Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discussion

[linkdude20002001]

They still pronounce Gero wrong.

Yeah. I've pronounced it correctly for so long now that I forgot about FUNi's weird pronunciation. I was a bit surprised when I heard it.

[Goku100xKamehameha]

They pronounce it like "Giiroow", right?

[Tsukento]

They pronounce it like "Giiroow", right?

The way they pronounce it is "Jeh-roh" with the beginning part having (I guess the best way to describe it) a French pronunciation for the "Jeh" part.

As for the ending theme not being the second one, it doesn't surprise me. They didn't use any of the other Dragon Soul variations other than the Saiyan Saga one.

[Goku100xKamehameha]

As for the ending theme not being the second one, it doesn't surprise me. They didn't use any of the other Dragon Soul variations other than the Saiyan Saga one.

They use the Android arc OP (in one of those "leaked" clips).

[Ahiru77]

I like this ending more than Kokoro which sounds too girly.

[penguintruth]

I applaud Sean Schemmel for trying to sound as casual as possible during Goku's talk with his friends, but he just doesn't have that same charm Nozawa does. Some of Nozawa's reactions in these episodes are priceless, even in Kai.

I'm starting to hear where people are coming from when they say Trunks sounds too scratchy. But I still think Vale's delivery is a lot better this time out. The real problem is the script for the character.

I used to pronounce the guy's name "GEAR-O", because he made robots.

[Super Sonic]

So, after watching yesterday's ep I have to ask, were any of you guys surprised they kept Gohan challenging Frieza or Vegeta seeing Super Saiyan Goku? I was I admit. And though it was kinda corny, I kinda missed Frieza's line, "How? I killed you! You must be a ghost!"

[NeoKING]

I'd argue that the overly literal translation of "Instantaneous Movement" is too awkward when spoken out loud in English, especially since "Shunkan Idō" is just a generic japanese term for what we call "Teleportation" in English -- which is probably what they should've called it in the first place...

Ah is that the translation? I agree about "Instantaneous Movement" maybe being too much of a mouth full. Then again I’m fine with “Instant Transmission” too to an extent.

Shunkan Ido literally means "Moving in a flash," which is basically teleportation in this context. "Instantaneous Movement" is just as "ridiculous" as "Instant Transmission." I really don't see the problem with what the dub uses and "Instantaneous Movement" because they're both awkward and exaggerated terms for something that's simply teleportation, lol. It's kinda like Bukujutsu, the technique used to fly. That means something like "Art of Air-Play" IIRC, but it's just regular flying. The only difference is that Shunkan Ido actually does refer to teleportation in Japanese.

[Super Sonic]

Can see another thing different of Nicktoon's standards from CN's in today's episode. Frieza being sliced was edited. Well, that's what dvds are for.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

I miss 'Can a ghost do this?'
Anyway, is it just me, or is the script quality starting to drop. There were a lot of lines I didn't like in recent episodes, but perhaps the worst would have to be:
"You'll pay for that!" instead of "Are you talking about Krillin!" or "His name was Krillin!" or something along those lines.

By the way, what happaneed to the 'Broadcast Talkback' Thread.

[batistabus]

I actually thought Trunks sounded better in this episode (in terms of dialogging and gruffness).

[Super Sonic]

I actually thought Trunks sounded better in this episode (in terms of dialogging and gruffness).

They're still in the Frieza fight's final moments.

I miss 'Can a ghost do this?'
Anyway, is it just me, or is the script quality starting to drop. There were a lot of lines I didn't like in recent episodes, but perhaps the worst would have to be:
"You'll pay for that!" instead of "Are you talking about Krillin!" or "His name was Krillin!" or something along those lines.

By the way, what happaneed to the 'Broadcast Talkback' Thread.

That's what I was wondering. Also with the recent eps replacing death with defeat, does anyone wish they could've just said "destroy" if they didn't want to use "kill"? It doesn't beat around the bush and make it seem like they might still be living.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

Watching ep 52 right now. I'm surprised they kept that massive punch to the gut. Even I was like, 'Oooooohhhh' at the impact

EDIT: Nicktoons. Cut. The. Slapping. Scene. Well, we can't have kids elbowing each other in the head and slapping each other repeatedly.

[batistabus]

I actually thought Trunks sounded better in this episode (in terms of dialogging and gruffness).

They're still in the Freeza fight's final moments.

There are more episodes out online. Go back a page or two to find links.

[PuppetDoctor]

I miss 'Can a ghost do this?'
Anyway, is it just me, or is the script quality starting to drop. There were a lot of lines I didn't like in recent episodes, but perhaps the worst would have to be:
"You'll pay for that!" instead of "Are you talking about Krillin!" or "His name was Krillin!" or something along those lines.

By the way, what happaneed to the 'Broadcast Talkback' Thread.

I am beginning to notice a lot of dropping of lines also. I am no expert on the script of the Japanese version but for some reason I remember the Trunks saga lines very well and I notice some lines have been changed. On top of that I hate Trunks' voice so I am thinking of dropping the dub. I just hope the script doesn't completely go to hell.

I guess after the great fight of Goku and Freeza with the excellent voice acting I am disappointed. And, here I never considered myself a big fan of Chris Ayres but I am beginning to miss him now.

[Mountain]

I miss 'Can a ghost do this?'
Anyway, is it just me, or is the script quality starting to drop. There were a lot of lines I didn't like in recent episodes, but perhaps the worst would have to be:
"You'll pay for that!" instead of "Are you talking about Krillin!" or "His name was Krillin!" or something along those lines.

By the way, what happaneed to the 'Broadcast Talkback' Thread.

I am beginning to notice a lot of dropping of lines also. I am no expert on the script of the Japanese version but for some reason I remember the Trunks saga lines very well and I notice some lines have been changed. On top of that I hate Trunks' voice so I am thinking of dropping the dub. I just hope the script doesn't completely go to hell.

I guess after the great fight of Goku and Freeza with the excellent voice acting I am disappointed. And, here I never considered myself a big fan of Chris Ayres but I am beginning to miss him now.

Yeah, Ayres really was the tent pole, so to speak, of FUNi's dub. I suspect that the overall quality will take a dive, going into the next arc.

[Mewzard]

I miss 'Can a ghost do this?'
Anyway, is it just me, or is the script quality starting to drop. There were a lot of lines I didn't like in recent episodes, but perhaps the worst would have to be:
"You'll pay for that!" instead of "Are you talking about Krillin!" or "His name was Krillin!" or something along those lines.

By the way, what happaneed to the 'Broadcast Talkback' Thread.

I am beginning to notice a lot of dropping of lines also. I am no expert on the script of the Japanese version but for some reason I remember the Trunks saga lines very well and I notice some lines have been changed. On top of that I hate Trunks' voice so I am thinking of dropping the dub. I just hope the script doesn't completely go to hell.

I guess after the great fight of Goku and Freeza with the excellent voice acting I am disappointed. And, here I never considered myself a big fan of Chris Ayres but I am beginning to miss him now.

Yeah, Ayres really was the tent pole, so to speak, of FUNi's dub. I suspect that the overall quality will take a dive, going into the next arc.

That's assuming that the following villains in the Android/Cell arc are going to be of lesser quality acting, and that the regular cast won't improve in quality (which I think there has been improvement since the series started).

I think it'll be fine. Schemmel's been a fantastic Goku, the supporting cast has had some good moments, and they've done good (for the most part) on replacements so I'm not too worried about any changes (though, I hope they keep Chuck Huber as #17 at least).

[penguintruth]

Sean Schemmel is a decent Goku now, but I wouldn't say he's "fantastic".

But I would agree that it's not the time to panic that the level of voice acting will get worse. Especially when some of the new characters in the later arcs had much better VAs than the regular cast even back in DBZ, so by now they should be even better.

I'm more concerned with the script.

[MR.Mark]

Holy shit, Vale's Trunks fucking sucks. Could his voice be more forced and delivery be more the complete oposite of what his character is? Even when his mom is asking him questions, hitting on him Back to the future style, his delivery is with that stupid raspy "bad-ass" additude. Sean's Goku is a Nozawa clone compared to the utter wrong-ness of this. Infact, Sean is as wonderful as ever, so much so that even the lack of "aint's" and such is'nt enough to detract how great he is as Son Goku. Goku's conversation with Trunks only made Vale's phoned in delivery and forced voice stand out all the more due to Sean's natural acting.

Vale better get his act together (i.e, actually start acting) or this arc is gonna suffer for it.

I think his last lines befoe leaving to the future was the only decent one so far, damn, colour me majorly dissapointed!

On a lighter note, Cold's voice was great, rich and royal, like a serious version of the old funi voice, perfect.

[Mewzard]

Sean Schemmel is a decent Goku now, but I wouldn't say he's "fantastic".

But I would agree that it's not the time to panic that the level of voice acting will get worse. Especially when some of the new characters in the later arcs had much better VAs than the regular cast even back in DBZ, so by now they should be even better.

I'm more concerned with the script.

Well, taste does vary per person. Sometimes, a voice clicks with someone, and adds to the merit of the performance. Or, a voice can do the opposite, and take away from an actor's work if you don't like it. For me, it's a like.

There were several solid voice castings in the Android arc that worked fine, despite the script issues. I think if some of the good ones returned, and any replacements are at the level of past replacements, then we can look forward to a good arc. Maybe even better than the Freeza arc, if we get some surprise performances that blows our expectations out of the water.

I hope we do get such a surprise. Either through a past actor or someone new.

And as for Vale's Trunks, his biggest flaw is the addition of too much rasp. It wasn't a problem when he originally did Trunks (at least, to this degree)...I don't know why he's doing this performance, but here's hoping that his return is better.