DBZ: Ultimate Blast/Tenkaichi (Pre-Release Discussion)

[Ultimate_DB_Fan]

Here's hoping that it's a sequel to Burst Limit. The RB series just ain't doin' it. I'd rather play Super DBZ than those, heh.

I completely agree. I'm so sick of the Raging Blast games. I doubt they would come out with a Burst Limit 2 after such a long time, but I'm all for a game that plays like Burst Limit. Actually, give me a non-sucky Dragonball Sagas darnit!

Glad to see I'm not the only one that feels the same way.

My take on how a DB game should be is something along the lines of being a hybrid comprising of Burst Limit's gameplay, and the new Mortal Kombat's tag team integration. Even Street Fighter X Tekken (which is on the way later in the year), will have the option of tag team. With that at your disposal, there's many possibilities to explore. Granted, the RB titles have that, but the cloned fighters over-shadow it.

There's no denying that the RB games have their fans and following, but the gameplay in those titles is simply too shallow. To boot, being as how they're so below the radar, the appearance of any type of Tenkaichi/RB game on tournament grounds would cultivate nothing but uncontrollable laughter. I mean, damn, when you sell a butt-load less than your predecessor, that should be a clear message that people simply want more for what they're paying, and are getting tired of the same old thing.

[Hellspawn28]

The page uses a Zenkai Battle Royale image on their page, so it could be a possible port maybe? E3 is coming soon in another month or two, so let's wait and find out. And there is always the Tokyo gameshow as well.

[VegettoEX]

The page uses a Zenkai Battle Royale image on their page

Please, folks, stop putting any stock in what random sites that don't live and breathe DBZ put up as images alongside posts like this. Some are putting "Zenkai Battle Royale", some are putting "Raging Blast 2", and some (the smart ones!) aren't putting anything at all.

I'll reiterate what I said in the other thread:

Go back to the actual source for this kind of stuff, folks. As of right this very second, the Tales fansite/blog has supposed information from next week's Jump that states:

• Dragon Ball GAME PROJECT AGE 2011
• Scheduled for Fall 2011
• Price TBD
• Coming from Namco-Bandai
• Coming to PS3 & 360
• 3D action fighting

That's it. It doesn't say, "Oh hey, this game is Zenkai Battle Royale". It doesn't say anything else. At all.

This all being said, the same Tales site is the one who (last November) posted up information confirming the inclusion of the "Ultimate Butoden" announcement in that next week's issue of Jump, and we saw the page to confirm it later that same day. I have no reason to doubt them with this one again. Like last year, though, I'll wait until I see the actual page from Jump before rushing to any conclusions/confirmations.

[SSJSteve]

Not sure if this helps with anything, but Sean Schemmel is back on Twitter, he posted this Tweet:

I can't discuss the details but be on the lookout for a new DBZ game this year! Am flying out to record very soon!

Link

If he's referring to the game you guys are talking about, I guess that pretty much confirms a North American release.

*Ignore my Tweets to Sean, I asked him about the Ocean Dub, I think he got a bit upset about it*

[Jaruka]

Not sure if this helps with anything, but Sean Schemmel is back on Twitter, he posted this Tweet:

I can't discuss the details but be on the lookout for a new DBZ game this year! Am flying out to record very soon!

Link

If he's referring to the game you guys are talking about, I guess that pretty much confirms a North American release.

*Ignore my Tweets to Sean, I asked him about the Ocean Dub, I think he got a bit upset about it*

Oh the wonders of Twitter. It's definitely a main-console game. Unless they decided to record voices for the new DS game, though I do doubt it.

[ThunderPX]

You'd think that by now, they'd have enough voice clips of Sean Schemmel's Goku to last them a lifetime. XD

[goku the krump dancer]

You'd think that by now, they'd have enough voice clips of Sean Schemmel's Goku to last them a lifetime. XD

Yea but also in every game they do a rescript lol.

[Eddie]

Cool. It's always nice when voice actors give these hints. I wouldn't go overboard with the speculation yet, though. It could be Ultimate Butoden he's referring too. If that game gets a US dubbed release, they'll have to bring Schemmel in for a decent session. He's the dub voice of Kaio, who wasn't previously playable. While other characters could potentially have old battle grunts/attack callouts inserted from previous games, Kaio requires a new recording session.

[Animefreak1325]

Cool. It's always nice when voice actors give these hints. I wouldn't go overboard with the speculation yet, though. It could be Ultimate Butoden he's referring too. If that game gets a US dubbed release, they'll have to bring Schemmel in for a decent session. He's the dub voice of Kaio, who wasn't previously playable. While other characters could potentially have old battle grunts/attack callouts inserted from previous games, Kaio requires a new recording session.

I actually do hope it's Ultimate Butouden that he's talking about. We haven't really had any fighting games for Dragon Ball on the DS yet, so it would be nice to have a North American release for the game.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

Really hoping this game brings something new to the table.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

No offense to anyone wanting this to be a Ultimate Butouden release outside Japan, but having already bought, played, and beaten the Japanese version, I'm wanting something new.

To be honest Raging Blast 3 (with more tweaks to combat) or Zenkai Battle Royale would be my top choices if it isn't something entirely new, but I would absolutely love a home reversioning of Heroes. Give me everything the original offers, but because the arcade game uses real cards, change it to play like a super version of Legendary Super Warriors with some more fun twists and stuff.

[Jaruka]

No offense to anyone wanting this to be a Ultimate Butouden release outside Japan, but having already bought, played, and beaten the Japanese version, I'm wanting something new.

To be honest Raging Blast 3 (with more tweaks to combat) or Zenkai Battle Royale would be my top choices if it isn't something entirely new, but I would absolutely love a home reversioning of Heroes. Give me everything the original offers, but because the arcade game uses real cards, change it to play like a super version of Legendary Super Warriors with some more fun twists and stuff.

Well it's not, this game is confirmed as PS3/360 already, the DS thing was based on what game Schemmel's Tweet was based on. It's just this seems a bit premature for him to already be voicing a new PS3/360 game given how long it'll be till release and they'd still have lots of tweaking to do.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Well it's not, this game is confirmed as PS3/360 already, the DS thing was based on what game Schemmel's Tweet was based on. It's just this seems a bit premature for him to already be voicing a new PS3/360 game given how long it'll be till release and they'd still have lots of tweaking to do.

I was talking about Schemmel's quote. I'm aware of what platforms the unnamed game is to be released on, its part of the few bits of info we have. I already put my input in on that on page 1...though this set of two cents is practically the same, because I don't want the game Schemmel is flying in to voice to be Ultimate Butouden.

[Jaruka]

Well it's not, this game is confirmed as PS3/360 already, the DS thing was based on what game Schemmel's Tweet was based on. It's just this seems a bit premature for him to already be voicing a new PS3/360 game given how long it'll be till release and they'd still have lots of tweaking to do.

I was talking about Schemmel's quote. I'm aware of what platforms the unnamed game is to be released on, its part of the few bits of info we have. I already put my input in on that on page 1...though this set of two cents is practically the same, because I don't want the game Schemmel is flying in to voice to be Ultimate Butouden.

Fair enough man, I've seen you around so I figured you knew but it's always best to make sure anyway. Like I said though, it's unlikely they'd do voice work this early unless it's all preparation stuff. Exciting times ahead though, can't wait for a scan or some screenshots so we can actually know something about this game :p

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Fair enough man, I've seen you around so I figured you knew but it's always best to make sure anyway. Like I said though, it's unlikely they'd do voice work this early unless it's all preparation stuff. Exciting times ahead though, can't wait for a scan or some screenshots so we can actually know something about this game :p

I don't know, they apparently did the new voice work for Raging Blast 2 fairly early as well since they had to switch to the Kai cast and since they didn't take the time to include a dub track for PtEtSS (not that I personally cared about it being left out lol) it makes me think the special wasn't done before they went into the studio. That's really odd to me too, since games go gold quite a while before release and all that. I know there could be more reasons than just that anyway, but it seems kind of odd to me. I know most people record the audio first so they can attempt to match lip movements, but that doesn't seem to be the case for DBZ games, because the movements don't match either voice option. XD

Regardless, like you, I'm trying to wait patiently for a scan or something, though I'll probably be more excited just waiting for said scan so the mystery can be solved than the game itself...unless they can really "wow" me.

[Jaruka]

Fair enough man, I've seen you around so I figured you knew but it's always best to make sure anyway. Like I said though, it's unlikely they'd do voice work this early unless it's all preparation stuff. Exciting times ahead though, can't wait for a scan or some screenshots so we can actually know something about this game :p

I don't know, they apparently did the new voice work for Raging Blast 2 fairly early as well since they had to switch to the Kai cast, but they didn't take the time to include a dub track for PtEtSS (not that I personally cared about it being left out lol). I know there could be more reasons than just that, but it seems kind of odd to me. I know most people record the audio first so they can attempt to match lip movements, but that doesn't seem to be the case for DBZ games, because the movements don't match either voice option. XD

Regardless, like you, I'm trying to wait patiently for a scan or something, though I'll probably be more excited just waiting for said scan so the mystery can be solved than the game itself...unless they can really "wow" me.

Well, if it's not Raging Blast 3 or Zenkai then I'll be at least partially impressed already.

That said, Zenaki would really, really excite me and if Raging Blast 3 looks dramatically different in the first few scans then I could dig it. If it's just Raging Blast 3 I'll probably wait for a price drop before I get it but Zenkai would be a Day 1 buy.

Also, as to the voice acting. It would explain why their timing is always crappy

[SSJmole]

If it's not Raging Blast 3 , I'll buy it.
If it is Raging Blast 3, I will not buy it.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Well, if it's not Raging Blast 3 or Zenkai then I'll be at least partially impressed already.

That said, Zenaki would really, really excite me and if Raging Blast 3 looks dramatically different in the first few scans then I could dig it. If it's just Raging Blast 3 I'll probably wait for a price drop before I get it but Zenkai would be a Day 1 buy.

I'd enjoy if RB3 found some nice middle ground visually between what we had in games 1 and 2. We wouldn't really know anything about combat changes until a demo appears somewhere at a show, or until we see a commercial. Though I'm sure they'd continue to whore out the characters (though I like that, I won't lie). I don't know, I'll just have to wait and see.

As for Zenkai, If they are porting it for a home release, I'm hoping for a few more characters at least as the pickings are slim for the arcade. They have Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Future Trunks, Kuririn, Nappa, Frieza (Final Form), 18, 16, Cell (Perfect) I think? Assuming they'd only go to the Cell Arc, then at least give me Gohan, 17, maybe Tenshinhan and Yamcha. Oh, and throw in some Super forms for the Saiyans if they aren't in the arcade version already. I'd at least like some basics covered, you know?

[Jaruka]

If it's not Raging Blast 3 , I'll buy it.
If it is Raging Blast 3, I will not buy it.

From what I've seen around the net this is the general idea. Makes me wonder if Raging Blast 3 would be the final nail in the coffin.

Well, if it's not Raging Blast 3 or Zenkai then I'll be at least partially impressed already.

That said, Zenaki would really, really excite me and if Raging Blast 3 looks dramatically different in the first few scans then I could dig it. If it's just Raging Blast 3 I'll probably wait for a price drop before I get it but Zenkai would be a Day 1 buy.

I'd enjoy if RB3 found some nice middle ground visually between what we had in games 1 and 2. We wouldn't really know anything about combat changes until a demo appears somewhere at a show, or until we see a commercial. Though I'm sure they'd continue to whore out the characters (though I like that, I won't lie). I don't know, I'll just have to wait and see.

As for Zenkai, If they are porting it for a home release, I'm hoping for a few more characters at least as the pickings are slim for the arcade. They have Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Future Trunks, Kuririn, Nappa, Freeza (Final Form), 18, 16, Cell (Perfect) I think? Assuming they'd only go to the Cell Arc, then at least give me Gohan, 17, maybe Tenshinhan and Yamcha. Oh, and throw in some Super forms for the Saiyans if they aren't in the arcade version already. I'd at least like some basics covered, you know?

I would actually prefer the original's graphics. I actually meant a bit more like camera, I'm sick of the same-looking game again and again. Even if the combat barely changes a unique camera view could make me a bit more sold on the idea. I like it too, as guilty as I feel there's always part of me that finds it really exciting to guess the roster and get excited by a reveal every month... That said... Maybe a third game could just round the series off

Well yeah, I'd hope if this is Zenkai (or perhaps it's Raging Blast 3 using Zenkai's system... Now that would have potential ) we'll see the same level of character whoring we're used to as it's only the gameplay of Zenkai that I'm really into and whilst I don't want stupid characters like Tien's disabled niece that appeared for half a second in a Capsule Corp party (hyperbole but you get what I mean).

One question though, if we move into new territory do we get rid of Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta and Broly indefinitely?

[mysticboy]

Something tells me it's gonna be Raging Blast 3 with 4 players (maybe more) like Zenkai or Tag Vs. It might even be called something like "Raging Blast 3: Zenkai Battle Royale" (if this is a port).