fan1991 » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:13 pm

Bardo117 wrote:Still doesn't make you any better of a fan than me.
I am a dub fan, but just saying what is the preference of most people here.
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Post by Bardo117 » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:15 pm

Are you guys serious? Why is it also implied that "People who bought the season sets don't care about the dub, or the quality"?


Just because those people don't post on forums to tell everybody what they think, doesn't mean they don't care.
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Post by Bardo117 » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:16 pm

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Bardo117 wrote:Still doesn't make you any better of a fan than me.
I am a dub fan, but just saying what is the preference of most people here.
I was referring to the penguin, who seems to think he's better than me.
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Post by B » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:21 pm

Bardo117 wrote:Are you guys serious? Why is it also implied that "People who bought the season sets don't care about the dub, or the quality"?


Just because those people don't post on forums to tell everybody what they think, doesn't mean they don't care.
Because the dub has horrid acting, the colors on certain sets are washed out, the aspect ratio is fucked, the advertisements had blatant lies within them...?

All the majority cares about is an English dubbed release. Good and bad are irrelevant. DBZ is largely looked upon as "that show" from the late '90s people watched as children(read: they watched when they were too young to discern quality). Add on top of that the cheap pricing, and the first real consistent release of the series, of course the bricks sold.
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Post by penguintruth » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:22 pm

Bardo117 wrote:
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Bardo117 wrote:Still doesn't make you any better of a fan than me.
I am a dub fan, but just saying what is the preference of most people here.
I was referring to the penguin, who seems to think he's better than me.
That has little to do with the subject at hand, doesn't it?

Clearly there's very little outrage over Goku's VA being replaced. That's my observation. It's the same few people.
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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:42 pm

penguintruth wrote: Clearly there's very little outrage over Goku's VA being replaced. That's my observation. It's the same few people.
There will be once the news starts spreading around more. The recasts were only announced yesterday.

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Post by AgitoZ » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:46 pm

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:
penguintruth wrote: Clearly there's very little outrage over Goku's VA being replaced. That's my observation. It's the same few people.
There will be once the news starts spreading around more. The recasts were only announced yesterday.
Oh no! Goku's voice is being changed for one movie. I get the outcry but calm down at least we're getting a new dub.
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Post by Makaioshin » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:47 pm

His voice was already changed for Origins 2 wasn't it?

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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:00 pm

AgitoZ wrote:Oh no! Goku's voice is being changed for one movie. I get the outcry but calm down at least we're getting a new dub.
You have to put yourself in dub fans' shoes. What if Curse of the Blood Rubies was an entirely new movie, and Nozawa was announced to be replaced as Kid Gokū, without any explanation. I know I'd be pissed (I actually liked Nozawa as Kid Gokū).

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Post by penguintruth » Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:03 pm

Naldony isn't nearly as iconic in the role as Nozawa. Not even close.

And certainly nowhere near as good, either.
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Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:04 pm

penguintruth wrote:Naldony isn't nearly as iconic in the role as Nozawa. Not even close.

And certainly nowhere near as good, either.
I guess not if you're not a fan of the dub anyway.
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