Possibility of Boo Saga in Kai

[DBwad]

Ok people for some odd reason I think that the reason Toei is cancelling Dragon Ball Kai is because they MIGHT try to release the Boo Saga later on in the year with reanimation. The only reason I'm even thinking of this is because of Ultimate Butouden being branded as Kai. I mean I really don't think Toei is going to be so half assed as not finish Kai while having Kai branded products with Majin Boo on it. I'M JUST SAYING. So......... thoughts anyone?

[GotenDaisuki]

Well, Toei doesn't want to spend any more money than they have to on Kai.
It does seem strange that a Kai branded game like Ultimate Butoden has Boo in it, when there won't be a Boo arc in Kai.
Maybe in due time, Toei will continue with a Boo arc, but, right now, it's just not going to happen.

[Gaffer Tape]

Well, considering how many Dragon Ball Z items were rebranded Dragon Ball Kai just to tie itself to the new thing, I don't think a Buu-era game with the Kai label is necessarily indicative of anything. And even if it is, even if they always planned to do the Buu arc... well, if they're canceled, then that's it. Yeah, shows can occasionally be un-canceled, but it's very rare. Shows don't always get to tell all the stories they intended to. Some things just fail.

[NeoKING]

It'd be a travesty to me thanks to the BGM fiasco. I like my Kai to have Yamamoto music, thanks. Now I'm glad that the curtain closes on the Cell saga.

[Chuquita]

Does Ultimate Butoden use the Yamamoto soundtrack? I don't recall hearing about it.

[penguintruth]

I really don't think Toei is going to be so half assed as not finish Kai while having Kai branded products with Majin Boo on it.

You don't know Toei.

[Daimo-Rukiri]

TOEI is cheap, they're not going to finish kai. If a boo ark does come it's basically going to be edit's from it's licensees.

[Mewzard]

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if a Kai Boo Saga only came due to either Toei being paid to do it, or Funi just making a Kai from their Dragon Box Prints (if they had to do any, go from the best source they have).

[penguintruth]

Yeah... that's what we need. A new DB product, made by Funimation.

Why not just pass the Buu arc through your intestines and fish the results out of the toilet?

[GotenDaisuki]

Yeah... that's what we need. A new DB product, made by Funimation.

Why not just pass the Buu arc through your intestines and fish the results out of the toilet?

FUNimation has become much better than they used to be, you know.

[xzero]

Yeah... that's what we need. A new DB product, made by Funimation. <BR sab="678"><BR sab="679">Why not just pass the Buu arc through your intestines and fish the results out of the toilet?

I know you're unquestionably biased against Funimation, but objectively, do you really think they couldn't do a good job?

If so, I disagree. First, we have to assume that Funi would see a Buu saga as highly profitable. Second, on Funi's end, they would need the right people in charge of creative control. People like Sabat, who genuinely know the series and care about it, are the types of directors who should be in charge. Hand them the manga, give them whatever score is appropriate, and I imagine they could do a good job.

[Makaioshin]

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if a Kai Boo Saga only came due to either Toei being paid to do it, or Funi just making a Kai from their Dragon Box Prints (if they had to do any, go from the best source they have).

Kusao Takeshi, Trunks voice actor, said that he hopes they could do the Boo arc in the future. Its not completely out of the realm of possibility for them to do it later so Funimation might not want to jump the gun and do the Boo arc on their own.

[Daimo-Rukiri]

Another option is to just dub the boo ark in it's entirety. We do get filler, but a good dub and the kikuchi score.

[Gaffer Tape]

Did I miss something? Why is everyone blaming Toei for Kai ending? I mean, yes, Toei is cheap. I'm not going to dispute that. But does Japanese television work differently than American television? Do networks just air whatever animation studios happen to give them? And Toei just made the decision to end Kai just... because? Just because they're terrible, evil bastards? Because I could have sworn shows were usually canceled because of things like low ratings, because networks or studios aren't managing to make their money back on the product they're making. So... why is Toei being bitched out just because Kai happened to fail? If anybody's to blame, wouldn't it be the network? I mean, I don't recall anyone bitching out Joss Whedon when Firefly was canceled. People were pissed at Fox.

[penguintruth]

I don't think we were blaming Toei per se (though I think they set their bar way too high for sales expectations), but it's well known how cheap they are, and saying they're not "half-assed" is inaccurate. Toei is extremely half-assed.

As for Funimation, really, as improved as they've gotten, I'm not trusting them to completely produce a DB series of their own. They'll want a lot of creative input into the script. And it would probably be dub-only. I don't want the success of anything DB to be resting on their shoulders, or frankly any American licensor. It's not just a Funimation thing.

Also, for every completely inaccurate line they put in, somebody's going to justify it by saying, "Hey, they made the show, they can do what they want." Fuck that.

[Mewzard]

Toei is extremely lazy and half assed many series I loved the manga of. In fact, at this point, I trust Funi more with getting out quality DB products with effort behind them than Toei. Funi proved they can in a modern setting (Kai dub). Toei was lazy in the 80s, in the 90s, in the 00s, and they still seem to be lazy. Cheaper companies put out more expensive remakes than Kai that made less money, and still profited. If Toei doesn't get maximum profit for minimum effort, they get mad and stop a show, despite relatively good success.

[Tsukento]

I don't think we were blaming Toei per se (though I think they set their bar way too high for sales expectations), but it's well known how cheap they are

Funny thing is that they're so cheap when it comes to spending money, but god help you when it comes to paying for the rights of something they own.

[MetaMoss]

I think the blame should be Toei's, because Toei keeps the timeslot! Joss Whedon didn't get to put in a new show in Firefly's timeslot when it got canceled, did he?

[JulieYBM]

I think the blame should be Toei's, because Toei keeps the timeslot! Joss Whedon didn't get to put in a new show in Firefly's timeslot when it got canceled, did he?

Why shouldn't they use the timeslot they pay for in a way that will make them more money? Dragon Ball wasn't doing it for them.

[Gaffer Tape]

I think the blame should be Toei's, because Toei keeps the timeslot! Joss Whedon didn't get to put in a new show in Firefly's timeslot when it got canceled, did he?

That... doesn't make much sense to me. So like I was asking before, Fuji TV has absolutely no control over what Toei chooses to put in that time slot? That doesn't seem to make much business sense. And if Joss Whedon had been able to put a new show in the timeslot, wouldn't he have then been doing exactly what you claim to be pissed off at Toei for?