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DragonBall Z: Movie 12 - Animation Flaws and Oddities!

Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:27 am

Hey guys, if you follow me on twitter you've probably seen me post random animation flaws from the series, some oddities and some "hey, look at this" kinda images. I've recently watched DragonBall Z movie 12 and found quite a few, I didn't wanna put them all on twitter so I figure I'd make a post about them being it's all contained in one movie. Also, I'm not pointing out errors to complain or anything like that, I find them interesting and fun...

The first error is this movie came as South Kai smashes his hand up against King Kai. In the first part of the scene his hands are pink, as they should, but as King Kai falls back in the next scene, his hands are now blue!

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Edit: (totally missed this the first time around) the camera pans down on Goku and Paikuhan. Goku's shirt is colored orange when it should have been blue...

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The next one isn't an error but hey, look at who's in the stands! It's Arqua, that's totally Arqua!

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I was thinking if I should exclude the opening since it's so common and there have been a few errors and oddities pointed out here before but, I figure for good measure and for the sake of conversation, it wouldn't hurt.

FUNimation took one frame of animation from this opening for one of their "Great Saiyaman" videos. This was really a hard frame to capture, it's really just one shot of Gohan's face moving....

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Gohan has a book back in once scene then in the next it's gone...

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Goten also changes clothes from one scene to the next...

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Also in that scene, a rare picture. Piccolo, Krillin and Bulma driving in a car. What an odd combination. I wish they would have had this on the screen for more than a half a second...

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A shot of Gohan turning Super Saiyan has a small error, Gohan's eye brows are still black...

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And, the last thing I'll mention from the opening. FUNimation takes another screen shot for one of their covers. This time this Goten and Trunks are used for one of the "World Tournament" videos.

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As the movie starts we see Enma-Daio doing what he does best. But hey, what's that!? He has one human hand?! Also, his hamburger isn't colored the right way, looks kinda odd, but it's colored in full at the end, you'll see...

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After Janemba takes over Tank Boy's body... or whatever he does, he sits on the roof of the check-in station. His armor is white...

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Meanwhile at the Son house. Videl helps Chi-Chi with the dishes, in one scene there are spatulas and what not hanging on the cabinets, in the next scene they're gone...

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Side note: DBZ movie 12 took place on a Saturday, the 16th!

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As Goku and Paikuhan meet Janemba for the first time, Janemba flicks Paikuhan back and crashes into a jelly bean... thingy. The body impact is in a totally different area then where he actually hits. Check it out for yourself, it's a little odd...

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As dead people are coming back to life, Freeza comes across Gohan. After Gohan takes his cape off and introduces himself as "Son Gohan", the next scene shows Gohan with the cape on, with his back turned...

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As Freeza summons his minions, Jeese seems to be wearing tighty whiteys...

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Later at Bulma's house, the Dragon is summoned. Did you ever notice Bulma's parents were there?

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Now this next one is really strange. So you know that scene where Super Saiyan 3 Goku is beating up on Janemba? Well, right before Goku forms those two energy balls in his hands, there is a slight, slight image from later in the movie. It's very strange and I don't know if this is on other versions of the film. I'm using the DragonBox singles for this post...

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As Goku comes down on Janemba with those two energy balls, one shot shows Janemba's stomach totally fine, the next we see some damage...

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Later on, Goku is stuck inside the transformed bloody pond. Strange thing happens here. As Janemba strikes Goku we see the blade attack head right for him, but then out of no where an energy ball! It's Vegeta! But wait, the energy ball didn't actually stop the slash attack, it goes right past it! Goku should be in two pieces after this scene! :lol:

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Then a while later, Goku and Vegeta are talking about fusion. Goku grows his shirt back for one scene...

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And then I couldn't find anything else until the very end. Enma-Daio's hand is still flesh colored, but now his hamburger is colored brown and... his pen changed from pink to white. Why would I even notice that? Also, check out that stupid face he has, that made me laugh...

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Bonus! Here are some of the animation flaws and oddities I posted on my Twitter!

No glass in Trunks's glasses - http://twitpic.com/2rwevj

Oolong has no legs! - http://twitpic.com/21km1o

Minor paint error - http://twitpic.com/1q8ad8

Flesh colored eyed - http://twitpic.com/1hseis

Flesh colored eye brow - http://twitpic.com/1c1fmx

I'm OK! - http://twitpic.com/17kq03

I'm a white belt - http://twitpic.com/q4v1a
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Re: DragonBall Z: Movie 12 - Animation Flaws and Oddities!

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:50 am

Tanooki Kuribo wrote:The first error is this movie came as South Kai smashes his hand up against King Kai. In the first part of the scene his hands are pink, as they should, but as King Kai falls back in the next scene, his hands are now blue!

The next one isn't an error but hey, look at who's in the stands! It's Frog, that's totally Frog!

Side note: DBZ movie 12 took place on a Saturday, the 16th!

Now this next one is really strange. So you know that scene where Super Saiyan 3 Goku is beating up on Janemba? Well, right before Goku forms those two energy balls in his hands, there is a slight, slight image from later in the movie. It's very strange and I don't know if this is on other versions of the film. I'm using the DragonBox singles for this post...
1. It looks like who ever colored it assumed it was North Kaio's hand, as even the shirt looks more like his than South Kaios.

2. Aqua....Frog looks like a frog... lol

3. Interesting... So I assume since it is kinda Buu Saga related, that it would probably take place in May after a different defeat of Buu? If that is the case, then in this alternate timeline, Janenba appears about 9 days after the Tenkaichi Budokai.

4. That is just weird...though I don't currently have the means to check if the Funi releases are like that...
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Re: DragonBall Z: Movie 12 - Animation Flaws and Oddities!

Post by Chuquita » Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:12 am

I wonder if Saturday the 16th was the day the movie was first released.
Lots of neat oddities here!
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:29 am

Chuquita wrote:I wonder if Saturday the 16th was the day the movie was first released.
Lots of neat oddities here!
Nope, it was a Saturday, but the movie came out on March 4, 1995. So there went that idea.
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Re: DragonBall Z: Movie 12 - Animation Flaws and Oddities!

Post by Perfect » Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:30 am

I guess the Vegeta one wasn't meant to be seen so...slow? maybe they just assumed we wouldn't be pausing it and watching it frame by frame? I dunno, I haven't seen it in awhile. But I did notice quite a few obvious artwork errors in the movie the last time I did watch it, still the animation is awesome...The art is too, even with a few errors here and there. Oh also, rewatch the Goku vs. Pikkon fight, I believe there was an error there with Goku's shirt (Or maybe it was during Goku and Vegeta's fight against Janemba, not the one you listed though).
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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:02 am

We should send these photos to Toei. Someone should be fired! :P

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Post by NUDEoctopus » Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:49 am

Wow...they made quite a few errors here. Thank you Tanooki, everytime I watch Movie 12 from now until the end of time, I will notice and point out all this stuff to whomever I am viewing it with. :P
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Post by CODii » Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:25 am

Thanks for the post Tanooki. It was a fun read.

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Post by SHINOBI-03 » Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:37 am

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I found a cel error. Check out that box on the right (Enma's left elbow). It's supposed to be behind the elbow and not on it.

EDIT: Any plans to do for the rest of the movies?
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Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:44 am

SHINOBI-03 wrote:
Any plans to do for the rest of the movies?
I'd like too. I might just pop in every now and then with one.

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Post by Ahiru77 » Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:46 pm

They damned the production staff. :lol:

Atleast Chad from Accounting gets a free pass.

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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:05 pm

This reminds me of a programme I watched on BBC3 called Great Movie Mistakes, where they point out mistakes in films that you wouldn't notice at first, like extras popping up multiple times in the same scene or objects randomly disappearing.

I don't think people should be bashing Toei even more for making these errors though, since they're tiny, insignificant ones that weren't intended to be picked out for our own amusement. Still, though, it's an interesting thread and I also enjoy the aforementioned programme.
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Post by jjgp1112 » Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:20 pm

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How the fuck does this even happen?!
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jjgp1112 wrote:How the fuck does this even happen?!
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Post by Tsukento » Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:12 pm

I noticed something on my second Dragon Box volume in regards to Dodoria. Brought this up with Rin the other day.

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So what's the issue? Well Dodoria had three fingers in the manga, but five in the anime. However, these shots show him with different finger counts. On the left, he has a total of 9 fingers, whereas the one on the right is debatable. On his left hand, you would think it looks like he has three, but the fourth is stretched rather awkwardly. At least I think that's his fourth finger, anyway. Yet on the right hand, his fingers look spaced out just fine.
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Post by ThunderPX » Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:38 pm

The left shot has ten fingers. The thumb on his free arm is drawn a little wacky though.
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Post by cpd12589 » Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:44 pm

Wow that's crazy how many animation errors you found just in movie 12. I know there's probably a ton more but good job at finding those. I've always noticed that one where Goten had different clothes while riding the Nimbus. Good to know it's not just the version I had.

It really is weird how that scene with Gogeta kicking Janemba just somehow found it's way in that part of the movie. Really how does that even happen?! lol

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Post by Tsukento » Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:40 pm

ThunderPX wrote:The left shot has ten fingers. The thumb on his free arm is drawn a little wacky though.
No, I see the thumb just fine. It's where the pinky should be that's missing.
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Re: DragonBall Z: Movie 12 - Animation Flaws and Oddities!

Post by Codarik » Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:33 pm

That strange mistake is in FUNimation's remastered version too. Here is the screenshot of it. (Sorry if the pic is too big lol)

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