Inconsistencies & Oddities

[Piccolo Daimao]

I found inconsistencies or just general things I found odd that I'd like to point out. I thought it would be better to make one thread rather than multiple threads about each individual things.

-In Viz, Yajirobe said that he found the 1-star Dragon Ball three years ago. But three years ago, Goku made the wish to revive Bora, meaning all the Dragon Balls would've been stone for a year. And when Daimao summons Shenlong, Yajirobe even mentions that it turned dark like this three years ago. Is this a Vizism?

-When Piccolo Daimao destroys the city as a demonstration of his power to the King of the World, he powers up with his right hand and draws it back, but he destroys the city with his left hand.

-Why did Daimao blow up after Son Goku tore through him?

-Karin was surpriesd that Son Goku could feel Daimao's demonic power. Is it just because this isn't an ability he thought Goku would have yet, or that he's surprised that anyone could just sense someone's ki, or even that he's surprised he could sense his ki so far away?

-Did Piccolo have a brain fart when he was surprised Cell could use "Tenshinhan's move", since he'd seen Son Goku use the Taiyo-ken at the 23rd TB (and Kuririn tells him that it's not that hard to do, since he and Goku could do it)?

-I don't know if this is the dub's fault or both the dub and the original, but if Goku never explicitly said that he's going to use Kaio-Ken X20 against Freeza in the anime, then how would viewers know what level he was at?

[dbgtFO]

-In Viz, Yajirobe said that he found the 1-star Dragon Ball three years ago. But three years ago, Goku made the wish to revive Bora, meaning all the Dragon Balls would've been stone for a year. And when Daimao summons Shenlong, Yajirobe even mentions that it turned dark like this three years ago. Is this a Vizism?

It's like that in the danish version as well...

-Why did Daimao blow up after Son Goku tore through him?

I got my own fanon theory about that. I personally think that the Namekian art of giving birth through laying eggs uses up a lot of power and is thus not natural, since I think they had two genders before the Storm, so I think they originally reproduced like Earthlings.

So since laying eggs is not natural, it's dangerous to just keep laying eggs, since it uses up so much power eventually causing you to become much larger than before(Old Piccolo Daimao and Saichoro) eventually exploding, if you've exceeded your limit by doing it, when you have practically close to no power left.

Because of that I also believe that Saichoro laying another Egg would cause him to explode eventually wiping Namek out as side effect, because I consider him far stronger than Piccolo Daimao.

[Kaboom]

-In Viz, Yajirobe said that he found the 1-star Dragon Ball three years ago. But three years ago, Goku made the wish to revive Bora, meaning all the Dragon Balls would've been stone for a year. And when Daimao summons Shenlong, Yajirobe even mentions that it turned dark like this three years ago. Is this a Vizism?

If not, then perhaps the "stoned" Dragon Ball happened to land right next to him. He thought it was interesting and made the necklace out of it, and then it suddenly turned back to glass a year later?

-When Piccolo Daimao destroys the city as a demonstration of his power to the King of the World, he powers up with his right hand and draws it back, but he destroys the city with his left hand.

"Whoops, I missed. Okay, take two... action!"

-Why did Daimao blow up after Son Goku tore through him?

Goku destabilized his reactor core.

-Karin was surprised that Son Goku could feel Daimao's demonic power. Is it just because this isn't an ability he thought Goku would have yet, or that he's surprised that anyone could just sense someone's ki, or even that he's surprised he could sense his ki so far away?

-Did Piccolo have a brain fart when he was surprised Cell could use "Tenshinhan's move", when he'd seen Son Goku use the Taiyo-ken at the 23rd TB (and Kuririn tells him that it's not that hard to do, since he and Goku could do it)?

As far as I know, this is the first definite instance of Goku being able to sense Ki, so I'd imagine it was simply surprise at him developing such an ability.

Maybe Tenshinhan is considered so low-profile a character by then, that Piccolo didn't think or remember that Cell would take after him?

-I don't know if this is the dub's fault or both the dub and the original, but if Goku never explicitly said that he's going to use Kaio-Ken X20 against Freeza in the anime, then how would viewers know what level he was at?

Flipping through the manga, he mentions that his only hope is to risk taking the Kaio-Ken up to 20x, which he ultimately decides to do. There's a short beatdown on his part using it, which finishes with the Kamehameha. I'd imagine it went much the same way in the original Japanese of the anime, though I'd have to check to be sure. I think that part was combined with his freaky dream-session with naked Vegeta and what-not, so maybe the pacing was different or the mention of the x20 was placed elsewhere.

[PatPat]

One that i thought was interesting was when Goku, Bulma, and Krillin go to that underwater cave and take on Blue. When There Above the lava bulma's panties are white with red polka dots, but when they dive underwater her panties change to red lol.

[Kiyza]

-In Viz, Yajirobe said that he found the 1-star Dragon Ball three years ago. But three years ago, Goku made the wish to revive Bora, meaning all the Dragon Balls would've been stone for a year. And when Daimao summons Shenlong, Yajirobe even mentions that it turned dark like this three years ago. Is this a Vizism?

I'm gonna go with Kaboom's answer to this one. Besides, if a rock fell out of the sky, it's not entirely impossible that you might want to make a necklace out of it for good luck or something.

-When Piccolo Daimao destroys the city as a demonstration of his power to the King of the World, he powers up with his right hand and draws it back, but he destroys the city with his left hand.

There are a lot of little drawing inconsistencies like that, such as Goku's wristbands magically appearing and disappearing. I'd chalk it up to that. As someone who draws a lot, I honestly can't remember whether something's on the left side of someone's body or the right half the time.

-Why did Daimao blow up after Son Goku tore through him?

Dramatic effect? Perhaps there was something about the punch that caused him up.

-Karin was surpriesd that Son Goku could feel Daimao's demonic power. Is it just because this isn't an ability he thought Goku would have yet, or that he's surprised that anyone could just sense someone's ki, or even that he's surprised he could sense his ki so far away?

I'd take it to mean that he just doesn't expect Goku to be able to sense ki.

-Did Piccolo have a brain fart when he was surprised Cell could use "Tenshinhan's move", since he'd seen Son Goku use the Taiyo-ken at the 23rd TB (and Kuririn tells him that it's not that hard to do, since he and Goku could do it)?

More likely, Toriyama just forgot. But other than that, yeah, brain fart.

-I don't know if this is the dub's fault or both the dub and the original, but if Goku never explicitly said that he's going to use Kaio-Ken X20 against Freeza in the anime, then how would viewers know what level he was at?

I'm pretty sure it was stated in the manga somewhere at the very lest.

I got my own fanon theory about that. I personally think that the Namekian art of giving birth through laying eggs uses up a lot of power and is thus not natural, since I think they had two genders before the Storm, so I think they originally reproduced like Earthlings.

So since laying eggs is not natural, it's dangerous to just keep laying eggs, since it uses up so much power eventually causing you to become much larger than before(Old Piccolo Daimao and Saichoro) eventually exploding, if you've exceeded your limit by doing it, when you have practically close to no power left.

Because of that I also believe that Saichoro laying another Egg would cause him to explode eventually wiping Namek out as side effect, because I consider him far stronger than Piccolo Daimao.

That's... interesting. Personally, I don't find it that hard to believe that they just have children like that all the time. It makes a bit more sense to me, considering that's what we're show in the series.

Reminds me, I've always thought that Namekians somehow incorporate ki into how they reproduce, and that's why they're better at controlling it than humans.

[Herms]

-In Viz, Yajirobe said that he found the 1-star Dragon Ball three years ago. But three years ago, Goku made the wish to revive Bora, meaning all the Dragon Balls would've been stone for a year. And when Daimao summons Shenlong, Yajirobe even mentions that it turned dark like this three years ago. Is this a Vizism?

It's like that in the original. Well, technically for the second one Yajirobe originally says "about 3 years ago", but I don't think that changes much.

-When Piccolo Daimao destroys the city as a demonstration of his power to the King of the World, he powers up with his right hand and draws it back, but he destroys the city with his left hand.

Apparently in the anime they fixed this by showing him gather energy in his right hand, then transfer it to his left as he fires.

[Gaffer Tape]

As far as I know, this is the first definite instance of Goku being able to sense Ki, so I'd imagine it was simply surprise at him developing such an ability.

Is it? Didn't he sense presences at the village Oolong was attacking? Didn't Kame'sennin express surprise that General Blue was able to mask his presence from him? Hell, didn't Goku even somehow feel the approach of the pirate robot? Or are these written in a different way from their ki-sensing abilities later in the series?

[dbgtFO]

As far as I know, this is the first definite instance of Goku being able to sense Ki, so I'd imagine it was simply surprise at him developing such an ability.

Is it? Didn't he sense presences at the village Oolong was attacking? Didn't Kame'sennin express surprise that General Blue was able to mask his presence from him? Hell, didn't Goku even somehow feel the approach of the pirate robot? Or are these written in a different way from their ki-sensing abilities later in the series?

This is what Herms had to say about Goku sensing the villagers:

When Goku says he can tell there are people in Oolong's village, the word he uses is 気配/kehai, meaning a sign/hint/indication of something. While it uses the kanji for ki (with a different reading) the concept doesn't really involve ki in a DB sense (some sample sentences include "there's a hint of fall in the air", "there are no signs that anyone lives here", etc). Basically it refers to signs that can be detected through subtle observation or instincts. Later in DB, when Oozaru Vegeta dodges Kuririn's Kienzan, he uses the word when he says he could tell Kuririn was there, and Vegeta definitely isn't supposed to be able to sense ki at this point.

http://daizex.fanboyreview.net/viewtopi ... 1&start=20

[SHINOBI-03]

-When Piccolo Daimao destroys the city as a demonstration of his power to the King of the World, he powers up with his right hand and draws it back, but he destroys the city with his left hand.

Toriyama was sick at that time.

[kaialone]

-Why did Daimao blow up after Son Goku tore through him?

Maybe he eploded because he put his very essence inside the egg he spat out? And before you ask how he could talk a little after that.Ripple effect .

-Karin was surpriesd that Son Goku could feel Daimao's demonic power. Is it just because this isn't an ability he thought Goku would have yet, or that he's surprised that anyone could just sense someone's ki, or even that he's surprised he could sense his ki so far away?

I think its the former

-Did Piccolo have a brain fart when he was surprised Cell could use "Tenshinhan's move", since he'd seen Son Goku use the Taiyo-ken at the 23rd TB (and Kuririn tells him that it's not that hard to do, since he and Goku could do it)?

But Goku and Krillin saw Ten perform that attack,I dont think Cell did,so mayxbe he is suprised that Cell could use it without anyone showing him how?

[Herms]

@dbgtFO: And the pirate robot and General Blue parts also used the term kehai rather than ki.

[Gaffer Tape]

http://daizex.fanboyreview.net/viewtopi ... 1&start=20

Ah, thank you. I missed that thread!

[dbgtFO]

@dbgtFO: And the pirate robot and General Blue parts also used the term kehai rather than ki.

That does make sense, especially regarding the Pirate Robot.
@Gaffer Tape
You're welcome

[Godo]

One that i thought was interesting was when Goku, Bulma, and Krillin go to that underwater cave and take on Blue. When There Above the lava bulma's panties are white with red polka dots, but when they dive underwater her panties change to red lol.

Maybe it was her time of the month, and it occurred gradually, and her panties were initially fully white.

[Booney]

One that i thought was interesting was when Goku, Bulma, and Krillin go to that underwater cave and take on Blue. When There Above the lava bulma's panties are white with red polka dots, but when they dive underwater her panties change to red lol.

Maybe it was her time of the month, and it occurred gradually, and her panties were initially fully white.

It would explain the diamond's smell

[Dorexx]

One that i thought was interesting was when Goku, Bulma, and Krillin go to that underwater cave and take on Blue. When There Above the lava bulma's panties are white with red polka dots, but when they dive underwater her panties change to red lol.

Bulma took her dad's capsule-set by accident and found porn magazines in one of them. There was a girl underwear collection in another capsule.

[PatPat]

One that i thought was interesting was when Goku, Bulma, and Krillin go to that underwater cave and take on Blue. When There Above the lava bulma's panties are white with red polka dots, but when they dive underwater her panties change to red lol.

Bulma took her dad's capsule-set by accident and found porn magazines in one of them. There was a girl underwear collection in another capsule.

Well I guess theres a explanation for everything now isn't there.

[Gaffer Tape]

Well, except that there was only one capsule in that case.

[kaialone]

Well, except that there was only one capsule in that case.

Maybe there was a capsule inside the caspsule

[rereboy]

Well, except that there was only one capsule in that case.

Maybe there was a capsule inside the caspsule