Broli, Cooler, Majin Buu and others in the alternate world

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Broli, Cooler, Majin Buu and others in the alternate world

Post by Dorexx » Sun Dec 26, 2010 3:31 am

When it comes to movies, I know many people say they are not canon to the manga, so they just don't count. I'm the type of fan who loves to count pretty much everything in the DB world. Well maybe not exactly everything...

Anyway, what in your opinion happened to characters like Cooler, Android 13, 14 and 15, Broli, Janemba, Tapion and Hirudegarn, and of course Babidi, Dabura and Buu, in the alternate world of Trunks? (not the original one where Cell came from)


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Post by p123 » Sun Dec 26, 2010 4:03 am

I have FF Cooler ~ Dabura level, Meta Cooler ~ Perfect Cell , Super 13 ~ Android 16 level, Bojack ~ Perfect Cell , LSSJ Broly Movie 10 ~ Kid Buu level.



Although the movie powers in comparison to canon powers are highly highly debated. But there is definitley a basis for were I placed them at, and no of course I do not like them , it's just taken what is given in the movies seriously. Hell I think Videl could very well be way way above Freeza's power based on her feats against Broly and Hiredugram..

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Dec 26, 2010 4:28 am

Dude, p123, he wasn't asking about how you thought they related to other characters power wise. He wants to know what you think happened to them in Trunks timeline, since the movies would be forced to play out so very differently due to the fact that only Trunks is alive...(and then not even him in some of the darker timelines like Cell's.).

Something akin to: "Would Hildegarn be revived since Piccolo was killed?" or "Did Babidi take Buu to another planet before reviving him since there were so few humans?"
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Re: Broli, Cooler, Majin Buu and others in the alternate world

Post by Super Vegito » Sun Dec 26, 2010 11:31 am

Broly would break out of Paragus's control and go on a rampage. Cooler (if he isn't already dead?) would be killed by him. Broly would destroy the Androids. Meanwhile Babidi would go to another planet to revive Buu. Buu would kill/absorb Broly once they crossed paths. Buu would defeat Jenemba (if he became Super Buu or absorbed Broly). Hirudegarn would also be defeated (Buu absorbtions-> Super Buu-> SSJ 3 Goku-> Hirudegarn).

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Dec 26, 2010 3:36 pm

I'm going to play the whole "If everything is canon" game. I doubt Bojack exist in Trunks Timeline since King Kai's Planet was never destroyed, and I'm not sure about #13-15 since the chances are that they might never exist in Trunks universe. If Metal Cooler does exist then the chances are that he would have taken over Namke, and use the Dragon Balls to make him Immortal. I'm pretty sure Broly did what he did in Movie 8 where he fly across space, and blew up Planet & Stars until the South Galaxy was no more.

Without the Dragon Balls on Earth then Hirudegarn would never be released which means we would have no idea how popular he is. I'm pretty sure AW Broly and Cooler might be a bit stronger then they are in Goku's timeline. USSJ2 Trunks might take down Broly, but I doubt it though.
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Re: Broli, Cooler, Majin Buu and others in the alternate world

Post by Dorexx » Sun Dec 26, 2010 4:19 pm

Yes, since Goku was already dead, there was no point in awakening Android 13, 14 and 15.

As for Cooler, I suppose he did come to Earth sometime before Goku died of the heart disease, and was defeated. After becoming Meta Cooler, he attacks the new Planet Namek killing every namekian and absorbing the planet. (I also like to believe that this could be the reason why Bulma couldn't use the namekian dragon balls) After that, I guess he does whatever he wants, maybe establish a new Cooler Empire or something, if he doesn't want revenge. Goku is dead anyway. (then again, his old Empire was still there)

Broli however, would probably still go on with destroying planets. Vegeta is dead so Paragus doesn't come to Earth. Broli continues with his rampage until the Kaios and King Enma decide to send someone (like Pikkon) to stop him.

I see no possible way for Hoi to open Tapion's music box, but if he did somehow, they would save the day by killing Tapion. (or Tapion killing himself)
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Post by cpd12589 » Sun Dec 26, 2010 9:44 pm

Dorexx wrote:When it comes to movies, I know many people say they are not canon to the manga, so they just don't count. I'm the type of fan who loves to count pretty much everything in the DB world. Well maybe not exactly everything...

Anyway, what in your opinion happened to characters like Cooler, Android 13, 14 and 15, Broli, Janemba, Tapion and Hirudegarn, and of course Babidi, Dabura and Buu, in the alternate world of Trunks? (not the original one where Cell came from)


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I just think those characters just never came into the picture in Future Trunks's timeline. I mean the Earth in his time is very different and pretty much destroyed so there would be no reason for people like Paragus to want to take it over or Babidi to gather power from there and etc.

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Re: Broli, Cooler, Majin Buu and others in the alternate world

Post by Senzu_Bean » Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:11 am

Coola would take his old role and continue to rule planets and that stuff. Kaioshin would probably kill Broly if he continued destroying planets like a maniac. I guess Janemba would probably still exist but maybe weaker since a lot of baddies wouldn't be dead. But still he would destroy the entire universe.

I guess the rest wouldn't be a threat since Goku wouldn't be alive.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:53 am

Senzu_Bean wrote:Coola would take his old role and continue to rule planets and that stuff. Kaioshin would probably kill Broly if he continued destroying planets like a maniac. I guess Janemba would probably still exist but maybe weaker since a lot of baddies wouldn't be dead. But still he would destroy the entire universe.

I guess the rest wouldn't be a threat since Goku wouldn't be alive.
Movie 12 takes place in hell with a dead Goku fighting against the monster, Goku is also dead in Trunks timeline. Seeing how Earth was plagued with the Jinzoningen in 767 and it seems they have been the only threat up until 788 when Trunks kills Cell, we can assume none of the other villains have attacked earth and some of them may not have even been created or released elsewhere by then either. So even if Janenba is created in 789, Goku would have had at least 22 years to train while dead. That's 3 times longer than between Cell and Buu, and look at how many tricks he pulled out of that training session.

I would feel very comfortable guessing that Goku in Trunks timeline is probably very VERY close to the Godku Toei constantly creates in filler and movies, though he would only be helpful for threats in the afterlife.
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Re: Broli, Cooler, Majin Buu and others in the alternate world

Post by p123 » Sat Jan 01, 2011 12:08 pm

Senzu_Bean wrote:Coola would take his old role and continue to rule planets and that stuff.

Agreed. Until he runs into Dabura, and fights evenly with him until he gets spit on...

Senzu_Bean wrote:Kaioshin would probably kill Broly if he continued destroying planets like a maniac.

Kaioshin got nothing for Broly. If Kaioshin is scared of Dabura, what the hell is he going to do against a monster like Broly.

Senzu_Bean wrote:I guess the rest wouldn't be a threat since Goku wouldn't be alive.

Goku is certainly not needed. He is extremely weak in comparison to Gotenks and Gohan. Goku is not needed at all post end of z.

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