Would Broly be as unpopular if he wasn't brought back?

[Kingdom Heartless]

I know Broly can't exactly be called unpopular, but he is a character who receives a lot of hate. Question is, if he was a one-movie-character, would he receive as much hatred?

Personally, my only real issue with the character is overexposure. From Movie #8 alone, he is a pretty good villain, with a story that actually works a lot better than many of the other movies. Yes, in the end, he becomes a one-note muscle bound brute, but so do many of the other villains, and let's face it, he's a lot better drawn than this guy:



I like that Movie #8 has become unappreciated, due to its less than stellar sequels... I love the fact that actually shares a stronger connection to the Dragon Ball world, as Movies #5 and #9 did.

[CODii]

You're absolutely right that he is a much more developed character than most movie villains. The sequels really don't do him any justice. I personally would like him more if Toei had just left well enough alone and stopped Brili's appearances after movie #8.

[Godo]

I for one don't like Super Android 13 either. It's just something about muscle bound and few-worded villains that I hate (except for the Terminator). Nappa was cool, mostly because of that he was so freakishly evil, and I liked his dialog with Vegeta.

If they kept Broly as a regular-looking SSJ and gave him more lines, then I ensure you that I would like him more as a villain.

Think of it like this: A huge, destructive tank is cool, but not much more than that. But a smaller tank that is just as destructive and has an awesome fucking megaphone who taunts and speaks with people it wants to destroy, is even more awesome. And that is why I love small tanks with megaphones.

[Ahiru77]

I think he would. His backstory was still iffy.

[Michsi]

His unpopular? I mean I see plenty of fans disliking him but that comes with the territory. I think he is prett well liked in the japanese fandome at least

I see fanart of him everywhere.

[CODii]

His unpopular? I mean I see plenty of fans disliking him but that comes with the territory. I think he is prett well liked in the japanese fandome at least

I see fanart of him everywhere.

Actually I remember them saying on an episode of the podcast when they were discussing Raging Blast (sorry I don't remember which episode number) that the Japanese fans were totally annoyed by the fact that Broli was getting so much love from the game. (with his SSJ3 transformation specifically) It seems that the only place where Broli is really popular is over here in the U.S. among a lot of the casual fans.

[StarRot]

I know even a lot of Broly fans were super pissed about the SSJ3 thing, considering it to be a pointless addition and playing to the “Broly getting undue attention/whored out everywhere” thing.
I obviously can’t speak much for Japanese fans, but with 3513 drawings tagged with Broly on pixiv I’d say that’s a good indicator that he’s pretty popular. Plus, there's a ton of parody videos of him on NicoNico.

As for the topic, yeah I think he’d be a lot more liked if he wasn’t added everywhere.
His inclusion as a secret boss in Attack of the Saiyans is particularly irksome to me.

[Eire]

Just transplantation of brain and biography could help that thing we see in the official version.

"Mysterious Broli's fanbase" actually happen in every developed fandom. Like Darth Maul in Star Wars and Legolas in LOTR- in the worlds where every pixel have C.V and family three to 10th generation back is someone quite powerful, quite significant, handsome in some crazy ways, very characteristic. Someone who begs for fanfiction, like form that we can in some ways fill as we need. (If the new facts are revealed, so much the worse for them).

[Kingdom Heartless]

He also had actual dialogue in Movie #8.

[penguintruth]

He'd still be the worst thing about the entire franchise.

Well, outside of power level debates. But that's mostly fandom bullshit.

[Hellspawn28]

I'm pretty sure he will still be popular if Movie 10 and 11 did not exist. Janemba is rather popular with fans and he only appear in one movie. Was never used in any major Dragon Ball media until Buu's Furry came out back in 2004, nearly a decade after Fusion Reborn came out in 1995.

[roidrage]

I for one don't like Super Android 13 either. It's just something about muscle bound and few-worded villains that I hate (except for the Terminator). Nappa was cool, mostly because of that he was so freakishly evil, and I liked his dialog with Vegeta.

If they kept Broly as a regular-looking SSJ and gave him more lines, then I ensure you that I would like him more as a villain.

Think of it like this: A huge, destructive tank is cool, but not much more than that. But a smaller tank that is just as destructive and has an awesome fucking megaphone who taunts and speaks with people it wants to destroy, is even more awesome. And that is why I love small tanks with megaphones.

Nope, gotta disagree with you there. A talking tank just pisses me off. I get so damn tired of fictional villains jabbering and taunting and acting all self-important. Sometimes, what I want is a villain who just says "RAWR". That, to me, is awesome. Actions speak a hell of a lot louder than words. I have bad taste, and I'm not afraid to admit it.

[Kingdom Heartless]

He'd still be the worst thing about the entire franchise.

Well, outside of power level debates. But that's mostly fandom bullshit.

Even with his mediocre sequels he's not the worst thing about the franchise.

[kei17]

His unpopular? I mean I see plenty of fans disliking him but that comes with the territory. I think he is prett well liked in the japanese fandome at least

I see fanart of him everywhere.

Yes, he is also popular here, but oddly enough, not much as a strong villain. He is now very popular as a meme in Nico Nico Douga.

[Gaffer Tape]

Personally, I prefer his sequels to his original movie, although my reasons for both have nothing to do with him. You could have plugged anybody into those movies, and I'd probably feel the exact same way about them. But, no, I don't care for Broli, and I guess that's the reason why... aside from his first film (which was just too damn long), he's, to me, the least-interesting thing about the stories he's in. And that's just screwed up.

[Cipher]

Yes, he is also popular here, but oddly enough, not much as a strong villain. He is now very popular as a meme in Nico Nico Douga.

I noticed that about a year ago when I started seeing all these "もしもブロリーが何々だったら" videos, and just made a thread about it in the Fan Works Section.

My guess was that he's basically the Japanese equivalent of the "Over 9000!" meme in America. Is this accurate? If so, is that why he keeps showing up in games? As a sort of joke?

[kei17]

Yes, he is also popular here, but oddly enough, not much as a strong villain. He is now very popular as a meme in Nico Nico Douga.

I noticed that about a year ago when I started seeing all these "もしもブロリーが何々だったら" videos, and just made a thread about it in the Fan Works Section.

Manta P, one of the pure fans of Broly, started uploading a series of "MAD video" named Broly producer, which is a parody of THE IDOLM@STER, a video game released for XBOX360. Some followers appeared after that, and someone started a series named "If Broly had been sent to the earth". Then Broly bacame a big meme among the DB fans in Nico Nico Douga.

My guess was that he's basically the Japanese equivalent of the "Over 9000!" meme in America. Is this accurate? If so, is that why he keeps showing up in games? As a sort of joke?

Yes, Broly is now just like the "OVER 9000!" meme, but the reason why they keep putting Broly in the video games is different. There has been a fandom of Broly as a pure evil character in Japan as well, and I don't know why, but there are some Broly fans even among the staff in Bandai Namco Games. They always treat Broly well for no reason, and that has been annoying the Japanese DB fandom for years.

[jpdbzrulz4sure]

there are some Broly fans even among the staff in Bandai Namco Games.

Well, that explains a lot.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

It seems to me that most of the hatred for Broly stems from his veneration by the majority of the fanbase. In other words, the "we don't like it because the hoi polloi does" mentality. Personally, I'm apathetic towards the character. Sure, he's one-dimensional and not very aesthetic, but is that really so uncommon in the world of Dragon Ball? My apathy comes mainly from the eighth and tenth movies. They had potential, but they were infested with examples of lazy writing and bad pacing (e.g. Broly wanting vengeance against Gokū because he cried when they were neonates). I'm quite fond of the concept of a "Legendary Super Saiyan", though. The eleventh movie was decent, albeit superfluous. Resurrecting him a second time really didn't sit well me. The characters and humour were good, nevertheless (I lol'ed at "fair pray").


Forgive my superficialness, but I also think he looks pretty cool.

[Ussj Future Trunks]

I hate Broly because of his overexposure and lack of clarification on his power. I mean his endings are so ridiculous that we find Broly > Kid buu and crap like that because of all the haxing and shit. They shouldn't have even implied the rising power thing because that fuelled the fire of "Lulz if he had more time he'd surpass SSj4 Gogeta! BELIEVE IT!". I mean seriously writers. Think about what you're writing and clarify power levels.
What's the point of introducing the LSSJ when Goku was supposed to be exactly that in Frieza Arc and Lord Slug? What did Broly ultimately contribute to the mythology? If he was the actual previous SSJ and an immortal monster then maybe. And if they intended him to be the strongest ever, why have him appear in the Cell time area instead of being a final boss?