DragonBall Z Kai - Cable TV Version (NickToons)

[AgitoZ]

Yeeeahhh but it's not as appropriate for little little kids as far as language. There is some pretty inappropriate words (more specifically on AT's sister show, Regular Show, which shares a timeslot), some more than obvious innuendos, as well as some disturbing imagery. Dragon Ball Z Kai is certainly more violent, but violence seems to be less of an issue than language on American television.

I guess but most are just psuedo-swears and gross subjects. Hell Kai's DVDs have more inappropriate langauage.

So in conclusion mild language is bad but fighting is a-okay!

[dan2026]

Wow this is almost fucking unwatchable.
Almost every hit is censored in some way.

Its Dragon Ball for fuck sake, half the point is people punching each other in the face.

[Tanooki Kuribo]

Vegeta's Covert Maneuvers! A Tragic Assault on the Namekians!





As the episode begins, smoke is settling from the blast that just killed Dodoria. Vegeta talks about how much stronger he's gotten and mentions...



Then there isn't an edit for a while. Not until Krillin, Gohan and Dende are walking back to the cave where they left Bulma. Krillin is talking out loud about the situation and thinks it was all a mistake coming to Planet Namek...



When they meet up with Bulma, she yells at Krillin and Gohan for leaving such a delicate flower alone in the middle of no where. Krillin replies...



Meanwhile, Vegeta comes to a village. When he demands they give them the DragonBall, they refuse. Vegeta makes his hand like a gun, and says...



As Vegeta kills off the Namekians, Gohan and Krillin can feel their powers dying off one by one. As they talk about how hopeless this whole situation is, Krillin says...



Meanwhile back at the village, we see Vegeta take out a few Namekians. A lot of this isn't edited. Actually, there is only one shot that was edited. It's kinda odd, we have Vegeta bashing a Namekian right on top of his head, a Namekian holding a dead baby, random dead bodies... The only thing that was edited in this whole scene was a shot of Vegeta blasting the Namekian holding the dead baby. Apparently showing the dead baby is OK, but when they show the silhouette of it getting blasted, it's too much.





Then, again, no edits for a while. One of the last scenes of the episode has Krillin and Dende flying towards the Grand Elder. As Krillin talks about how worried he is about the current situation he says...



Episode 23 ends soon after.

Also, I don't know if anyone was aware, but back on page one, after I post one of these, I add the episode and what page to find it on. Just in case you wanna look for a particular episode, it's just easier. See...

Episode 1: "Prologue To Battle! The Return Of Goku !" - Page 1
Episode 2: "The Enemy is Goku's Brother?! The Secret of the Mighty Saiyan Warriors !" - Page 1
Episode 3: "A Life of Death Battle! Goku and Piccolo's Desperate Attack !" - Page 1
Episode 4: "Run in the Afterlife Goku! The Million Mile Snake Way !" - Page 3
Episode 5: "Wilderness Survival! A Moonlit Night Awakens Gohan!" - Page 4
Episode 6: "The End of Snake Way! King Kai's Bizarre Test!" - Page 4
Episode 7: "The Battle with Ten-Times Gravity! Goku's Race Against The Clock" - Page 5
Episode 8: "Shenron Appears! The Saiyans Arrive Sooner Than Expected!" - Page 5
Episode 9: "Yamcha's Struggle! The Terrible Saibamen!" - Page 6
Episode 10: "Sit Tight Chiaotzu! Tenshinhan's Screaming Tri Beam!" - Page 7
Episode 11: "Will Goku Make it in Time?! Three Hours Untill the Battle Resumes!" - Page - 9
Episode 12: "Farewell, Piccolo. Goku's Furious Counterattack!" - Page 10
Episode 13: "The Power of the Kaio-Ken! Goku vs. Vegeta!" - Page 12
Episode 14: "An All-Out Kamehameha! Vegeta's Terrible Transformation!" - Page 14
Episode 15: "Goku on the Rops! Pin Your Hopes on the Spirit Bomb!" - Page 15
Episode 16: "Defeat the Invincible Vegeta! Work a Miracle, Gohan!" - Page 16
Episode 17: "Dawn of a Fierce Battle! The Star of Hope is Piccolo's Homeland!" - Page 16
Episode 18: "The Ship Resting in Yunzabit! Blast Off to Planet Namek!" - Page 21
Episode 19: "A Powerfull New Foe! Freeza Ruler of the Universe!" - Page 22
Episode 20: "The Rebellion Against Freeza! Vegeta's Burning Ambition!" - Page 23
Episode 21: "Protect the Dragon Balls! The Namekians All-Out Attack!" - Page 24
Episode 22: "Dodoria's Terrifying Chase! A Truth Revealed to Vegeta!" - Page 24
Episode 23: "Vegeta's Covert Maneuvers! A Tragic Assault on the Namekians!" - Page 25

[KaiserNeko]

Then, again, no edits for a while. One of the last scenes of the episode has Krillin and Dende flying towards the Grand Elder. As Krillin talks about how worried he is about the current situation he says...

YES! That shitty line WAS just a censor re-write! Thank God...

[Tanooki Kuribo]

Wow this is almost fucking unwatchable.
Almost every hit is censored in some way.

Its Dragon Ball for fuck sake, half the point is people punching each other in the face.

Really? I don't think it's that bad. Maybe it just looks worse because I'm just showing the edits so that's all you see, but there are some hits that aren't censored. I wouldn't say this is unwatchable though.

[Mewzard]

The uncut version is definitely better in the way of dealing with stupid edits, but the Nicktoons version isn't all that bad. It's not nearly as bad as the CW4Kids version. The Nicktoons version is actually a tolerable way to watch the series while I wait for the DVDs. Though, the change from Girlfriend line to Mother line, and censoring "This Sucks!" is hilarious to me. This sucks is a staple of children's cartoons.

[Gaffer Tape]

Why has the broadcast version always had a problem with Kuririn wanting a girlfriend?

But aside from that, it still seems like some of the broadcast lines, particularly in this episode, are more accurate to the original line than the uncut version. It kinda reminds me of something Chris Psaros postulated back during season 3: that now that the show was on Cartoon Network and being edited much less stringently, it almost seemed like they were adding in random swear words just to give people an incentive to shell out a few extra bucks for uncut tapes. And I'm honestly beginning to the get that impression here on occasion. I mean, does any single person here honestly believe Kuririn wishing for a girlfriend was considered objectionable by Nicktoons?

Oh, and it's "injuries" not "injury's."

[TheBlackPaladin]

I mean, does any single person here honestly believe Kuririn wishing for a girlfriend was considered objectionable by Nicktoons?

They must have. Otherwise FUNimation would not have made the edit. I do find it odd that Nicktoons would have a problem with that, but TV networks are VERY weird about what they consider inappropriate. At one point back in the ol' days, FUNimation was told they couldn't use the word "idiot," because the strictest definition of the word is somebody who is mentally handicapped. There was also an instance on the show "Reboot," (the CGI-animated show that also aired on Cartoon Network) where the studio was told they had to cut a scene of Dot and Enzo (sister and brother, respectively) hugging each other because it implied incest.

Which leads me to one of two conclusions:

1) The people in charge of deciding the edits are the biggest tight-asses in the world who are offended by anything remotely offensive.
OR
2) The people in charge of deciding the edits are afraid of offending the biggest tight-asses in the world who are offended by anything remotely offensive.

Either way, what a bunch of idiots.

[Gaffer Tape]

They must have. Otherwise FUNimation would not have made the edit.

Again, see my above hypothesis. Especially considering how many people on these boards have made the comments that the edited lines oftentimes do sound more natural than the "uncut" lines, it really does seem to me that FUNimation occasionally changes lines just to entice people to buy the DVDs.

Oh, and the "idiot" controversy was when they were under Saban, who weaseled out of anything that could be construed as offensive. If Aang and Katara can court each other, if ten-year-old Timmy Turner can express his lust for a classmate, there is absolutely no reason that Nicktoons wouldn't allow Kuririn to simply wish that he had a girlfriend.

[TheBlackPaladin]

They must have. Otherwise FUNimation would not have made the edit.

Again, see my above hypothesis. Especially considering how many people on these boards have made the comments that the edited lines oftentimes do sound more natural than the "uncut" lines, it really does seem to me that FUNimation occasionally changes lines just to entice people to buy the DVDs.

I read your hypothesis, and I guess what I'm saying is that I disagree. I could definitely see that being the case with the old dub, but I'm finding that the dialogue is often more loyal in the uncut version, I guess. There have been a few instances where I like the "edited" lines more, but I haven't seen enough to convince me personally that they're re-writing for the sake of re-writing.

[Goku100xKamehameha]

Wow this is almost fucking unwatchable.

At least it's still watchable... http://daizex.fanboyreview.net/viewtopi ... 16&t=14161

[bkev]

It seems FUNimation's practice to be very curse-happy. YuYu Hakusho, for instance, and - to a lesser extent - Kai. I'd rather have an uncut (footage-wise) dub with most of the unnecessary language. So it'd be easier to share, for one; but, also, I feel like Dragonball should feel like a kid's show. Also, some of the edited dialogue (though, admittedly, not all) just seems to be written better.

[Tanooki Kuribo]

Friends Reborn! Zarbon's Hideous Transformation!





There were no edits for the first 13 minutes or so. The first edit comes as Vegeta is feeling out for power levels...



Eventually Vegeta comes across Zarbon. He says nothing jump starts the memory like a grudge match, then adds...



After some banter, Zarbon asks Vegeta why he turned against them and Freeza. Vegeta answers...



A little while later, after some punches and attacks are exchanged. Zarbon is a bit banged up. His blood is edited out...





When they show Zarbon's hand, the blood is edited out but then, it's like the digital paint guy went out to lunch because when Zarbon moves his hand, the blood magically appears in the same shot!





Even though Zarbon is getting his ass kicked, he's not finished yet! He mentions to Vegeta that he can transform...



As he transforms Vegeta yells out...



As soon as the transformation is done, he charges Vegeta with a bunch of attacks, one of them being a slap to the face which was flash edited... (The reason the flash looks gray is because when it happens faster then usual, it becomes extremely hard to get a screen shot when it's fully black, even when going in slow motion)



Then at some point Zarbon grabs Vegeta and starts head butting him. This whole scene was cut...



In the next shot, when we see Vegeta he's all bloody. Instead of totally removing the blood like they did with Zarbon, Vegeta's blood is re colored for the rest of the episode...





Next, Vegeta and Zarbon attack each other with a barage of punches and kicks, the TV version shortened this by a few seconds...



Zarbon then flips and kicks Vegeta on his chin, this happens extremely fast, maybe it was done so they didn't have to edit the blood for such a short little shot?



Zarbon flies towards Vegeta and clothes lines him before grabbing him. The clothes line move is edited out...



As Zarbon is holding Vegeta he tells him...



Then, in typical Japanese animation fashion, we get the same scene of Zarbon kicking Vegeta on the chin and again, it's edited out...



Then Zarbon bashes Vegeta on the head, this was flash edited...



As Vegeta flies down Zarbon grabs him and yells...



And with that Vegeta has lost. Zarbon think he's actually killed him and says water, water everywhere...



Vegeta eventually crawls out of the water and with that, episode 24 ends soon after...

[Mewzard]

Wow, not many edits at all. Just some damns to darns (and other swear edits), and some blood edits. Most of the dialog was fairly unchanged.

Do you prefer the uncut dialog most? Or does the edited stuff sometimes catch your eye more?

[Metalwario64]

Just what was the reason for changing this line? Both seem just as "violent" to me...

[Coola Yagami]

Why did I explode?

[Sun-Wukong]

Am I the only one who sees the irony in editing all of this out when their confrontation is going to end with such a gruesome death? Then again, they'll probably flash edit the punch, edit the blood from the wound and cut straight to him flying into the ocean with the sound of the ki blast over it. Then for some reason leave the blood on his hand when it cuts back to Vegeta...

[Metalwario64]

Then again, they'll probably flash edit the punch, edit the blood from the wound and cut straight to him flying into the ocean with the sound of the ki blast over it. Then for some reason leave the blood on his hand when it cuts back to Vegeta...

What do you mean "they will" probably? Is it because you haven't seen the Nicktoons version of that episode yet?

Though, I think they did do something similar to that, but why would they leave blood on Vegeta's hand?

[Tanooki Kuribo]

Am I the only one who sees the irony in editing all of this out when their confrontation is going to end with such a gruesome death? Then again, they'll probably flash edit the punch, edit the blood from the wound and cut straight to him flying into the ocean with the sound of the ki blast over it. Then for some reason leave the blood on his hand when it cuts back to Vegeta...

I don't understand. What'd you mean "probably"? I just showed you how they edited it...

Wow, not many edits at all.

Actually, "Vegeta's Covert Maneuvers! A Tragic Assault on the Namekians!" had the least so far, I wish every episode was like that.

[DB_Fan1991]

You missed one line change in Episode 24 for Zarbon.

Uncut: You might as well know before you breathe your last breath. There's a very good reason I keep my full powers hidden.
Edited: You might as well know before I show you first hand. There's a very good reason I keep my full powers hidden.