DragonBall Z Kai TV Network Version (CW4Kids\Toonzai\Vortex)

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Post by Coola Yagami » Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:26 pm

Did Bulma also wear those uh... spandex shorts or whatever in the Nicktoons version? I don't remember the Nicktoons version, but I doubt they'd leave her panties in.

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Post by GenkiDama1994 » Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:23 pm

Coola Yagami, the shorts were an edit. The Nicktoons version kept the panties.

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Post by Coola Yagami » Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:14 am

I knew it was an edit... lmao I just didn't remember if Nicktoons used the same one.

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Post by gmster » Sat Nov 27, 2010 3:00 pm

Edits I noticed for this week's episodes:
Pupils and groaning added to the dead Namekians.
Dende trying to wake up Cargo after he is killed is cut, and a shot of the Elder and Dende had Cargo erased from the ground.
That's all I noticed.

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Post by Coola Yagami » Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:44 pm

Made it look like Dodoria just punched the Elder and they still drew his eyes slightly opened as if he were just stunned or whatever.

I'm surprised they kept Vegeta blasting Dodoria, they even kept the frame of him being torn apart by the blast.

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Post by gmster » Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:13 pm

They made it look like Dodoria just punched the Elder too in the Nicktoons version.
CW version just added pupils to his eyes and groaning sounds.
Actually, rewatching it, it looks like his eyes are twitching. CW made it more creepy and less violent at the same time :shock: .

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Post by PuppetDoctor » Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:16 pm

gmster wrote:They made it look like Dodoria just punched the Elder too in the Nicktoons version.
CW version just added pupils to his eyes and groaning sounds.
Actually, rewatching it, it looks like his eyes are twitching. CW made it more creepy and less violent at the same time :shock: .
Yeah, it looked like they were literally having a seizure or something after they died. It was creeping me out seeing their eyes twitching like crazy. They did that for the Elder and also the Namekian who was punched by Dodoria into the cliff (which they completely cut).

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Post by gmster » Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:45 pm

PuppetDoctor wrote:They did that for the Elder and also the Namekian who was punched by Dodoria into the cliff (which they completely cut).
I thought he only headbutted one of them into the cliff. I don't remember that happening. Of course, it could be because it was cut :x

CW has actually left all of the fights and violence from the Nicktoons version alone, only editing when death is concerned.
Unless it was a direct onscreen face punch, (which CW absolutely hates, just look at Yu-Gi-Oh 5D's and Dragon Soul intro) I don't see why they cut it.

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Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:05 pm

gmster wrote:
PuppetDoctor wrote:CW has actually left all of the fights and violence from the Nicktoons version alone, only editing when death is concerned.Unless it was a direct onscreen face punch, (which CW absolutely hates, just look at Yu-Gi-Oh 5D's and Dragon Soul intro) I don't see why they cut it.
I think the censors have to cut things that are "imitatable" that's why most of the fantasy related deaths like fireballs and such are left almost untouched, while a punch to the face gets cut.

On that note though, I remember a few hard hits that weren't cut, for example...

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It might be because they're flying? Would that be the fantasy element...? I don't know, there are some odd edits sometimes, I haven't figured out their guidlines, they seem all over the place.

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Post by gmster » Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:22 pm

CW didn't cut that either. The Y7-FV rating varies from network to network, I guess.

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Post by Innagadadavida » Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:13 pm

Tanooki Kuribo wrote:It might be because they're flying? Would that be the fantasy element...? I don't know, there are some odd edits sometimes, I haven't figured out their guidlines, they seem all over the place.
Maybe there is a certain limit to the amount of physical contact you can show, fantasy or not. For example, a PG13 movie can contain no more than one "Fuck" (as long as it isn't referring to baby makin'). Might be a similar situation. Or maybe they have no idea what they're doing and just playing it by ear. Which is much more likely.
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Post by Big Momma » Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:43 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:
Maybe there is a certain limit to the amount of physical contact you can show, fantasy or not. For example, a PG movie can contain no more than one "Fuck" (as long as it isn't referring to baby makin'). Might be a similar situation. Or maybe they have no idea what they're doing and just playing it by ear. Which is much more likely.
Really? Has it always been like that? I thought that was the rule for PG-13 movies?
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Post by Innagadadavida » Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:53 pm

That's what I meant. I left out the "13" by mistake. Edited the post.

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Post by Big Momma » Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:38 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:That's what I meant. I left out the "13" by mistake. Edited the post.
Oh alright, haha. I was thinking there'd be a lot of angry parents if that were the case :P
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Post by gmster » Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:58 pm

So, apparently, because of "BS&P and ad content" reasons they had to remove Shenron from the opening.

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Post by bkev » Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:09 pm

...What? Then how will they deal with wishes? 4Kids claims a time cut, but... they only replaced the background so shouldn't it run the same? snapshot taken from Toonzone forum.
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Post by gmster » Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:20 pm

They claim it's only temporary.
It doesn't make any sense. They always had left Shenron in the opening before. Once the Namek arc started, they replaced him with a green background.
See for yourself here: http://www.toonzone.net/forums/showthre ... 98&page=17

EDIT: Ah, you beat me to it. I'm not buying the time constraint story either. Load of bullshit. They already cut Vegeta punching Goku in the intro, and numerous cuts in the episode themselves. Either The CW is out of it's mind, or 4kids is really greedy for ad revenue. From what I hear about their financial situation, they really need it. But this is fucking nuts.

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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:55 pm

I'm confused, why exactly did they do that?

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Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:37 pm

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:I'm confused, why exactly did they do that?
Dragons are scary?

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Post by bkev » Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:33 am

Anyone else think that the Toonzaki dude on the fanpage is overly defensive and rather enjoys making an ass of himself? I mean, I'm used to this when it comes to 4kids, but - from the fans, not someone who's supposed to represent them. Kinda unprofessional, don't you think?
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