"Dragon Box" sets - Which/how acquired?

[Jerseymilk]

Spoken like a true university student. I'm curious to know whether or not you live with your parents? And don't worry, the very fact that I can still do the job I do, shows that I can have a positive outlook on things. You shouldn't presume things about people unless you know them by the way.

And you completely missed the meaning of my post and instead decided to lecture me. I never said that people who are scraping a living would be whining about not being able to afford a Dragonbox, I was posting in response to the attitude I saw from some people that seemed to come off as "if you're a truly dedicated fan, you should be willing and happy to work at getting these boxes". I didn't like that and thought it was judgemental.

And guess what? Sometimes people can't even afford to keep a reserve of emergency cash. Once again, stop being so judgemental and lecturing. And yes I agree that the prices shouldn't be lowered and that's tough because it's a luxury and that someone can save up slowly and work towards a goal, but just don't presume it's as easy and cut and dry for everybody.

[DBW]

Spoken like a true university student. I'm curious to know whether or not you live with your parents?

Yes. And if I didn't I'd re-adjust my spendings to wipe out all my other unneccesary expenses, and I'd save up for the Dragon Boxes regardless. Why? Because that's what I really want. And if it's a failure in the end? Oh well, at least I saved up a decent amount of cash to spend on something else I'll enjoy. I simply wouldn't allow myself to get into a bad financial situation, and if I was I wouldn't give two shits about a Dragon Box anyways.

And don't worry, the very fact that I can still do the job I do, shows that I can have a positive outlook on things.

You said that people's pets get sick and die, and that that's more important than a box set. Of course, I completely agree with this, but it makes me wonder what exactly you were trying to say? Personally, I got a very negative spin out of it, so I assumed you were going somewhere else with it. It's like if I said that people get into car crashes and that's more important than DragonBall. Obviously, but it makes it sound like people who enjoy DragonBall are uncaring or something.

"if you're a truly dedicated fan, you should be willing and happy to work at getting these boxes". I didn't like that and thought it was judgemental.

I wouldn't say "if you're a truly dedicated fan", but I would agree that if you're truly dedicated to getting the box, then yeah, you should be willing and happy to work at getting them. How else would you? I worked exteremely hard at earning the money to buy the boxes, and I don't see anything wrong with telling people that they're capable of doing it too. I'm not gonna tell people "Oh yeah, it's hopeless, just give up and go home."

And guess what? Sometimes people can't even afford to keep a reserve of emergency cash.

Once again, if this is the case, then why would you even be thinking about Dragon Boxes? Incase you're not aware, I'm only talking about people who actually want a Dragon Box. I know that everybody on Earth can't afford $500, but if you're on this message board, and truly want a box, you have plenty of time to start saving up. The movie box doesn't ship until next summer, and if you really want it, you can at least make an attempt at saving up for what you love. If you know it's financially unrealistic, then you should be smart enough to realize that you simply can't afford such a luxury.

...but just don't presume it's as easy and cut and dry for everybody.

I never said it was easy, and I never said it was cut and dry. I said it was possible, and I'm not about to tell anybody any different. Sorry.

PS: I don't think this conversation is off topic. It's a good debate about the challenges and reality of owning these box sets. I'd like to hear more opinions on the matter!

[Jerseymilk]

And don't worry, the very fact that I can still do the job I do, shows that I can have a positive outlook on things.

You said that people's pets get sick and die, and that that's more important than a box set. Of course, I completely agree with this, but it makes me wonder what exactly you were trying to say? Personally, I got a very negative spin out of it, so I assumed you were going somewhere else with it. It's like if I said that people get into car crashes and that's more important than DragonBall. Obviously, but it makes it sound like people who enjoy DragonBall are uncaring or something.

Then you misunderstood my point. What I meant was that many people can't even afford to shell out $500 when it's a much more dire situation like a sick and dying pet and that's how strapped for cash some people are in their lives. And it was in response too to the concept that for things like the Dragonboxes, you have to plop down the entire amount right away, just like at my work. It was comparison. Yes a lot of people can save up or do payment plans, but can't manage a large amount all at one time.

As I said before I agree with you that if you want a luxury item, then you should work for it and not expect to catch a break. My point was more that I hate the attitude that I hear with people sometimes, like "Why's he making a big deal about that cost? It's only $200 or whatever." And to some people that's a lot of money. Some people on here, not necessarily you, just came off as sounding a little bit arrogant.

[denitonis]

Well I support DBW in this matter. (and not just because I'm a student too)
But not considering the Dragonboxes it is a fact that people don't look forward enough,
if you have a pet you should expect costs since it is you duty to care for it,
the same applies to household machines, children your house and whatnot.

You should always have emergency cash that you don't count as money that you have. instead of living on credit what more and more people seem to do.

So if you got your unexpected costs covered than you can think of saving up for luxury items,
off-course there is always the matter of bad luck where several cost might show up together but even then you would be somewhat prepared.

I myself keep financial stats that don't go further than a year,
as of now I am in luck that I got a part-time job so I can save up for my cost for the coming months and some luxury,
my choice is the next Dragonball box yet I chose not to buy a car or other comfortable items but I could all in a sudden lose my job and have to let the box pass by since my first obligations are to my studies and primary living conditions.

And off-course there are always people who have to struggle to keep up,
but frankly I don't suppose they see DVD's or Internet as a primary cost so they will not complain here.

So they are not the ones this all is directed too.

[skatezeppelin]

How many people here can understand japanese and want to buy the Dragon Boxes for use and not a collectors item?

[Conan the SSJ]

Three reasons why I have no wish of getting the Dragonboxes

1: NO Subtitles
2: Extremly Expensive
3: All the buyer is getting that FUNi doesn't give are the Openings/Endings with their Kanji, the next-EP previews, and the video quality remastered.

Hell, even the GT series of FUNi's is 100% Uncut equivelant to the GT Dragonbox of Toei's, with the Small exception of the Goku Jr. special (which had it's "TV Special" tag, theme song, and eye-catchers removed).

[DBW]

Some people on here, not necessarily you, just came off as sounding a little bit arrogant.

Well, I think I initially did, so I apologise for that. I think we weren't really understanding eachother or something, but I'll just let you know that my intentions weren't meant to be negative or insensitive, so again I'll apologise if I came across that way.

How many people here can understand japanese and want to buy the Dragon Boxes for use and not a collectors item?

I have them because they're a collector's item, but I also watch them all the time, and can proudly say that I've watched all 508 episodes of DragonBall in proper oder, completely uncut (and sadly I've actually done it, too ). I've also been using them to collect information on the series and have partnered up to start a DragonBall information database website.

I guess it really all depends on your own circumstances whether or not these boxes are really worth the money for you.

[Son Goku]

I have them because they're a collector's item, but I also watch them all the time, and can proudly say that I've watched all 508 episodes of DragonBall in proper oder, completely uncut (and sadly I've actually done it, too ). I've also been using them to collect information on the series and have partnered up to start a DragonBall information database website.

Actually, it's 507 episodes uncut with GT 64 slightly edited.

[Bejiita]

I personally would not purchase a Dragonbox, way too much money, and I'm not saying the sum is that great, not at all, but for DBZ episodes, it is.

Fair enough, it's the best quality of DBZ you can get, but before the webmaster done that review and compared the differences between Funi's releases and the DBOX, I didn't know that there was all this grain, or that there was a remastered version with crystal clear visuals. So when people find out about this, they go for it.

And yes, no subs, that's a feature they could have done, why they didn't I don't know, it's one of the main reasons lots of people do not purchase them(and yes, even if they had subs, I still wouldn't buy them).

If I had money to (literally) 'throw away' then I would have bought them, but I don't, so DBOX's are out of my reach(far out too, I don't have a Credit Card anyway).

Also, the limited factor about these boxes makes people want them even more, I even jumped the gun real quick and thought, 'Crap! I can't get one even if i wanted too!', then I realised that I wouldn't buy it anyway.

Long story short, if you are well off, enjoy the high quality DBZ action, if you get standard wages and work hard for it too, then, well, at least you can look at the box set and think 'Ahh, I worked hard for that'. If you can't afford it, screw it, you don't need them.

I think this new idea of putting fewer episode per disk and for a price of $35(which comes to about 30 quid English money or so) is a great idea, and people can now get the high quality episode that they want, or need or whatever.

[Jerseymilk]

Some people on here, not necessarily you, just came off as sounding a little bit arrogant.

Well, I think I initially did, so I apologise for that. I think we weren't really understanding eachother or something, but I'll just let you know that my intentions weren't meant to be negative or insensitive, so again I'll apologise if I came across that way.

Don't sweat it. As I've kept repeating, I agree with everyone that says people should plan ahead and be financially wise. I myself only have one credit card with a $500 limit specifically because I find it's so easy for people to spend with them and get in debt. I just wanted to be that little voice to remind people about it, that's all. And I apologize myself if I came of as an "Oscar the Grouch". Though I did enjoy debating with you as you're definitely a worthy opponent.

[lost in thought]

How many people here can understand japanese and want to buy the Dragon Boxes for use and not a collectors item?

Well, here, there are quite a few who have a moderate understanding of the language, which makes being a fan of the un-dubbed DBZ all the more beneficial. As far a collectors item, the DragonBox is a dual purpose novelty; it's a collectors item first, and an entire series of dvds second.

Three reasons why I have no wish of getting the Dragonboxes

1: NO Subtitles
2: Extremly Expensive
3: All the buyer is getting that FUNi doesn't give are the Openings/Endings with their Kanji, the next-EP previews, and the video quality remastered.

You don't really need subtitles too enjoy it. Hell, I rarely use subtitles when I watch the FUNimation released dvd's these days, it doesn't detract from viewing what-so-ever; in fact, it heightens it.

Subtitles are good, and all that, especially Mr. Simmons' subtitles, but you really don't need them to enjoy DBZ. DBZ in and of itself, is quite predictable, so it isn't hard to get into the series if you don't understand what is being said, and furthermore, if you've seen it dubbed, it becomes really easy to understand, since you pretty much know how everythings going to turn out, and a lot of the emotion behind the scenes, and stuff. It all comes down to enjoying the original seiyuu.

[Rocketman]

I personally get a kick out of muting DBZ and making up my own lines.

[Magnaboss]

And yes, no subs, that's a feature they could have done, why they didn't I don't know, it's one of the main reasons lots of people do not purchase them(and yes, even if they had subs, I still wouldn't buy them).

Because since this is a Japanese release aimed at the Japanese, it'd be kinda pointless to produce English subtitles, since the actual ammount of people importing these either don't care, or don't make up a significant ammount of people purchasing these boxes.