Yajirobe vs Chiaotzu Saiyan Saga

[Kirby456]

Yajirobe vs Chiaotzu in the Saiyan Saga: who do you think wins? I'm going with Yajirobe since his power level is 970, and Chiaotzu's is around 600. In terms of potential, Yajirobe far outclasses Chiaotzu. Well, Chiaotzu trained hard as hell to get a power level of 610, while Yajirobe sat on his @@@@ and ate food and got to 970.

[Fox666]

Yajirone was likely stronger to begin with, since the first time he was introduced he matched 22nd Budokai Goku. So it's not a surprise that he was still stronger after they trained.

However, can you measure Chaozu magical abilities? I am not sure if pure Ki size is everything to take in account

[Piccolo Daimao]

Chaozu would've been training his ass off and actually wants to fight the Saiyans. Yajirobe would've lazed around for most of the year, didn't even want to fight the Saiyans in the first place, sat on his ass eating while the others refined their skills after God's training and didn't go to fight the Saiyans. I think Chaozu would win.

[Kingdom Heartless]

It's kind of why I have that theory about Yajirobe possibly having the most potential out of all the humans.

[Piccolo Daimao]

It's kind of why I have that theory about Yajirobe possibly having the most potential out of all the humans.

Because he ended up rivaling 22nd TB Goku and Tenshinhan without having any formal training? Yeah, I can see your point. If he actually trained hard enough, he'd keep ahead of Kuririn and the others. But I don't think he has more potential than Tenshinhan.

But I don't think he was stronger than Chaozu after training with God. I think he didn't train as hard as the others, and fell behind them as a result.

[Kirby456]

It's kind of why I have that theory about Yajirobe possibly having the most potential out of all the humans.

thats what i think, Yajirobe barley trained and yet he jumped to 970 from 167 with out even trying.Also post God tranning Yajirobe is stronger then Chiaotzu. http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2 ... levels.jpg. Yajirobe at 970 and Chiaotzu at 610.

[CatouttaHell]

By my numbers:

Chaozu - 1,250
Yajirobe - 240

Chaozu rapestomps.

[Kirby456]

By my numbers:

Chaozu - 1,250
Yajirobe - 240

Chaozu rapestomps.

V Jump Power levels state

Yajirobe - 970
Chiaotzu - 610

Yajirobe stomps, not trying to be rude, but the V Jump Power Levels are official

[CatouttaHell]

I really don't give a crap what the V-Jump numbers say.

[Kaboom]

Yajirobe's been a relative power-house since day one. Remember when he was schooling King Piccolo's spawnlings and going toe-to-toe with Goku during his first appearance?

[CatouttaHell]

Son Goku was way stronger than Yajirobe IMO. Cymbal was many times weaker than Tambourine and he gave Yajirobe trouble, while Son massacred Tambourine. I think Goku was fighting Yajirobe at what He called "match level" but that's just me. When Goku got serious against Tambourine and Piccolo Yajirobe was freaked out.

And there's no way Yajirobe is at 970. That level blatantly contradicts the manga (what else is new?) as Toriyama emphasised very much that Yajirobe didn't give a fuck and spent all of his time at Kami-sama's Lookout eating. The closest he came to training is wearing a weighted shirt, which he took off as soon as he could get away with it.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

While the 970 does seem a bit much, I think he did train hard enough. I mean, surpassing Kami in a yr is impressive. I just don't think he refined his skills on earth once the training was finished.

But yeah, while Goku was impressed with his strength, I doubt he was at a level where he could comfortably erase Tambourine. At one point, I thought Yaji was stronger than Tien based on what Goku said, but....I sorta changed my mind on that.

[Scorpio Kardia]

Well they were both more powerful than Kami. As he stated that all of them had surpassed him. (page 104 of Volume 2)

With that being said i don't see anything wrong with Yajirobe being at 970 and Chiaotzu at 610.

Even if Yajirobe didn't train hard after leaving Kami's palace, i can see him being more powerful than Chiaotzu. He was already powerful enough to take on the blows of Goku after he recovered from his fight with Tambourine. And as for the Cymbal fight it really doesn't mean much, i think Yajirobe started the fight easy and got hit because of it, but afterwards he had no problem finishing him off. Even Karin states Yajirobe is an amazing guy for being able to climb the tower with Goku on his back.

As for Chiaotzu, we know he was easily defeated and KO'ed by Tao Pai Pai who was by far weaker than Tienshinhan, he then kept training and surpassed Kami but Tienshinhan thinks he should stay behind and not battle the saiyans. (page 128 of Volume 2)

So when i think about it a battle power of 610 as stated in Daizenshuu 7 and the other guides fits Chiaotzu rather well, however with his special powers i could see him defeat Yajirobe.

So i think Chiaotzu would win in a fight even though he is weaker than Yajirobe in the Saiyan Saga.

[ThunderPX]

I really don't give a crap what the V-Jump numbers say.

That seems like a great way to win debates.

[CatouttaHell]

I really don't give a crap what the V-Jump numbers say.

That seems like a great way to win debates.

Yeah god forbid anybody disregard the inaccurate V-Jump numbers and go by manga implications.

[Fox666]

That's the Weekly Jump, not the V-Jump. The V-Jump is the one that lists Kuririn at 75,000 etc.

It's not like Yajirobe was completely useless at that time. He withstand a few hits of Vegeta (injuried) with a "oohhh, my nose, that hurts" reaction.

[VegettoEX]

Consider this your one free warning about the sarcastic responses. Either converse politely with your peers, or don't bother posting at all.

[Kirby456]

Yajirobe's been a relative power-house since day one. Remember when he was schooling King Piccolo's spawnlings and going toe-to-toe with Goku during his first appearance?

It's amazing. Chiaotzu trained his ass of and got to 610 (note that this does not mean Chiaotzu is weak; it just means his potential is lower than the other humans). Yajiorbe didn't even try and he hit 970. That's pretty impressive, don't ya think? What would have happened if Yajirobe went full out on Kami's Lookout? I bet he would have surpassed Piccolo. Another question -- what if Yajirobe was killed by Vegeta and ended up on King Kai's planet? How would he do in training if he went full out? Also, when Vegeta was on the floor defeated, Yajirobe was about to eat him-- what the heck!? On topic, I think Yajirobe having the higher power level than Chiaotzu (means he) would probably evade Chiaotzu's psychic attacks (like Yajirobe did to Cymbal) and win in a close battle.

[VegettoEX]

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[Kirby456]

Please stop responding in random colors -- this is explicitly noted in the forum rules. Your posts are expected to be clean and legible.

all right I'm sorry.