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DragonBall Z - Movie Overview Special

Post by Hujio » Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:00 pm

I just put this up on Kanzentai, but I think it deserves some discussion. Since I'm lazy, I'm just gonna copy-n-paste the update from the site:
Kanzentai Update wrote: This special is known amongst DragonBall fans by a few different names, such as the 3rd DragonBall Z TV special or the Movie Overview Special. This special was hosted by Goku and Gohan, who are dressed for the occasion in white tuxes, and covers all of the DragonBall and DragonBall Z movies that preceded DragonBall Z movie 7, "Extreme Battle!! The Three Great Super Saiyans". However, for years it has been virtually inaccessible to fans outside of Japan... until now! Thanks to our buddy kei17, we have an exclusive detailed look at this "clip show" special just for all of you that you won't find anywhere else!
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Once you're done reading, be sure to check out Daizenshuu EX podcast episode #247 where VegettoEX, Meri, and myself had a grand time "reviewing" this special. I guess it's now one more of those things we can all check off of our "to see before I die" lists. Oh, what will we get our hands on next?!
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Post by JulieYBM » Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:11 pm

It's a shame Fuji won't comission more of these. When Strong World came out a one hour recap with Luffy and the gang would've been a pretty cool way to buy them a week to keep behind Oda and also promote the current film.

I find it strange that the first six movies are presented in 4:3 but the next four letter-boxed. I wonder if that was a case of what film masters they had on hand or not. Hmm...
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Post by kei17 » Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:40 pm

kanzentai wrote:Oddly enough, the footage for DragonBall movies 1-3 and DragonBall Z movies 1-3 used in this special are presented in a 4:3 fullscreen format, as that's how these movies were originally released in Japan on VHS and LaserDisc.
DBZ movies 1-3 were presented in a 4:3 format on VHS, but all the laserdisc releases have the letterboxed footage, so this sentence is somewhat wrong. Anyway, now I have only DBZ movie 3 on VHS. I have to check out the other early movies to confirm their aspect ratio. I will put some screen caps here when I get them.

I wonder if that was a case of what film masters they had on hand or not.
I am sure that none of film masters was letterboxed. The ending credits list TOVIC (one of the Toei Group companies) as the video studio, so Toei just used their video tape masters made for the VHS releases which they had on hand.
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Post by Chibi Gohan » Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:51 pm

Pretty cool guide. It's something that would be cool to watch, even if it is just a recap and a clip show.

By the way, is there any chance I might be able to get a larger picture of this? :P
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Post by samuraix123 » Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:21 am

"Does anyone know where I can download this special, or where I can buy this?"
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Post by Pokewhiz7 » Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:33 am

samuraix123 wrote:"Does anyone know where I can download this special, or where I can buy this?"
You can't buy it anywhere, and no.

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Post by SSVegetto » Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:48 am

Pokewhiz7 wrote:
samuraix123 wrote:"Does anyone know where I can download this special, or where I can buy this?"
You can't buy it anywhere, and no.
If you can't buy it anywhere, then they must have downloaded it as well. I feel pissed off when people say no. Something rare as this should be shared.

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Post by Cipher » Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:57 am

So ... what's this thing actually called?

Does the title "Extreme Battle!! The Three Great Super Saiyans – Special" actually show up anywhere? Or is it simply "Summer Vacation Special," as the eyecatch (?) says.

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Post by kei17 » Fri Apr 22, 2011 4:19 am

Cipher wrote:Does the title "Extreme Battle!! The Three Great Super Saiyans – Special" actually show up anywhere? Or is it simply "Summer Vacation Special," as the eyecatch (?) says.
The title card says "Dragon Ball Z Extreme Battle!! The Three Great Super Saiyans – Special".
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Chibi Gohan wrote:Pretty cool guide. It's something that would be cool to watch, even if it is just a recap and a clip show.

By the way, is there any chance I might be able to get a larger picture of this? :P
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Post by Chibi Gohan » Fri Apr 22, 2011 8:06 am

Thanks! :D
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Post by SylentEcho » Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:08 am

Kei17, those are from some fansub. Where did you get it?

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Post by Zestanor » Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:39 am

SylentEcho wrote:Kei17, those are from some fansub. Where did you get it?
If I'm not mistaken, it was Kei17's VHS (possibly copied onto DVD) which was sent to the Kanzenshuu team. So those caps he posted are most likely from his own copy.
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Post by Hujio » Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:01 pm

SSVegetto wrote:If you can't buy it anywhere, then they must have downloaded it as well. I feel pissed off when people say no. Something rare as this should be shared.
First off, we didn't download it from anywhere. It was sent to us by kei17, who has a copy of his own on Betamax. Therefore, you can be pissed off all you want, but it is not ours to just hand out to everyone. We are here to simply educate and document rare aspects of DragonBall, which is what we did by making the page. If you want, we could stop documenting these things so we don't have to deal with people getting pissed that they don't have a copy of their very own.
Cipher wrote:So ... what's this thing actually called?
Does the title "Extreme Battle!! The Three Great Super Saiyans – Special" actually show up anywhere? Or is it simply "Summer Vacation Special," as the eyecatch (?) says.
The yellow cards that appear at the beginning and end of the special do call it the "DragonBall Z Summer Vacation Special". Following the first yellow card is the actual title card, which does say "DragonBall Z: Extreme Battle!! The Three Great Super Saiyans – Special". I've added a video clip of the opening on the page, so be sure to take a look at that.
SylentEcho wrote:Kei17, those are from some fansub. Where did you get it?
From what I remember of the story, a friend of his, or a cousin or something, had recorded most of the series' original broadcast run on Betamax (including commercials). This person gave them to kei17, who apparently owns a bunch of Betamax players, in exchange for him ripping them to DVD so they could be preserved digitally. From there, he sent us a copy as long as we agreed to review/discuss it on the podcast.
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Post by Mosaic » Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:04 pm

Wasn't there another one where Gohan and Goten are bathing and Goku comes out of no where?

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Post by Pokewhiz7 » Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:19 pm

Mosaic wrote:Wasn't there another one where Gohan and Goten are bathing and Goku comes out of no where?
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Post by SSVegetto » Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:44 pm

Hujio wrote:
SSVegetto wrote:If you can't buy it anywhere, then they must have downloaded it as well. I feel pissed off when people say no. Something rare as this should be shared.
First off, we didn't download it from anywhere. It was sent to us by kei17, who has a copy of his own on Betamax. Therefore, you can be pissed off all you want, but it is not ours to just hand out to everyone. We are here to simply educate and document rare aspects of DragonBall, which is what we did by making the page. If you want, we could stop documenting these things so we don't have to deal with people getting pissed that they don't have a copy of their very own.
So he sent you copy of it on a DVD-R or something? Which is basically the same thing as if you were to download it. Now if he let you borrow his betamax and you sent his betamax back to him. Even then you would probably make a copy of it to yourself? How is that different from downloading it?

It's nice that you document Dragonball stuff. But why does that make you better than anyone else to keep rare stuff to yourself (You have your own personal copy that you didn't pay for that nobody else has)? And who is Pokewhiz7? He just came out of the blue and said no. And he isn't even Kei17. You personally don't have to share it , but I thought it would be nice to share it or whatever. If Kei17 did. People share rare stuff on this forum all the time.

I didn't personally even ask you or anyone. But Pokewhiz7 just came out and said no like a dick. Like he has full entitlement to this and no one else can have it. When I assume he doesn't even own a copy himself. It's Kei17, and now you.

I'm probably just as big of fan of Dragonball as anyone else. And just because I don't document stuff, or know everything in a daizenshuu guide, doesn't mean I'm not entitled to rare stuff also.

If you want to say I have something rare and keep personally want to keep it to yourself. I understand. But saying oh I didn't download it as if you didn't have a free copy. Or implying it's a legal issue if anyone else has it because they don't document Dragonball. That doesn't seem right to me.

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Post by Ashura » Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:54 pm

Let me try to defuse this a little bit. I think from what little they've said, the point is the following:

-This is Kei17's cap of the special. He had a betamax of the special and he recorded it digitally.
-He shared his digital recording with Daizenshuu EX and Kanzentai under the explicit purpose of reviewing it only.
-They either:
A.) Do not feel comfortable releasing it to the public since it is Kei17's cap and it's not their place to break his trust.
B.) Kei17 specifically asked them not to and as good people they are respecting his wishes.
-In this case, Kei17 is the one who you should inquire with about his plans for the special. Politely.
-If he is not willing to release it, then it probably will not be released to the public. And if this is so, you should respect his decision.
-Further, the way the rules work on the forum it's sort of iffy if the whole thing would be allowed to be released specifically here since it's technically, you know, illegal. As grey an area as the thing exists in.
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Post by SSVegetto » Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:15 pm

Ashura wrote:-Further, the way the rules work on the forum it's sort of iffy if the whole thing would be allowed to be released specifically here since it's technically, you know, illegal. As grey an area as the thing exists in.
How exactly is it illegal? Hujio just said he got a free copy for himself from Kei17. And you can't buy it from anywhere. Is he legally allowed to have this? But you are saying if it was sent to other people on this forum, then that is illegal, but not for him?

This forum already has links to other rare stuff to download also. Whole footage to a movie.

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Post by Eddie » Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:18 pm

SSVegetto wrote:
Hujio wrote:
SSVegetto wrote:If you can't buy it anywhere, then they must have downloaded it as well. I feel pissed off when people say no. Something rare as this should be shared.
First off, we didn't download it from anywhere. It was sent to us by kei17, who has a copy of his own on Betamax. Therefore, you can be pissed off all you want, but it is not ours to just hand out to everyone. We are here to simply educate and document rare aspects of DragonBall, which is what we did by making the page. If you want, we could stop documenting these things so we don't have to deal with people getting pissed that they don't have a copy of their very own.
So he sent you copy of it on a DVD-R or something? Which is basically the same thing as if you were to download it. Now if he let you borrow his betamax and you sent his betamax back to him. Even then you would probably make a copy of it to yourself? How is that different from downloading it?

It's nice that you document Dragonball stuff. But why does that make you better than anyone else to keep rare stuff to yourself (You have your own personal copy that you didn't pay for that nobody else has)? And who is Pokewhiz7? He just came out of the blue and said no. And he isn't even Kei17. You personally don't have to share it , but I thought it would be nice to share it or whatever. If Kei17 did. People share rare stuff on this forum all the time.

I didn't personally even ask you or anyone. But Pokewhiz7 just came out and said no like a dick. Like he has full entitlement to this and no one else can have it. When I assume he doesn't even own a copy himself. It's Kei17, and now you.

I'm probably just as big of fan of Dragonball as anyone else. And just because I don't document stuff, or know everything in a daizenshuu guide, doesn't mean I'm not entitled to rare stuff also.

If you want to say I have something rare and keep personally want to keep it to yourself. I understand. But saying oh I didn't download it as if you didn't have a free copy. Or implying it's a legal issue if anyone else has it because they don't document Dragonball. That doesn't seem right to me.
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Post by SSVegetto » Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:37 pm

Eddie wrote:
SSVegetto wrote:
Dear sir,
Please remember that you are not entitled to everything. Temper tantrums will not in fact, get you what you want. Feelings of rage towards Mr./Ms. Pokewhiz over their statement is not kind. Common sense does, in fact, apply. You are not exempt from this. Kanzentai, as well as all people employed by and associated with them, owe you nothing. Thank you and have a nice day!

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I couldn't care less if I had this or not. And no one owes me a damn thing. And I didn't even ask for it (I only implied that it would be nice to see it out there). But at least I don't go around speaking for other people. Pretend I own the thing, and tell people no, in other people's communities to make people feel uncomfortable.

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