DragonBall Z Kai - Cable TV Version (NickToons)

Discussion specifically regarding the "refreshed" TV version of DBZ created in Japan for its 20th anniversary, including individual threads for each episode.

Moderators: Kanzenshuu Staff, General Help

User avatar
ohaimynameiserik
Regular
Posts: 658
Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:08 am
Location: Ohio

Re: DragonBall Z Kai Cable TV Version (NickToons) Edits! *Ep

Post by ohaimynameiserik » Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:24 pm

sailorspazz wrote:It looks to me like the orange blood could have been a result not of innovation, but out of necessity. Looking at the side by side comparisons, from both this and other episodes, it seems like they just pick the color they are changing and apply it to the entire shot (for example, I noticed that if there were blood edits and the character's mouth was open, the inside of their mouth looked less red than usual). In this episode, it looks like they ran into a problem with Reacoom's hair being too close to the red they were trying to change. They may have tried changing the red to black/brown, but it also messed with Reacoom's hair color, so they had to try something else.
Why do I think this? Observe Tanooki's side by side shot:
Image
Notice how Reacoom's hair looks like a lighter shade of orange in the edited version? It looks close to the color of the edited blood, right? That's why I think they had to change the color of edited blood to something different than their normal practice, because it would have altered Reacoom's hair too noticeably. As for why everyone else has orange blood, too, they probably just did the same thing for everyone in this episode to keep it simpler for the editors. I don't remember if it goes back to dried blood/dirt in the later episodes, or if it stays orange from here on out....

And this has been your completely random observation for the day.
It's the same reason for one of Freeza's eyes to occasionally be a bluish gray, later.

MetroidJunkie
Beyond Newbie
Posts: 162
Joined: Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:47 pm
Location: Antananarivo, Madagascar

Re: DragonBall Z Kai Cable TV Version (NickToons) Edits! *Ep

Post by MetroidJunkie » Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:22 am

Image

If that's true, why isn't his hair noticeably more orange in this shot? Seems to just be random. :?

User avatar
Big Momma
Born 'n Bred Here
Posts: 5153
Joined: Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:21 pm
Location: The Crossroads

Re: DragonBall Z Kai Cable TV Version (NickToons) Edits! *Ep

Post by Big Momma » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:10 am

^It is, at least...as far as I can tell.

Then again, that screenshot doesn't have much hair, so you can't really go off of that.
Rocketman(In response to a post about Pandora's Box) wrote: I sat here for ten damn minutes wondering what the hell God of War had to do with any of this.
Insertclevername wrote:I plan to lose my virginity to Dragon Box 2.
Youtube | Art/Animation Blog

User avatar
Tanooki Kuribo
I Live Here
Posts: 4563
Joined: Wed Sep 08, 2004 12:23 am
Location: Manhattan, New York
Contact:

Re: DragonBall Z Kai Cable TV Version (NickToons) Edits! *Ep

Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:56 am

You know, I thought the same thing for like the longest time I thought maybe it was just me or my screen settings.
Last edited by Tanooki Kuribo on Thu Jan 06, 2011 6:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.

MetroidJunkie
Beyond Newbie
Posts: 162
Joined: Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:47 pm
Location: Antananarivo, Madagascar

Re: DragonBall Z Kai Cable TV Version (NickToons) Edits! *Ep

Post by MetroidJunkie » Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:12 pm

Big Momma wrote:^It is, at least...as far as I can tell.

Then again, that screenshot doesn't have much hair, so you can't really go off of that.
Any subtle change certainly isn't as obvious as the blood is.

User avatar
Tanooki Kuribo
I Live Here
Posts: 4563
Joined: Wed Sep 08, 2004 12:23 am
Location: Manhattan, New York
Contact:

Re: DragonBall Z Kai Cable TV Version (NickToons) Edits! *Ep

Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:23 pm

Goku Arrives at Last! Take Down the Ginyu Force!

A little bit of the episode starts before the opening and title screen....

As Goku lands he tries to pin point Gohan and Krillin. When he does the TV version shows a less brutal image of Gohan...

Image

Goku then says to himself...

Image

The episode starts soon after...

Image

I should note that all the blood edits from the previous episode carry over to this one, along with Reacoom's bare ass being edited.

As Goku lands at the battle field, Vegeta says to himself...

Image

Goku walks over to Gohan, there is a close up shot that is edited in the TV version to look less violent. His pupils are now colored in...

Image

Goku tries feeding Gohan a Senzu bean but it dosen't work. Goku says...

Image

Stunned by the quick recovery, Jheees says...

Image

Goku walks over to Reacoom, Reacoom yells to Jheese and Burta...

Image

After hearing Goku's power level is only around 5,000 Reacoom says "Oh wait..." going on to say...

Image

The TV version cuts the scene short which is why the TV version dialogue is shorter. This kind of edit happens a few times in this episode alone.

Reacoom lunges at Goku and yells...

Image

The thing with this edit is, Reacoom says "Now feel the power of Reacoom!" right before he throws the punch. So in the TV version it sounds like he's yelling out an attack called "Reacoom Punch".

Goku seems to disappear and reappear behind Burta and Jhees. After seeing a sample of Goku's speed, Reacoom says...

Image

Reacoom powers up an attack, but this time Goku elbows him knocking him to the ground. There is a 2 second shot of Reacoom's bare ass edited out...

Image

Meanwhile Vegeta is pissed off about what's happened to Goku, he thinks he's become a Super Saiyan...

Image

Goku yells to Burta and Jheese, giving them a chance to leave. Also, there appears to be an animation flaw...

Image

Burta talks to Jheese a bit, this scene was also cut short for TV, omiting the rest of the original line...

Image

Burta and Jheese fly back and forth past Goku, eventually landing right by him. At this point Goku punches Jheese right in the face. This, along with a some back and forth dialogue was edited out.

Image

Right before Goku pushes Jheese and Burta back from a kiai, Burta says...

Image

Getting annoyed at not being able to lay a finger on Goku, Burta says...

Image

Meanwhile, Bulma is wondering what's going on with Krillin and Gohan.

Image

Burta and Jheese come up with a plan, Jheese will throw his Crusher Ball and when Goku moves out of the way Burta will attack. While the Crusher Ball is heading towards Goku, Burta yells out...

Image

But instead of dodging, Goku deflects it. Goku appears behind Burta, there is a little dialogue back and forth, some of it was edited out. Mostly the second part of the conversation.

Image

Burta starts hand to hand combat with Goku, seeing this, Jheese yells out...

Image

Yea, that scene was also cut short a bit.

Proving to be way to fast for the two of them, Jheese and Burta accidentally hit each other...

Image

Goku now goes on the attack, kicking Burta breaking his armor. He then elbows him, knocking him downward. The hit was edited with a flash and Burta's reaction was cut all together...

Image

Image

Which is funny because in the next episode recap of this episode, this shot is in tact...

Image

But, maybe I'm getting ahead of myself here, we'll get to that in episode 32.

So Goku catches Burta right as he's about to hit the ground. This is pretty much the same thing to Nappa but for some reason when he did it to Nappa it was cut out.

Goku throws Burta to the ground and the episode ends.
Last edited by Tanooki Kuribo on Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:06 am, edited 2 times in total.

User avatar
Great Saiyaman I
Regular
Posts: 726
Joined: Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:34 pm

Re: DragonBall Z Kai Cable TV Version (NickToons) Edits! *Ep

Post by Great Saiyaman I » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:51 pm

Maggot is probably a racial slur in a dead language. We don't want to offend the Meslocians.
-The Great Saiyaman
Herms wrote:
Nex Carnifex wrote:Herms can you translate the whole thing
No.

User avatar
Ringworm128
Banned
Posts: 2976
Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:27 am

Re: DragonBall Z Kai Cable TV Version (NickToons) Edits! *Ep

Post by Ringworm128 » Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:56 am

Tanooki Kuribo wrote:






Image
Someone needs to make a avatar out of this.

User avatar
dbgtFO
Kicks it Old-School
Posts: 7941
Joined: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:07 pm
Contact:

Re: DragonBall Z Kai Cable TV Version (NickToons) Edits! *Ep

Post by dbgtFO » Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:30 am

Tanooki Kuribo wrote:Stunned by the quick recovery, Jheees says...
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b90/t ... m47s93.png

Burta talks to Jheese a bit, this scene was also cut short for TV, omiting the rest of the original line...
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b90/t ... nidiot.png
Okay a little off topic here, but I couldn't help but notice the difference between these shots. Does the first one have some digital blur added or something? Because I can't really figure out why it looks so weird to my eyes. :?

User avatar
dragondyle
OMG CRAZY REGEN
Posts: 936
Joined: Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:37 am
Location: Arizona
Contact:

Re: DragonBall Z Kai Cable TV Version (NickToons) Edits! *Ep

Post by dragondyle » Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:52 am

ringworm128 wrote:
Tanooki Kuribo wrote: *snip*
Someone needs to make a avatar out of this.
Done. ^_^

Image

I couldn't help but put pupils on my version. xD I call him "Buta-blarg!"
dbgtFO wrote:
Tanooki Kuribo wrote:Stunned by the quick recovery, Jheees says...
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b90/t ... m47s93.png

Burta talks to Jheese a bit, this scene was also cut short for TV, omiting the rest of the original line...
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b90/t ... nidiot.png
Okay a little off topic here, but I couldn't help but notice the difference between these shots. Does the first one have some digital blur added or something? Because I can't really figure out why it looks so weird to my eyes. :?
Those are the "reanimated" scenes for Kai. People have a problem with them because they stand out so much with that "digital blur" and and also that "flash animation" look it.
"You must have faith in who you are." - Gohan (Dragonball Evolution)

User avatar
dbgtFO
Kicks it Old-School
Posts: 7941
Joined: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:07 pm
Contact:

Re: DragonBall Z Kai Cable TV Version (NickToons) Edits! *Ep

Post by dbgtFO » Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:04 am

dragondyle wrote:
dbgtFO wrote:Okay a little off topic here, but I couldn't help but notice the difference between these shots. Does the first one have some digital blur added or something? Because I can't really figure out why it looks so weird to my eyes. :?
Those are the "reanimated" scenes for Kai. People have a problem with them because they stand out so much with that "digital blur" and and also that "flash animation" look it.
Thank you!
And yeah they are kinda annoying to my eyes with that blur and all, but let's not get into that :wink:

User avatar
dragondyle
OMG CRAZY REGEN
Posts: 936
Joined: Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:37 am
Location: Arizona
Contact:

Re: DragonBall Z Kai Cable TV Version (NickToons) Edits! *Ep

Post by dragondyle » Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:15 am

dbgtFO wrote:
dragondyle wrote:
dbgtFO wrote:Okay a little off topic here, but I couldn't help but notice the difference between these shots. Does the first one have some digital blur added or something? Because I can't really figure out why it looks so weird to my eyes. :?
Those are the "reanimated" scenes for Kai. People have a problem with them because they stand out so much with that "digital blur" and and also that "flash animation" look it.
Thank you!
And yeah they are kinda annoying to my eyes with that blur and all, but let's not get into that :wink:
No problem! Haha, yeah that is for another topic. :wink:
So, how bout that there editing? lol
But seriously, something I did notice:

Image

If they just edited out the blood and coloured in his pupils here, why didn't they do that in the earlier shots of this?
"You must have faith in who you are." - Gohan (Dragonball Evolution)

User avatar
Rawring Ninja
Newbie
Posts: 27
Joined: Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:05 pm

Re: DragonBall Z Kai Cable TV Version (NickToons) Edits! *Ep

Post by Rawring Ninja » Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:35 am

dragondyle wrote: So, how bout that there editing? lol
But seriously, something I did notice:

Image

If they just edited out the blood and coloured in his pupils here, why didn't they do that in the earlier shots of this?
You mean "earlier shots" as in this?
Image

Cause if this is what you're referring to, my guess would be that this is a bit brutal, whether blood is edited or not. I mean, imagine if you were seven years old and your mom walked in the living room to see a small boy, who's younger than you, with a snapped neck because he was beat down by adults? Wouldn't look to good on Nicktoons' part. So they took that out altogether.

And if that wasn't what you're referring to, I just typed all that for nothing. <.<;;
Air is only important when you don't have any.

User avatar
dan2026
Beyond-the-Beyond Newbie
Posts: 313
Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:59 am

Re: DragonBall Z Kai Cable TV Version (NickToons) Edits! *Ep

Post by dan2026 » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:14 am

So apparently you can't say 'idiot' or 'maggot' anymore.
This dub is crazytown.

ChampionofTime
Beyond Newbie
Posts: 108
Joined: Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:14 pm

Re: DragonBall Z Kai Cable TV Version (NickToons) Edits! *Ep

Post by ChampionofTime » Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:39 pm

"PUNCH!" seems a really weird thing to say when you're about to hit someone, fair enough he was going to punch him but still that's like me shouting "FOOD!" when I see a pizza. Oh wait I do that, best shut up now :)

User avatar
Tanooki Kuribo
I Live Here
Posts: 4563
Joined: Wed Sep 08, 2004 12:23 am
Location: Manhattan, New York
Contact:

Re: DragonBall Z Kai Cable TV Version (NickToons) Edits! *Ep

Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:17 pm

dragondyle wrote:=I couldn't help but put pupils on my version. xD I call him "Buta-blarg!"
Ha, ha... you know, I was messing with that screen shot before I put this comparison together. I also added pupils but then added some "flair" to make it look like some kind of crazy Japanese commercial for toothpaste or something...

Image

User avatar
dbgtFO
Kicks it Old-School
Posts: 7941
Joined: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:07 pm
Contact:

Re: DragonBall Z Kai Cable TV Version (NickToons) Edits! *Ep

Post by dbgtFO » Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:27 pm

This reminds of an old episode of Simpsons for some reason...
Also great edit! It's hilarious :lol:

User avatar
Budogenkai
OMG CRAZY REGEN
Posts: 771
Joined: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:21 am
Location: Ohio

Re: DragonBall Z Kai Cable TV Version (NickToons) Edits! *Ep

Post by Budogenkai » Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:10 pm

dbgtFO wrote:
This reminds of an old episode of Simpsons for some reason...
Also great edit! It's hilarious :lol:

That's exactly what I thought too xD
PSN: Genkaidomo
360: Bhuda64

http://www.youtube.com/BurritoNchips

anyone know where I can get a good cheap mic?

User avatar
Piccolo Daimao
Kicks it Old-School
Posts: 8749
Joined: Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:23 am

Re: DragonBall Z Kai Cable TV Version (NickToons) Edits! *Ep

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:16 pm

dbgtFO wrote:
This reminds of an old episode of Simpsons for some reason...
Image

The episode "In Marge We Trust", in which Homer finds he bears a similarity to the face on the box of "Mr Sparkle" and its Japanese commercial. Just thought I'd tell you that. :)

But yeah, that's a brilliant edit, Tanooki Kuribo! I cracked the fuck up. :lol:
Holden Caulfield in [b][i]The Catcher in the Rye[/i][/b] wrote:I hope to hell when I do die somebody has sense enough to just dump me in the river or something. Anything except sticking me in a goddam cemetery. People coming and putting a bunch of flowers on your stomach on Sunday, and all that crap. Who wants flowers when you're dead? Nobody.

User avatar
dbgtFO
Kicks it Old-School
Posts: 7941
Joined: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:07 pm
Contact:

Re: DragonBall Z Kai Cable TV Version (NickToons) Edits! *Ep

Post by dbgtFO » Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:31 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:
dbgtFO wrote:
This reminds of an old episode of Simpsons for some reason...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e ... parkle.png

The episode "In Marge We Trust", in which Homer finds he bears a similarity to the face on the box of "Mr Sparkle" and its Japanese commercial. Just thought I'd tell you that. :)

But yeah, that's a brilliant edit, Tanooki Kuribo! I cracked the fuck up. :lol:
Yep that's the one I had in mind xD

Post Reply