What if Piccolo Daimao dodged Goku?
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What if Piccolo Daimao dodged Goku?
During their final battle, when Goku puts all of his power into a one-arm Kamehameha and thrusts himself into the air to penetrate Piccolo, what if Piccolo simply dodged the attack instead of trying to block it? How would the series play out? Would Yamucha train in secret, possibly under Karin-sama, or would he also go and die like everyone else? Would Kami-sama decide he's had enough and order Mr. Popo to kill him or Piccolo or seal him up with the Mafuba? If that happened, would be there be ANY chance Kami-sama would still restore the dragon balls and wish the Dragon Ball Gang back? Would Tsuru-sennin and Cyborg Tao Pai Pai try to stop Piccolo eventually? Would the Earth be forever screwed when Raditz shows up?
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Re: What if Piccolo Daimao dodged Goku?
The thing is, Piccolo Daimao NEVER would have dodged. He was too cocky. Ma Junior, however, was able to learn from this mistake. That, my friend, is the true reason as to why Piccolo focused Gohan's training on how to properly DODGE!!!
Serious answer: Goku almost certainly dies, everyone is either killed or goes into hiding, and Raditz shows up. After Raditz kills Daimao and any remaining Earthlings, Freeza gets a new planet for his collection.
Serious answer: Goku almost certainly dies, everyone is either killed or goes into hiding, and Raditz shows up. After Raditz kills Daimao and any remaining Earthlings, Freeza gets a new planet for his collection.
Re: What if Piccolo Daimao dodged Goku?
See, here's my scenario.
King Piccolo is weaker than Kami/God. However I attribute this to the former being imprisoned for years while Kami had time to train and get stronger.
I think King Piccolo could get stronger with time and he'll surpass his good counterpart. At this point he will forcibly merge with Kami, reclaim their original Nameless Namek power level, and WTFpwn the Saiyans when they come to Earth.
He's a true hero ya know.
And Tao strikes me as too much of a coward to ever try to oppose a being like Piccolo.
King Piccolo is weaker than Kami/God. However I attribute this to the former being imprisoned for years while Kami had time to train and get stronger.
I think King Piccolo could get stronger with time and he'll surpass his good counterpart. At this point he will forcibly merge with Kami, reclaim their original Nameless Namek power level, and WTFpwn the Saiyans when they come to Earth.
He's a true hero ya know.
And Tao strikes me as too much of a coward to ever try to oppose a being like Piccolo.
Re: What if Piccolo Daimao dodged Goku?
Mr. Popo defeats Piccolo Daimao. 
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Re: What if Piccolo Daimao dodged Goku?
Kami-sama would likely attempt the Mafuba still.
Either that, or he would have Yamucha kill him (I doubt Popo would be willing).
Either that, or he would have Yamucha kill him (I doubt Popo would be willing).
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Re: What if Piccolo Daimao dodged Goku?
Is forcible fusion even possible? That's a scary thought. Imagine an alternate universe where Piccolo Daimao did that, then used Kami-sama's spaceship to find the rest of his race and forcibly fuse with all of them.Nikkolas wrote:See, here's my scenario.
King Piccolo is weaker than Kami/God. However I attribute this to the former being imprisoned for years while Kami had time to train and get stronger.
I think King Piccolo could get stronger with time and he'll surpass his good counterpart. At this point he will forcibly merge with Kami, reclaim their original Nameless Namek power level, and WTFpwn the Saiyans when they come to Earth.
I like your idea though Kami-sama supposedly slacked on his training and fell behind Piccolo because of that. On a related note, I'm a filler guy so I try to explain the filler with Mutaito as Piccolo Daimao getting a lot weaker. It could also make the "half power" line work if Piccolo Daimao just THINKS he still has that much power hidden. Incredibly far-fetched I know, but still.
Mr. Popo would probably tell Yamucha that Kami-sama would die if Piccolo Daimao dies. Of course, after losing Son Goku, Muten Roshi, Kuririn, and maybe even someone else depending on how this hypothetical universe would play out I doubt he'd care anymore if someone dies from him killing Daimao.Kingdom Heartless wrote:Kami-sama would likely attempt the Mafuba still.
Either that, or he would have Yamucha kill him (I doubt Popo would be willing).
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Too bad Ma Junior wasn't around before Piccolo Daimao. He would have taught him to DODGE!!!Eddie wrote:The thing is, Piccolo Daimao NEVER would have dodged. He was too cocky. Ma Junior, however, was able to learn from this mistake. That, my friend, is the true reason as to why Piccolo focused Gohan's training on how to properly DODGE!!!
Serious answer: Goku almost certainly dies, everyone is either killed or goes into hiding, and Raditz shows up. After Raditz kills Daimao and any remaining Earthlings, Freeza gets a new planet for his collection.
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I mean Kami-sama would have Yamucha kill Kami-sama directly. After all, he was willing to have Tenshinhan do it at the 23rd Tenkaichi.Mr. Popo would probably tell Yamucha that Kami-sama would die if Piccolo Daimao dies. Of course, after losing Son Goku, Muten Roshi, Kuririn, and maybe even someone else depending on how this hypothetical universe would play out I doubt he'd care anymore if someone dies from him killing Daimao.
I'm sure Yamucha would be willing to do it for the greater good.
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Re: What if Piccolo Daimao dodged Goku?
Oh. I understand now. Makes sense, though I think the Mafuba would be a much more reasonable option. Piccolo Daimao didn't seem nearly as smart as Ma Junior and was way too cocky for his own good so I don't think he would have invented the Reverse Mafuba. Being defeated by a little boy who survived entirely due to his carelessness (or plot hax I guess) and being reincarnated and thus starting fresh really changed him into a much better warrior.Kingdom Heartless wrote:I mean Kami-sama would have Yamucha kill Kami-sama directly. After all, he was willing to have Tenshinhan do it at the 23rd Tenkaichi.
I'm sure Yamucha would be willing to do it for the greater good.
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Re: What if Piccolo Daimao dodged Goku?
Why not just remake the Dragonballs and wish the dragon to imprison King Piccolo forever?
Shenron: Hell last time I was up here one of you bastards shot me with a rocket and now you act like we're all cool?!
Kami: Well....if it's any consolation Mr. Dragon my wish is for you to seal away the asshole who killed you.
Shenron: Oh. Well that's veey thoughtful. Your wish shall be granted.
Shenron: Hell last time I was up here one of you bastards shot me with a rocket and now you act like we're all cool?!
Kami: Well....if it's any consolation Mr. Dragon my wish is for you to seal away the asshole who killed you.
Shenron: Oh. Well that's veey thoughtful. Your wish shall be granted.
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Re: What if Piccolo Daimao dodged Goku?
Damn. That's like raping all of your own people.Is forcible fusion even possible? That's a scary thought. Imagine an alternate universe where Piccolo Daimao did that, then used Kami-sama's spaceship to find the rest of his race and forcibly fuse with all of them.
I don't think he would have fused with Kami either. He would have thought he was strong enough and gone to Kami's temple and got killed by Kami or trapped in the Mafuba by Popo.
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Re: What if Piccolo Daimao dodged Goku?
I don't think he could have dodged it, he doesn't know the flying technique and you can't exactly move when you're in the middle of the air.
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Re: What if Piccolo Daimao dodged Goku?
Piccolo Daimaô would kill Son Gokû, Tenshinhan and Yamcha (who was going to help Gokû and Tenshinhan with Bulma and the others). He would then rampage the world for a while, and then God would fly down and beat the crap out of Piccolo before using the Mafûba on him. Piccolo wouldn't have developed the Reverse Mafûba by this time because he would be so arrogant that he's invincible, the King of the World and no-one can touch him. And after the Muten-Rôshi died, Piccolo said that he didn't believe there was anyone who knew the Mafûba, but now he was dead too. So, to him, there's no-one else who can know the Mafûba anymore, which was probably why Piccolo basically abandoned his plan to kill the participants of the Tenka'ichi Budôkais for the last 10 years or so.
After sealing Piccolo in a jar and taking it back to God's Palace, God would restore the Dragon Balls and Shenlong (because, like in the original story, as long as there are even a few pure people like Gokû, he believes that the Dragon Balls should exist), and Bulma would revive everyone who'd been killed by Piccolo Daimaô. Gokû wouldn't go to God's Palace because he only went there to ask God to restore the DBs and be trained to defeat Piccolo. So Goku and the others would train for the 23rd Tenka'ichi Budôkai. Gokû would defeat King Chapa and Chaozu would be defeated by Tao Pai Pai in the preliminaries, and in the main tournament, Tenshinhan would defeat Tao Pai Pai and Gokû would defeat Chi-Chi, then get married, as normal. Kuririn and Yamcha would be matched up either with each other and some other prelim jobbers.
Five years later, Raditz comes to Earth and attempts to recruit Gokû. Gokû refuses, Raditz defeats Gokû and kidnaps Gohan, as normal. Because there's no Piccolo, Gokû, Kame-sennin and Kuririn go after Raditz like they were going to before Piccolo interrupted (Yamcha, Tenshinhan and Chaozu don't fight because no-one knows their whereabouts). Raditz kills them, destroys everyone on the planet before Yamcha, Tenshinhan and Chaozu can be trained by God, and sells Earth to a race looking for living space. Vegeta never gets his chance to overthrow Freeza because he doesn't know about the DBs that grant him immortality, and he forever lives under Freeza's rule in quiet resentment.
After sealing Piccolo in a jar and taking it back to God's Palace, God would restore the Dragon Balls and Shenlong (because, like in the original story, as long as there are even a few pure people like Gokû, he believes that the Dragon Balls should exist), and Bulma would revive everyone who'd been killed by Piccolo Daimaô. Gokû wouldn't go to God's Palace because he only went there to ask God to restore the DBs and be trained to defeat Piccolo. So Goku and the others would train for the 23rd Tenka'ichi Budôkai. Gokû would defeat King Chapa and Chaozu would be defeated by Tao Pai Pai in the preliminaries, and in the main tournament, Tenshinhan would defeat Tao Pai Pai and Gokû would defeat Chi-Chi, then get married, as normal. Kuririn and Yamcha would be matched up either with each other and some other prelim jobbers.
Five years later, Raditz comes to Earth and attempts to recruit Gokû. Gokû refuses, Raditz defeats Gokû and kidnaps Gohan, as normal. Because there's no Piccolo, Gokû, Kame-sennin and Kuririn go after Raditz like they were going to before Piccolo interrupted (Yamcha, Tenshinhan and Chaozu don't fight because no-one knows their whereabouts). Raditz kills them, destroys everyone on the planet before Yamcha, Tenshinhan and Chaozu can be trained by God, and sells Earth to a race looking for living space. Vegeta never gets his chance to overthrow Freeza because he doesn't know about the DBs that grant him immortality, and he forever lives under Freeza's rule in quiet resentment.
Piccolo does know how to fly, because we see him do it. And even if you can't fly, you can still move when you're in the air. Goku and Namu did it during their battle, and I think there are other instances too. If anyone can provide scans, it would be appreciated.Ranmarotto wrote:I don't think he could have dodged it, he doesn't know the flying technique and you can't exactly move when you're in the middle of the air.
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In conclusion , King Piccolo and subsequently Piccolo Jr. are one of the key figures that saved the earth and most of the galaxy.Piccolo Daimao wrote:*snip*.
Not bad for a being made from pure evil with the desire to destroy and spread chaos.
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Yep. If it wasn't for Piccolo, Raditz would've killed everyone and destroyed Earth, and Freeza would still be ruling the galaxy.Michsi wrote:In conclusion , King Piccolo and subsequently Piccolo Jr. are one of the key figures that saved the earth and most of the galaxy.Piccolo Daimao wrote:*snip*.
Not bad for a being made from pure evil with the desire to destroy and spread chaos.
Holden Caulfield in [b][i]The Catcher in the Rye[/i][/b] wrote:I hope to hell when I do die somebody has sense enough to just dump me in the river or something. Anything except sticking me in a goddam cemetery. People coming and putting a bunch of flowers on your stomach on Sunday, and all that crap. Who wants flowers when you're dead? Nobody.
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Yeah, that was really a dumbass move, even for Pilaf. He's that stupid to release a pure evil Demon King who'd turned the world into a living hell, and then hoped that he'd give him a portion of the world? That's the literal definition of "getting deep in shit you don't understand".Dorexx wrote:Well if Pilaf didn't open that rice cooker........
Holden Caulfield in [b][i]The Catcher in the Rye[/i][/b] wrote:I hope to hell when I do die somebody has sense enough to just dump me in the river or something. Anything except sticking me in a goddam cemetery. People coming and putting a bunch of flowers on your stomach on Sunday, and all that crap. Who wants flowers when you're dead? Nobody.
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Maybe Kami comes to Earth and allows Yamcha to kill him?
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Why wouldn't he just use the Mafuuba like he did at the 23rd TB, rather than going straight for that last resort?Kid Buu wrote:Maybe Kami comes to Earth and allows Yamcha to kill him?
Holden Caulfield in [b][i]The Catcher in the Rye[/i][/b] wrote:I hope to hell when I do die somebody has sense enough to just dump me in the river or something. Anything except sticking me in a goddam cemetery. People coming and putting a bunch of flowers on your stomach on Sunday, and all that crap. Who wants flowers when you're dead? Nobody.
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Goku doesn't choose/get ordered by his master to not let Raditz go? Gohan doesn't burst from the pod and smack Raditz so hard that broken-ribs Goku can hold him?Piccolo Daimao wrote:Because there's no Piccolo, Gokû, Kame-sennin and Kuririn go after Raditz like they were going to before Piccolo interrupted (Yamcha, Tenshinhan and Chaozu don't fight because no-one knows their whereabouts). Raditz kills them





