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[Cipher]

Okay, seeing the series in Japanese like this makes me appreciate Kai. I've been watching the first few episodes and it's so long and boring. I feel the same way I did when watching Naruto Shippuden. I think it's the soundtrack. I just... can't get into the Kikuchi track here. But why not? I sure as hell loved it in the movies(granted I've only seen 1-3 in Japanese) :/.

For one thing, none of the tracks introduced in the movies will have showed up by this point in the show.

While I can't imagine preferring Kai's soundtrack, which is equally repetitive, try waiting for the Kikuchi soundtrack to diversify. It gets more and more tracks throughout, but really hits its stride in the Cell and Buu arcs, I think.

Still, you aren't digging the Son Gohan and Piccolo theme?

[NeoKING]

Okay, seeing the series in Japanese like this makes me appreciate Kai. I've been watching the first few episodes and it's so long and boring. I feel the same way I did when watching Naruto Shippuden. I think it's the soundtrack. I just... can't get into the Kikuchi track here. But why not? I sure as hell loved it in the movies(granted I've only seen 1-3 in Japanese) :/.

For one thing, none of the tracks introduced in the movies will have showed up by this point in the show.

While I can't imagine preferring Kai's soundtrack, which is equally repetitive, try waiting for the Kikuchi soundtrack to diversify. It gets more and more tracks throughout, but really hits its stride in the Cell and Buu arcs, I think.

Still, you aren't digging the Son Gohan and Piccolo theme?

Nah, the only theme I really like at this point is the Cha-La OP. I'm not too fond of the Episode Title theme either; I thought it'd be as epic as the DBGT one, lol. However, I am willing to keep watching more episodes though admittedly I've skipped a whole lot of them because of the filler :/.

Something about Kai's soundtrack makes the themes more memorable. For example, during Kai episode 3 the battle theme that played throughout the Son Goku & Piccolo vs. Raditz theme really stuck with me. But, it's almost as if I'm barely noticing the Kikuchi score :/.

[JulieYBM]

Return My Gohan!! doesn't premier until after episode eleven, I believe. Once the Saiyan fight starts up those tracks begin to appear. The World's Strongest Guy also doesn't appear until the late thirties (which explains the heavy use of those tracks for the Namek arc). Three episodes in the only tracks appearing are tracks from Dragon Ball or created specifically for the Saiyan arc.

[Puto]

The crap audio quality of the Japanese track doesn't help appreciate the music, either.

[NeoKING]

The crap audio quality of the Japanese track doesn't help appreciate the music, either.

Hmm, the sound quality is bad? I never really noticed.

[AnimeMaakuo]

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[penguintruth]

I think the Kikuchi score is especially strong in the first arc, whereas Yamamoto's score didn't make any real splash until Namek.

The battle with Vegeta and Nappa has some of Kikuchi's best pieces. And I love the little Gohan tunes during his wilderness training.

[Gaffer Tape]

I agree. It seemed that later on the DBZ score began to rely more and more heavily on just recycling pieces from the movies. Not that a lot of those pieces weren't good, but they did seem to have this MO of, I guess, promoting the new music, so, whenever a movie was new, it seemed like they'd way too heavily use whatever music came from the latest movie, which I think heavily contributes to the idea that the DBZ score has a more limited score than it actually does. But it's really in the early episodes of Z, where they had a large selection of DB pieces mixed in with new DBZ pieces, that I think it's really at its best.

[NeoKING]

... I'm really starting to have a thing for the Gohan filler, the episode with the robot("Farewell, Mr. Robot-sir") and when Gohan decides to find his mother("To Get Away from Piccolo, Gohan Calls Forth a Storm!") in particular. The scene where he takes off the island on that raft was really good. You can really see his character developing here.

[Cipher]

... I'm really starting to have a thing for the Gohan filler, the episode with the robot("Farewell, Mr. Robot-sir") and when Gohan decides to find his mother("To Get Away from Piccolo, Gohan Calls Forth a Storm!") in particular. The scene where he takes off the island on that raft was really good. You can really see his character developing here.

I love the Gohan filler. Everyone loves the Gohan filler.

[Sketch]

Gohan has generally been my favorite character (though I like him better when he's older) and I was never much of a fan of the Gohan filler. I did think the Robot story was good though.

[JulieYBM]

I really like the Gohan filler, specifically the orphan episode. Toei gets to play around with the Dragon Ball world and advance Gohan as a character in these episodes. The stories are also quite emotional, which makes for plain ol' good TV. It also helps that the music selection and acting are superbly done. A lot of Toei's anime-only episodes aren't bad, actually.

*Says the guy who liked the Garlic Junior arc*

[Turtle Marked Stone]

... I'm really starting to have a thing for the Gohan filler, the episode with the robot("Farewell, Mr. Robot-sir") and when Gohan decides to find his mother("To Get Away from Piccolo, Gohan Calls Forth a Storm!") in particular. The scene where he takes off the island on that raft was really good. You can really see his character developing here.

I love the Gohan filler. Everyone loves the Gohan filler.

I refuse to believe you've been here for 900 posts and have never stumbled upon a Rocketman post!

[AgitoZ]

I like the Gohan filler. My only problem with it is that it doesn't amount to anything. Gohan still wooses out of the fight. All the buildup doesn't change the outcome.

[Piccolo Daimao]

I like the Gohan filler. My only problem with it is that it doesn't amount to anything. Gohan still wooses out of the fight. All the buildup doesn't change the outcome.

Well, that's filler. It just fills the gap. They can't change what happened in the manga.

I guess when people say it develops Gohan's character, they feel that it develops his character to them, even if it doesn't amount to anything at the end.

However, I feel that the filler of Goku and Gohan training in the RoSaT, built up Gohan as being the hero far more than the manga ever did. Especially with Gohan's first Super Saiyan transformation scene and that flashback scene at the Cell Games.

[jjgp1112]

I'm in the minority that thinks that Gohan wussing out of the fight with Nappa wasn't character derailment. It was more of just the shock of actually being in battle, and against such a terrifyingly strong guy who just survived a direct explosion and punched one of his ally's arm off. I mean, training is one thing, but being in a legit battle can scare the shit out of you and snap you right back to your old ways. We've all been in those situations where we spend weeks of preparation for something, and then when it finally comes, you're nervous as hell and end up nearly screwing everything up.

[Piccolo Daimao]

I'm in the minority that thinks that Gohan wussing out of the fight with Nappa wasn't character derailment. It was more of just the shock of actually being in battle, and against such a terrifyingly strong guy who just survived a direct explosion and punched one of his ally's arm off. I mean, training is one thing, but being in a legit battle can scare the shit out of you and snap you right back to your old ways. We've all been in those situations where we spend weeks of preparation for something, and then when it finally comes, you're nervous as hell and end up nearly screwing everything up.

Yeah, that's true. Especially when you consider that Gohan's 5 and it's his first fight.

[Gaffer Tape]

Agreed. I admit I was shocked when I first heard someone claim that the Gohan training filler was contradicted by the actual fight. That would be like saying that the Gohan we see when Nappa first starts killing people is the same Gohan who sat in a spacepod crying through most of the Radditz fight. His year on his own certainly changed him significantly. But there's just a huge gulf between "not being a crybaby" and "being a 5-year-old child standing his ground against a huge, murdering psychopath who's tearing through the adults around you like wet Kleenex." It would be like making fun of a frightened soldier because, since he has the ability to find and rent an apartment and hold down a job, he should easily be able to kill a human being.

[JulieYBM]

Not to mention Gohan's feeling a murderous, evil ki in mid-battle for the first time. If you're sensing abilities were as fine-tuned as his had come to be over the years (even if only by instinct) I'd surmised he'd be filled with emotions and feelings he wouldn't know how to properly process.

[penguintruth]

There's a difference between training for something and actually doing it, which is why I don't think it's character derailment at all. None of the others were quite prepared for the Saiyans, either.