Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by goku1234 » Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:40 pm

hope they hurry up and finish the comic and not doing the special chapters it very annoyed!!

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Godo » Fri Apr 01, 2011 6:51 am

CatouttaHell wrote:Yet more Universe 16 wanking. :roll:

Let's pray that this great main story that was mentioned isn't going to wind up being Vegetto and Bura powering up and beating up some main villain with 5 pages in between everything that happens showing all of the other universes remarking how cool and all-powerful they are.
Hey, at least it's better than when the praise and awe is directed at Broly.

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Post by CatouttaHell » Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:03 am

Godo wrote:Hey, at least it's better than when the praise and awe is directed at Broly.
Watch as they somehow find a way to make Broly wander back to the tournament.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:37 am

CatouttaHell wrote:
Godo wrote:Hey, at least it's better than when the praise and awe is directed at Broly.
Watch as they somehow find a way to make Broly wander back to the tournament.

Dear Kami-sama, may what I just said turn out to be bullshit..
Jeez, you really are negative about this comic... -_-

No, I'm certain that Broly won't be back. He served his purpose in the story.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TonyTheTiger » Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:18 am

CatouttaHell wrote:Yet more Universe 16 wanking. :roll:
You have to think in the long term. I'm convinced that they're using a very common Dragon Ball trope here. Broly demonstrates his power, wowing the crowd, Vegetto kicks his ass putting everybody in complete awe, Bra sort of does the same, and they get WTF pwn'd by the big bad (probably XXI) to show just how powerful the bad guy is. Vegetto is pretty much a stand-in for Vegeta.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Scarz » Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:17 pm

Thanks StarRot and rereboy!
CatouttaHell wrote:Yet more Universe 16 wanking. :roll:


Yeah, I gotta admit I kind of feel the same way but only because I want to see more of the "Human" universe with Krillin and Tenshinhan (I know we just saw Tenshinhan fight, I'm just a huge fangirl for him) and not to mention the Saiyan universe with evil Goku. But they all had their shinning moment, probably not as much as U16 but I'm sure there will be other universe fan wanking in the near future. Just give it time.

EDIT: New page
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Next page, Zangya will have a hole through her head. Or worse, Vegetto intervened.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:30 pm

Scarz wrote:
Yeah, I gotta admit I kind of feel the same way but only because I want to see more of the "Human" universe with Krillin and Tenshinhan (I know we just saw Tenshinhan fight, I'm just a huge fangirl for him) and not to mention the Saiyan universe with evil Goku. But they all had their shinning moment, probably not as much as U16 but I'm sure there will be other universe fan wanking in the near future. Just give it time.
Exactly... DBM may be guilty of fan wanking, but its pretty much doing it for almost all of the characters.

As for the new page, when I first saw it, I thought "epic outburst is epic".

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by dbgtFO » Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:40 pm

Scarz wrote:Or worse, Vegetto intervened.
I actually think that's what happened.
Although it would be funny to see Zangya completely fucked up like that.

@New page
Meh, more sloppiness, not liking it.

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Post by TonyTheTiger » Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:23 pm

Woof? :lol:

If Vegetto did intervene that would just be dumb. Not only would he get disqualified (which would crush my "XXI will whoop his ass" theory) but it would be for a stupid reason. Zangya would be revived later anyway.

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Post by goku the krump dancer » Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:25 pm

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Post by rereboy » Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:15 pm

dbgtFO wrote: @New page
Meh, more sloppiness, not liking it.
Actually, I don't agree at all with you on this one.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by batistabus » Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:19 pm

I don't like Bra.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Godo » Fri Apr 01, 2011 6:22 pm

Poor Zangya. Except for giving out insults to Bra about Pan, she wasn't the one who killed Pan. She looks scared and I feel sorry for her.
Vegetto is awesome, but I don't care much about Bra to be honest. I wonder if she will ascend to SSJ3 in the possible future of DBM. Now that would mean lots of death. And she would look like an alien.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Metrite » Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:57 pm

It looks like that nobody that Arale beat was just an impostor. It would seem that Bra is meant to be the real Mary Sue of DBM! :lol:

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:55 pm

Honestly... Again with the Mary Sue...

A Mary Sue type of character is a character that is simply way too perfect compared to the others or too favored by the author.

Bra is not perfect... At all... She is shown to have more flaws than qualities. She is portrayed as a inexperienced hot-head teenager who can't control her emotions or her power, who almost screwed up during the fight with Buu (she was lucky that Broly was sent back when he did, or else they would be totally f*cked) and she isn't even smart enough to realize that if she had attacked Bojack when he killed Pan, Pan wouldn't be revived at the end of the tournament because they would simply be disqualified, before everyone mentioned that to her.

These are all flaws.

What are her qualities then? Well, she is powerful. And... That is pretty much it. And even that is just because she is the daughter of Vegetto. And unlike Gohan compared to Goku, she doesn't seem to be powerful enough to be able to top her father despite being constantly training and having the drive to do so, since, from what we have seen, Vegetto is still much more powerful than her.

So, her power is understandable due to her being the daughter of Vegetto, but her potential doesn't seem to be that high. It seems to be just the minimum we would expect from the offspring of Vegetto.

So... Why exactly is she a Mary Sue? Because she gets a little more screen time than other characters?
She does get a little more, but so does Vegetto, and they go together almost all of the time. Basically, when one appears, so does the other. And, if all the Buu/Broly business hadn't happened, she wouldn't have any extra screen time compared to other characters. And like I said, that screen time was divided between her and Vegetto (and Gohan).

Excuse my long exposition, I'm not trying to bash your opinion, but I really can't understand why so many people insist on this Mary Sue business. Every character is being fan wanked. Bra is no exception, and I hardly think that the fact that she had a little more screen time qualifies her as a Mary Sue.

Bra is pretty powerful compared to the others, which might be useful later on, but that's the minimum we would expect from Vegetto's daughter and, besides that, she is just a very flawed character who introduces a somewhat interesting sub-plot for herself and Vegetto with her battle against her own self control.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TonyTheTiger » Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:03 pm

Yup, Mary Sues usually have perfect personalities. Bra is an overemotional pain in the ass.

Still want to see her boobs, tho.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Metrite » Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:02 pm

rereboy wrote:...or too favored by the author.

...These are all flaws.
And that was pretty much the basis of the joke. The ironic thing is that flaws are often viewed as being what makes a character "perfect" to many. So if you want to show great favor to a character, one thing you can do is put emphasis on glaring flaws you give them to make the character stand out while giving you an excuse to focus even more on them. :P

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Ussj Future Trunks » Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:13 pm

U16 isn't nearly the focus. U9 got three fights, U17 got a long fight and a special. Trunks got a special and a fight. Broly got a long fight and two specials. U18 have had everyone in their universe fight. U16 has only had Gotenks' fight, the escapade in space and Vegetto fighting Broly/Pan vs Bojack. Naturally the strongest universe would get some spotlight just as Broly, Buu and Cell got spotlight. And now we are also getting a look in U6.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:01 am

Metrite wrote:
rereboy wrote:...or too favored by the author.

...These are all flaws.
And that was pretty much the basis of the joke. The ironic thing is that flaws are often viewed as being what makes a character "perfect" to many. So if you want to show great favor to a character, one thing you can do is put emphasis on glaring flaws you give them to make the character stand out while giving you an excuse to focus even more on them. :P
What...? :?

Flaws can make a character more interesting and, in some cases, more likable, but not more perfect, as in Mary Sue perfect. Those are two very different concepts.

As for her being favored, I've already addressed that and concluded that she only got a little more screen time than other characters because of the whole Buu situation, which existed because of Vegetto. If that situation hadn't existed, she wouldn't have had more fan wanking than the others, and the focus of that situation was more on Buu and Vegetto than actually Bra.

So, she isn't perfect compared to the others, quite the opposite, and she isn't actually being that favored. Which, in my opinion, doesn't her make a Mary Sue.
Ussj Future Trunks wrote:U16 isn't nearly the focus. U9 got three fights, U17 got a long fight and a special. Trunks got a special and a fight. Broly got a long fight and two specials. U18 have had everyone in their universe fight. U16 has only had Gotenks' fight, the escapade in space and Vegetto fighting Broly/Pan vs Bojack. Naturally the strongest universe would get some spotlight just as Broly, Buu and Cell got spotlight. And now we are also getting a look in U6.
Exactly... Almost everyone is being fan wanked. Which is awesome to me, since its not retarded fan wanking.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Godo » Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:03 am

Bra and Vegetto are more or less like Goku and Gohan after the ROSAT, when they had mastered the FPSSJ. They are much stronger than the other fighters, but still have threats like strong enemies. The other fighters, though, are capable to handle minor threats.

Bra is much like a female Gohan, I mean, her personality fits Gohan's a lot. Uncontrollable power, vengeful, making her own decisions no matter what others say...the list can go on.
So in that way, it makes her a bland character IMO. Not that Gohan ever was a bland character, but we have seen it before.
But I am not complaining. She serves her purpose well at the moment, just like Gohan did for a while.

If you think that Salagir et. al. are fanwanking Bra and Vegetto, then I suppose that you are against Goku and Gohan getting almost all the spotlight in DBZ.

But to be honest, other characters have gotten enough screentime as it is already. And I bet that with weaker characters eliminated, we have much more amazing fights to look forward too.

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