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Re: "Dragon Ball Kai: Ultimate Butōden" Discussion

Post by songohan619 » Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:05 pm

How many Characters are left to be announced?
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Post by Makaioshin » Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:31 pm

Assuming linkdude20002001 named all of the confirmed characters, there are 6 spots left(52 slots are on the website). I'm hoping Garlic Jr. makes his first appearance in a 2D fighter.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Kai: Ultimate Butōden" Discussion

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:13 pm

I think the last six spots might be:

1. Coola
2. Metal Coola
3. Dabra
4. Paikuhan
5. Cui
6. Janemba

Both Coola and Janemba are very popular characters, the chances of them in the game are very likely.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Kai: Ultimate Butōden" Discussion

Post by Makaioshin » Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:22 pm

After looking at it again, the characters which appear on the box art but we haven't seen any in-game footage of yet are Recoome, Batta, and Jheese. They'll probably be playable.
I'm guessing the other two will be Coola and Ultimate/Mystic/Kaioshin Powered-up Son Gohan.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Kai: Ultimate Butōden" Discussion

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:50 pm

Makaioshin wrote:After looking at it again, the characters which appear on the box art but we haven't seen any in-game footage of yet are Recoome, Batta, and Jheese. They'll probably be playable.
I'm guessing the other two will be Coola and Ultimate/Mystic/Kaioshin Powered-up Son Gohan.
You forgot 16.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Kai: Ultimate Butōden" Discussion

Post by Makaioshin » Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:51 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
Makaioshin wrote:After looking at it again, the characters which appear on the box art but we haven't seen any in-game footage of yet are Recoome, Batta, and Jheese. They'll probably be playable.
I'm guessing the other two will be Coola and Ultimate/Mystic/Kaioshin Powered-up Son Gohan.
You forgot 16.
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Post by songohan619 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:38 pm

Where can i preorder this?
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Post by Makaioshin » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:41 pm

songohan619 wrote:Where can i preorder this?
There has been no word of a North American or European release of this game yet so you can't pre-order those versions. I don't know anything about pre-ordering Japanese games so I can't help you there.

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Post by linkdude20002001 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:01 pm

songohan619 wrote:Where can i preorder this?
Amazon! :D
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:49 pm

I still hope to see a US release date soon by end of the month maybe. It looks like we are going to get some good DS games this year with games such as Ultimate Butoden, KH: Coded, and Black & White version. It looks like I need to clean off my DS soon since I have not played it in months.
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Hellspawn28 wrote:I still hope to see a US release date soon by end of the month maybe. It looks like we are going to get some good DS games this year with games such as Ultimate Butoden, KH: Coded, and Black & White version. It looks like I need to clean off my DS soon since I have not played it in months.
Its just for me that the 3DS is coming within three months in the US, and I hope that Namco Bandai will find it worth it to release it over here... I guess there will still be a big DS market... but still
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:31 pm

They still made GBA games after the DS came out in 2004, the DS will likely last for another two or three more years. Also the 3DS can play DS games as well.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Kai: Ultimate Butōden" Discussion

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Hellspawn28 wrote:They still made GBA games after the DS came out in 2004, the DS will likely last for another two or three more years. Also the 3DS can play DS games as well.
Though back in '04, Nintendo didn't intend the DS to be a successor to the GBA, but more of an alternative. Eventually they figured the DS was popular and decided to end the Game Boy brand. But, I'm saying that we don't know if Namco Bandai will find it worth it to release it when they can, since you do have to consider how long it will take to localize it for US (though I hope they keep the Japanese voices... that could save time :mrgreen: )
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Hellspawn28 wrote:They still made GBA games after the DS came out in 2004, the DS will likely last for another two or three more years. Also the 3DS can play DS games as well.
Though back in '04, Nintendo didn't intend the DS to be a successor to the GBA, but more of an alternative. Eventually they figured the DS was popular and decided to end the Game Boy brand. But, I'm saying that we don't know if Namco Bandai will find it worth it to release it when they can, since you do have to consider how long it will take to localize it for US (though I hope they keep the Japanese voices... that could save time :mrgreen: )

I'm sorry sir, but where are you getting your facts from? Of course Nintendo intended for the DS to be the GBA's successor. It was not an "alternative" but rather the next step. They dropped the Gameboy title because they wanted to market it as it's own branch. Nintendo considered it the "New Gameboy." The "DS" title actually came from the code name used for systems under development(for example Kinect's codename was Natal); it stood for Developer's System but the name eventually stuck and it now stands for "Double Screen"

http://www.n-sider.com/contentview.php?contentid=515
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_DS
http://gbatemp.net/lofiversion/index.php?t260895.html

Most gaming companies almost always support the older systems for at least another year and this is because it's still easy to make a profit. You pointed it out yourself, there is already a market for DS games so there is no need to waste time in effort to port the game over to the 3DS.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Kai: Ultimate Butōden" Discussion

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I'm sorry sir, but where are you getting your facts from? Of course Nintendo intended for the DS to be the GBA's successor. It was not an "alternative" but rather the next step. They dropped the Gameboy title because they wanted to market it as it's own branch. Nintendo considered it the "New Gameboy." The "DS" title actually came from the code name used for systems under development(for example Kinect's codename was Natal); it stood for Developer's System but the name eventually stuck and it now stands for "Double Screen"

http://www.n-sider.com/contentview.php?contentid=515
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_DS
http://gbatemp.net/lofiversion/index.php?t260895.html

Most gaming companies almost always support the older systems for at least another year and this is because it's still easy to make a profit. You pointed it out yourself, there is already a market for DS games so there is no need to waste time in effort to port the game over to the 3DS.
My sources: Nintendo Power and IGN. Damn straight. Anyways, the DS was called as the "third pillar" for Nintendo at gaming expos, intending for it to be a third console to run with the GBA and Gamecube (which is even mentioned in that N-Sider article you have). For one, Ninendo wasn't even confident that its features would be accepted, and you could see that the first full year or two were a "test run". And if you look at the Gamecube and Wii, the last game that Nintendo made for the Gamecube (Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess) came less than a month after the Wii came out. The Wii was originally intended as a successor while the DS was more of an experiment. As this article said, if Nintendo was confident enough with the console early on, we may all be playing our "Game Boy DS"s right now (and maybe anticipating a Game Boy 3DS?). While this is all nice and dandy I know, the true question is, whether or not Nintendo supports the DS for much longer, is that considering how long it takes to localize Ultimate Butōden, would Namco Bandai find it worth it to release it, possibly well in to the new hotness' lifetime? I'm not saying that they won't do it, I'm saying that I just don't know.
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metamoss wrote:
SparkyPantsMcGee wrote:
I'm sorry sir, but where are you getting your facts from? Of course Nintendo intended for the DS to be the GBA's successor. It was not an "alternative" but rather the next step. They dropped the Gameboy title because they wanted to market it as it's own branch. Nintendo considered it the "New Gameboy." The "DS" title actually came from the code name used for systems under development(for example Kinect's codename was Natal); it stood for Developer's System but the name eventually stuck and it now stands for "Double Screen"

http://www.n-sider.com/contentview.php?contentid=515
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_DS
http://gbatemp.net/lofiversion/index.php?t260895.html

Most gaming companies almost always support the older systems for at least another year and this is because it's still easy to make a profit. You pointed it out yourself, there is already a market for DS games so there is no need to waste time in effort to port the game over to the 3DS.
My sources: Nintendo Power and IGN. Damn straight.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Kai: Ultimate Butōden" Discussion

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Great Saiyaman I wrote:
metamoss wrote:
My sources: Nintendo Power and IGN. Damn straight.
*high five*

I was just reminded of the 3DS. Sorry Ultimate Butoden, you're getting the shaft from me.
I'm still gonna buy it, even considering the 3DS. Because we might not hear of the DB game for it in awhile, anyway.
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metamoss wrote:
SparkyPantsMcGee wrote:
I'm sorry sir, but where are you getting your facts from? Of course Nintendo intended for the DS to be the GBA's successor. It was not an "alternative" but rather the next step. They dropped the Gameboy title because they wanted to market it as it's own branch. Nintendo considered it the "New Gameboy." The "DS" title actually came from the code name used for systems under development(for example Kinect's codename was Natal); it stood for Developer's System but the name eventually stuck and it now stands for "Double Screen"

http://www.n-sider.com/contentview.php?contentid=515
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_DS
http://gbatemp.net/lofiversion/index.php?t260895.html

Most gaming companies almost always support the older systems for at least another year and this is because it's still easy to make a profit. You pointed it out yourself, there is already a market for DS games so there is no need to waste time in effort to port the game over to the 3DS.
My sources: Nintendo Power and IGN. Damn straight. Anyways, the DS was called as the "third pillar" for Nintendo at gaming expos, intending for it to be a third console to run with the GBA and Gamecube (which is even mentioned in that N-Sider article you have). For one, Ninendo wasn't even confident that its features would be accepted, and you could see that the first full year or two were a "test run". And if you look at the Gamecube and Wii, the last game that Nintendo made for the Gamecube (Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess) came less than a month after the Wii came out. The Wii was originally intended as a successor while the DS was more of an experiment. As this article said, if Nintendo was confident enough with the console early on, we may all be playing our "Game Boy DS"s right now (and maybe anticipating a Game Boy 3DS?). While this is all nice and dandy I know, the true question is, whether or not Nintendo supports the DS for much longer, is that considering how long it takes to localize Ultimate Butōden, would Namco Bandai find it worth it to release it, possibly well in to the new hotness' lifetime? I'm not saying that they won't do it, I'm saying that I just don't know.
What's the expression again? "You can't spell Ignorant without IGN." Just saying, they aren't the best in the field. As for Nintendo Power, I used to be a huge subscriber(up until they game almost every Wii title 5 stars) and I don't remember Nintendo not having confidence in the system. They are a profitable company but Nintendo doesn't have the money to "test the water" with systems like Sony and Microsoft do.

As for this game, I'm more than positive it will come out in the US.
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SparkyPantsMcGee wrote: What's the expression again? "You can't spell Ignorant without IGN." Just saying, they aren't the best in the field. As for Nintendo Power, I used to be a huge subscriber(up until they game almost every Wii title 5 stars) and I don't remember Nintendo not having confidence in the system. They are a profitable company but Nintendo doesn't have the money to "test the water" with systems like Sony and Microsoft do.

As for this game, I'm more than positive it will come out in the US.
First thing: Five stars? NP uses a 10-point system. If you mean you gave most of those crap games a 5/10, then yeah. Anyways, The Big N wouldn't "have" the money, but back then it had complete domination of the handheld market. Like you said, they kept supporting the GBA. I think they did that as part of a back up plan if the DS failed to keep people supporting the darn thing, so they could develop a stopgap measure (like the Game Boy Color was a stopgap for the GBA. And it worked.) if needed.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Kai: Ultimate Butōden" Discussion

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metamoss wrote:
SparkyPantsMcGee wrote: What's the expression again? "You can't spell Ignorant without IGN." Just saying, they aren't the best in the field. As for Nintendo Power, I used to be a huge subscriber(up until they game almost every Wii title 5 stars) and I don't remember Nintendo not having confidence in the system. They are a profitable company but Nintendo doesn't have the money to "test the water" with systems like Sony and Microsoft do.

As for this game, I'm more than positive it will come out in the US.
First thing: Five stars? NP uses a 10-point system. If you mean you gave most of those crap games a 5/10, then yeah. Anyways, The Big N wouldn't "have" the money, but back then it had complete domination of the handheld market. Like you said, they kept supporting the GBA. I think they did that as part of a back up plan if the DS failed to keep people supporting the darn thing, so they could develop a stopgap measure (like the Game Boy Color was a stopgap for the GBA. And it worked.) if needed.
I could have sworn NP used the star system...at least until about '07;or maybe it was PtOM.


EDIT:
While I can't speak for NP(I borrowed my friends), PtOM did use a star system at one point so maybe I got the two mixed up. Anyway, the point I was trying to make was I stopped caring about NP's opinion when they started over praising every game on the Wii even if it wasn't that amazing. That and almost all first party games got perfect scores.
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