Oolong's Pilaf Arc Outfit

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Oolong's Pilaf Arc Outfit

Post by Turtle Marked Stone » Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:52 am

Does Oolong's Chinese communist uniform in the Pilaf arc mean anything? Was he wearing it for a reason or did Toriyama just think it was neat looking and toss it on him? DB Wikia seems to think this was some sort of political commentary by Toriyama but that seems out of character to me.

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Re: Oolong's Pilaf Arc Outfit

Post by Fox666 » Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:02 am

He is a parody of a "communist pig", he seems to be more specifically based on Mao Tse-Tung

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Post by Turtle Marked Stone » Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:06 am

Fox666 wrote:He is a parody of a "communist pig"
Holy shit! That seems so obvious in hindsight. Haha wow, I really hope I'm not the last person in the world to catch this. My mind has been blown, thanks for chiming in.

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Post by violadude » Wed Apr 27, 2011 11:54 am

Haha you're not the last person. I didn't ralize it either until now.

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Re: Oolong's Pilaf Arc Outfit

Post by GotenDaisuki » Wed Apr 27, 2011 11:56 am

Likewise. I would have never guessed Oolong was a parody of two things, a character in Journey to the West and a "communist pig". Very interesting.
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Re: Oolong's Pilaf Arc Outfit

Post by KiddoCabbusses » Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:08 pm

So, if Oolong's a Communist Pig, would that make Puar a Corperate Fat Cat?

.... naaaaaaah.

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Post by kaialone » Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:55 pm

Fox666 wrote:He is a parody of a "communist pig", he seems to be more specifically based on Mao Tse-Tung

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Isnt his name "Máo Zédōng" ? *getsshot*
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Post by Scarz » Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:02 pm

Oolong is parody of an actually communist? I learn something new here everyday.

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Post by kemuri07 » Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:25 pm

Fox666 wrote:He is a parody of a "communist pig", he seems to be more specifically based on Mao Tse-Tung

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Wow...that's...wow.

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Re: Oolong's Pilaf Arc Outfit

Post by Godo » Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:30 pm

Other than his design and clothes, I don't find anything with Oolong that points to him being communistic or having communistic ideals at all.
Sure, I agree with him probably being a parody of Mao, but Oolong's lifestyle reeks of capitalism (materialistic wealth, such as the luxury he gave to the abducted girld) and dictatorship (rule of the village more or less, and rule with fear). Maybe it's a link to how communist leaders surround themselves with wealth and women whilst their people suffer (like with Kim Il Jong).


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Post by Herms » Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:45 pm

Fox666 wrote:He is a parody of a "communist pig"
What's a "communist pig"?
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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:47 pm

Herms wrote:
Fox666 wrote:He is a parody of a "communist pig"
What's a "communist pig"?
I searched it on Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Bachmann
Wikipedia wrote:Bachmann approached Dutschke, whom he had never met, in the street, having found out his address from the Einwohnermeldeamt, the registration office. Asking him if he was really Rudi Dutschke, he took out a gun and shot him in the head. Later on he told the judge that he had done it out of hate, calling Dutschke a dirty communist pig.
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Re: Oolong's Pilaf Arc Outfit

Post by Herms » Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:01 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:
Wikipedia wrote:Bachmann approached Dutschke, whom he had never met, in the street, having found out his address from the Einwohnermeldeamt, the registration office. Asking him if he was really Rudi Dutschke, he took out a gun and shot him in the head. Later on he told the judge that he had done it out of hate, calling Dutschke a dirty communist pig.
I don't know, I really doubt Toriyama had that in mind when designing Oolong. Maybe he did have Mao in mind at least (that style of clothes is known as a Mao suit in the West, though not in Japan), but I don't think there's any real significance to it other than how at the time DB had a quasi-Chinese setting and that suit's a stereotypical Chinese outfit.
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Re: Oolong's Pilaf Arc Outfit

Post by Adamant » Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:13 pm

kaialone wrote:
Fox666 wrote:He is a parody of a "communist pig", he seems to be more specifically based on Mao Tse-Tung

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Isnt his name "Máo Zédōng" ? *getsshot*
Wade-Giles spelling VS Pinyin spelling. Both are correct.

As for the suit, I don't think there's much of a reason behind it. You see them every now and then in various Japanese media without any kind of intended connotations. I remember Ranma wearing one at a point, I really doubt that was supposed to imply anything.
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Re: Oolong's Pilaf Arc Outfit

Post by kaialone » Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:14 pm

Adamant wrote:
kaialone wrote:
Fox666 wrote:He is a parody of a "communist pig", he seems to be more specifically based on Mao Tse-Tung

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Isnt his name "Máo Zédōng" ? *getsshot*
Wade-Giles spelling VS Pinyin spelling. Both are correct
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Re: Oolong's Pilaf Arc Outfit

Post by Ashura » Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:18 pm

Fox666 wrote:He is a parody of a "communist pig", he seems to be more specifically based on Mao Tse-Tung
Isn't Oolong called MaoMao in the Harmony Gold dub? Interesting that it's so on the nose.
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Re: Oolong's Pilaf Arc Outfit

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:57 pm

Herms wrote:
Piccolo Daimao wrote:
Wikipedia wrote:Bachmann approached Dutschke, whom he had never met, in the street, having found out his address from the Einwohnermeldeamt, the registration office. Asking him if he was really Rudi Dutschke, he took out a gun and shot him in the head. Later on he told the judge that he had done it out of hate, calling Dutschke a dirty communist pig.
I don't know, I really doubt Toriyama had that in mind when designing Oolong. Maybe he did have Mao in mind at least (that style of clothes is known as a Mao suit in the West, though not in Japan), but I don't think there's any real significance to it other than how at the time DB had a quasi-Chinese setting and that suit's a stereotypical Chinese outfit.
Nor did I, really. For some reason, it doesn't seem like something Toriyama would do. But then again, there are people who say that General Blue is a parody of the Nazis, made doubly funny by the fact that he's a homosexual (which the Nazis were against). But I haven't heard anything confirmed like that; it could just be people pointing out the fact that General Blue has blonde hair, blue eyes and a costume that could be said to have similarities to, I think, the SS uniform.
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