Super #13 vs. Semi-Perfect Cell

[p123]

I don't see why Piccolo needs to be fused with God just because Dende's the God of Earth

I mean, are you even hearing yourself? It's a simple A to B scenario. Dende is God now, means that kami is not God, means where the hell is Kami? I mean, what Kami is retired? Kami was just in the bathroom? Kami died, but Piccolo survived somehow? What are your realistic options. Dende being there at all suggests that he needed to be there, what is Dende just visiting and taking over God duties for the week and happens to be around the movies timeline.


There's nothing to suggest that Kami and Piccolo didn't merge, if Dende is God. It's amazing your ability not to be able to see that...

[Vagrant]

There's nothing to suggest he is either. His power level seems exactly commensurate with his regular old Android-arc self. So it's really a question of what you prefer. Missing Kami or very weak Kamiccolo.

[Piccolo Daimao]

There's nothing to suggest he is either. His power level seems exactly commensurate with his regular old Android-arc self. So it's really a question of what you prefer. Missing Kami or very weak Kamiccolo.

Exactly. Piccolo isn't even treated as the strongest and while he fights the henchmen with Gohan and Kuririn, SSj Goku and Vegeta are fighting the main villain, Coola.

And besides, it's an alternate universe. The events don't have to happen exactly the same as they did. They're not even supposed to fit the main series anyway, and obviously the staff didn't care what it would say about Piccolo if Dende was God of Earth already, and I don't see why I should either.

[p123]

Dende being God heavily suggests Kami and Piccolo merged. Your type of logic is comparable to one saying that Dr Briefs was actually the strongest in the universe, but was just ultra suppressed the entire series just for kicks. You are making a baseless assumption grounded in zero evidence...


If anything Kamiccolo in Movie 6's power is consistent with his power in the Androids Saga. Goku and FF Cooler are suggested to be way stronger than the Androids are ever implied to be... It could just be that Goku/MetaCooler/Vegeta are just so far beyond Kamiccolo and the Androids at this point, Kamiccolo's power is a joke...


Kamiccolo and the Androids power probably lies somewhere in the 300-600 million range...

Base Goku in Movie 5 already displays a power above Freeza's power, while his SSJ power would be in the 5-10 billion range. Movie 6 Goku is stated to be even stronger than Movie 5, and MetaCooler is even stronger than that.


So even if we took Kamiccolo from the Androids Saga, he would still be nothing to Goku/Vegeta/Meta Cooler type of power anyhow. So I see no reason to even make Kamiccolo weaker. Nothing in the movies 5 and 6 indicates that the SSJ powers are even remotely similar to the SSJ powers shown in the manga..


It's best to look at movies as a completely alternate universe. It's possible Piccolo joined with Kami when Piccolo was weaker, which would effect Kamiccolo's strength, but in the end, the SSJs are just so far beyond anything imaginable in Movies 5 and 6, it hardly would make a difference either way...

[dbgtFO]

Base Goku in Movie 5 already displays a power above Freeza's power, while his SSJ power would be in the 5-10 billion range.

Well the movie is called Clash!! 10,000,000,000 Powerful Warriors, which obviously refers to Goku, Vegeta & Cooler's Battle Powers to be about 10 billion.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Look, my problem with Piccolo being merged with God is that...it just doesn't look like that in Movie 6. He doesn't appear any stronger than Goku and Vegeta, only fights with the henchmen and the SSjs are the ones who fight with the main villain, not Piccolo. When the movies don't fit in the timeline themself, why must we try to twist them into something that, to me, doesn't even work within the realms of the movie? Sometimes, it's best to just not think about it and accept that they're not supposed to fit anywhere. Movie 6 can't fit 'cos if Dende was God, Gohan would be a SSj. Movie 7 can't fit because they'd still be dealing with the Androids and/or Cell, not going shopping. Movie 3 can't fit because everyone are on Earth, when they're supposed to be on Namek, and Piccolo and co. are alive.

You can diss my opinion all you want and say I'm "not using logic", but I think I've backed up my opinion with good reasoning and evidence. We can agree to disagree.

[AnimeMaakuo]

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[Vagrant]

The movie androids all appeared to be full-mechanical models like #16 to me. I doubt he could be absorbed by Cell.

[p123]

Yea, Cell cannot absorb inorganic material..