Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by dbgtFO » Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:52 pm

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rereboy wrote:In the manga, just before Goten and Trunks face Super Buu in the Room of Spirit and Time and right after they finish training for the fight, they talk about SSJ3 and Trunks states that it`s weakness is time since they could only hold it for a short period of time and that it even canceled out their fusion afterwards.
Really?! I thought Trunks only mentions the 5 minutes weakness and it canceling the fusion are bad translations. It even isn't something we actually get to see later.
Its just like that in the Viz translation and I believe its accurate. After all, even GT used that idea to make Gogeta unfuse early.
Yeah just see how many times the number 5 is written out on this page volume 41/34 it's in the second panel, third panel and seventh panel. And in panel 6 you see the number 30 is present, so even if you don't understand japanese it should be obvious, that they were talking about fusion.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Senzu_Bean » Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:08 pm

Yeah, of course Trunks is talking about Fusion in there but does he really say about SSJ3 canceling the fusion? I'm pretty sure he doesn't but I can't read Japanese.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by dbgtFO » Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:28 pm

Senzu_Bean wrote:Yeah, of course Trunks is talking about Fusion in there but does he really say about SSJ3 canceling the fusion? I'm pretty sure he doesn't but I can't read Japanese.
Well in my version on the previous page, they said that they surpassed SSJ(SSJ 3, since we are shown later on, that "surpassed Super Saiyan" means SSJ 3 to them), but it left Goten severely exhausted.
On the page I posted Trunks then goes on to say, that their fusion only lasted 5 minutes, but Goten is okay with that, since it's more than enough.
So yeah, if that translation is correct, then SSJ 3 indeed shortened their fusion time.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:38 pm

Senzu_Bean wrote:Yeah, of course Trunks is talking about Fusion in there but does he really say about SSJ3 canceling the fusion? I'm pretty sure he doesn't but I can't read Japanese.
If you still have doubts, you can always use the manga page that dbgtFO posted and ask Herms (or somebody else) to translate the panel at the top that has the clock drawn. That is the panel where Viz`s translation says that SSJ3 canceled their fusion.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Senzu_Bean » Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:41 pm

I already did last week or so. :P I didn't get an answer though.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:45 pm

Here is a scan of the panels in question of my Vizbig Volume 9:

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:26 pm

Senzu_Bean wrote:I already did last week or so. :P I didn't get an answer though.
I created a topic asking for the accurate translation of those two lines: http://daizex.fanboyreview.net/viewtopi ... =8&t=15403

Here is what Herms wrote:
Herms wrote:“Look…We’re able to become that for about 5 minutes…Then the Fusion itself comes undone and we return to being two people…”
So, SSJ3 does indeed interfere with the duration of Gotenks` fusion. Viz didn`t change the original meaning of the line.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Scarz » Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:22 pm

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Yup,this fight is determined by luck. I wonder why Trunks didn't go SSJ?

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:29 pm

Scarz wrote:Yup,this fight is determined by luck. I wonder why Trunks didn't go SSJ?
Probably because they are tired after using their fusion and the SSJ3 state. Since they didn`t have a chance to rest up, most of their power is gone.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Scarz » Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:38 pm

rereboy wrote:
Scarz wrote:Yup,this fight is determined by luck. I wonder why Trunks didn't go SSJ?
Probably because they are tired after using their fusion and the SSJ3 state. Since they didn`t have a chance to rest up, most of their power is gone.
Oh okay, that makes sense.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Jaruka » Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:48 pm

rereboy wrote:
Scarz wrote:Yup,this fight is determined by luck. I wonder why Trunks didn't go SSJ?
Probably because they are tired after using their fusion and the SSJ3 state. Since they didn`t have a chance to rest up, most of their power is gone.
Or because, as they learnt from going Super Saiyan 3, it's completely unnecessary to transform against someone who is identical to you.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Heatth » Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:56 pm

They just had to fight their counter part, hadn't they? They should have learned by now how useless it is.

Now, which Trunks do you think had won? And about Goten, it will be the same universe Goten or it will be the other one?

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Great Saiyaman I » Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:39 pm

You know, I gotta wonder something. Do they have to leave the ring as Gotenks? I don't think they have enough power to.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:03 pm

Great Saiyaman I wrote:You know, I gotta wonder something. Do they have to leave the ring as Gotenks? I don't think they have enough power to.
I don`t think so...

What they did is considered to be equivalent to Tenshinhan`s technique of splitting himself. Since the split bodies are basically Gotenks, its not against the rules, because we still have just one fighter. He just happens to be split in more than one part/bodies.

And since its just considered to be a technique, all they have to do is win. It doesn`t matter if they "undo" the "splitting technique" before leaving the ring or not because, by then, the winner of the match has already been declared.
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Scarz wrote:Yup,this fight is determined by luck. I wonder why Trunks didn't go SSJ?
Probably because they are tired after using their fusion and the SSJ3 state. Since they didn`t have a chance to rest up, most of their power is gone.
Or because, as they learnt from going Super Saiyan 3, it's completely unnecessary to transform against someone who is identical to you.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:39 am

Thank god the artist isn't dragging this out. I think the fight will be over in three pages or so.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by LeprikanGT » Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:45 pm

Scarz wrote:Image

I feel all tingly inside. :)
Does anyone know where the REALLY nicely coloered version of this pic is?

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Maphisto86 » Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:16 am

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Scarz wrote:*snipped awesome picture*

I feel all tingly inside. :)
Does anyone know where the REALLY nicely coloered version of this pic is?
There are a bunch of them in the Bonus section. Here's a link: http://dbm-en-couleur.supafan.net/. I am also sure I saw a few more renditions on Deviantart.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:59 am

LeprikanGT wrote:
Scarz wrote:http://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en ... l/0222.pngI feel all tingly inside. :)
Does anyone know where the REALLY nicely colored version of this pic is?
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Ignore the motivational bottom if you like. The original didn`t include that part.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:16 am

rereboy wrote:*SSj3 Vegetto image*
Rocketman's gonna cream himself when he sees this.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Scarz » Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:16 pm

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I say tie both Gotens by the wrist, throw a couple of switch blades in there, and let them have at it.

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