Ever proven that (X) Buu is weaker/stronger than (Y) Buu?

[Piccolo Daimao]

Shouldn't this be in the In-Universe Discussion forum?

[SuperForteX]

You guys still seem to be missing my point. My point is, Adamant is stating his opinion as though it is a fact. In calling him out on it, I get ganged up on by half the board. What gives?

Your most authoritative DragonBall discussion board

A board that makes this claim should have zero tollerance for anyone, no matter how long they've been a regular, that passes their own personal opinion off as though it were fact.

That's the bottom line of what I was getting at. Please don't misslead other fans into thinking this is all concrete and "long-since proven" as you guys are trying to imply.

NONE of it is.

[VegettoEX]

Near as I can tell, you're the one that's been snippy and showcasing some 'tude every single time someone responds. You go out of your way to bold-expand the text of someone stating an assumption and an opinion as if that's somehow not even worth of what horrifically little time you can possibly spend reading of your fellow fans' conversation.

Everyone's been perfectly pleasant to you (particularly since many of them are non-native English speakers and are putting extra effort into conversing with you), but you seem to be completely blind to this. Knock it off immediately.

[CatouttaHell]

I just want to point out that according to Herms' Strength Checker, we see that since there is no plural in Japanese we can't know for sure whether or not Kaioshin meant ONE absorption made Chibi Boo weaker or they both did. Also Goku and Vegeta laughed at Chibi Boo's body and said it shrunk but nowhere did it say his Ki shrunk. Considering all the hell he gave them I think it's very fair to say that he was way stronger than they thought. Vegeta even dismissed the idea of bringing Chou Gohan and SSjin 3 Gotenks in to fight Chibi Boo AS A TEAM instantly and proposed the supposedly far more difficult idea of creating a Genki Dama. He later stated if another Chibi Boo was created it would be the end of the world.

And that's manga-wise, Anime-wise Chibi Boo is the strongest character anywhere ever because of Toei logic.

[Herms]

Also Goku and Vegeta laughed at Chibi Boo's body and said it shrunk but nowhere did it say his Ki shrunk.

Something I've been meaning to add a note about in the Strength Checker is that the verb used there, chijimu, is always used throughout DB to refer to actual bodies shrinking, never to ki going down.

[Kaboom]

Yet with how they reacted to "Buff" Boo's Ki increasing right before that, compared to how they were laughing him off now, it seems obvious that his Ki must have shrunk down as well along with his size. Plus, insert mention of "Goku refuses to fight Super Boo, but is eager and able to fight Kid Boo" here, etc.

[SuperForteX]

it seems obvious that his Ki must have shrunk down as well along with his size.

It "seems obvious" to certain fans. Others have a different opinion all together.

[Bussani]

You guys still seem to be missing my point. My point is, Adamant is stating his opinion as though it is a fact. In calling him out on it, I get ganged up on by half the board. What gives?

You didn't call him out on it. You asked him to back up his facts, and he did. But that aside, if you can tell it's his opinion and not a fact, then I'm sure just about everyone else can, too. Honestly, how can anyone mistake a post full of "So that means" and "this should means" for a fact?

it seems obvious that his Ki must have shrunk down as well along with his size.

It "seems obvious" to certain fans. Others have a different opinion all together.

So...is it just going to be your job to jump in with "That's just your opinion!" from now on?

[SuperForteX]

You guys still seem to be missing my point. My point is, Adamant is stating his opinion as though it is a fact. In calling him out on it, I get ganged up on by half the board. What gives?

You didn't call him out on it. You asked him to back up his facts, and he did.

I was sardonically asking him to back it up, knowing he couldn't; because those particular facts simply don't exist. Something I probably shouldn't have done, and VegettoEX has called me out on. For which, I apologize.

However, what he posted was evidence that proved that Kid Buu with South Kaioshin absorbed (henceforth known as "Buff Buu") is stronger than Super Buu. That is what the quotes he posted proves. It speaks absolutly nothing about "Buff Buu" being stronger than Kid Buu. THIS is the point I was trying to get at.

Indeed, if you were one of those fans of the opinion that absorbing Kaioshins dillutes Buu's evil power, and makes him weaker, then that would mean Kid Buu > Buff Buu > Super/Fat Buu. I'm not saying this is fact, but I am saying it's one possiblity, and one that many fans that do consider Kid Buu the strongest hold dear.

And please let us not forget that there isn't a definitive answer to this question from an official source. At all.

But that aside, if you can tell it's his opinion and not a fact, then I'm sure just about everyone else can, too. Honestly, how can anyone mistake a post full of "So that means" and "this should means" for a fact?

Most of this was directed towards Adamant. The reason I got set off, is he so matter of factly insisted that the manga states Buff Buu > Kid Buu, in actuality his post only proved Buff Buu > Super Buu, something most fans should already know, based on the pages he posted. My point is, his matter-of-fact statements towards such could very well misslead fans who have come to trust DaizenshuuEX as an authoritative source of information, based on the fact that no one was disputing his claim.

So...is it just going to be your job to jump in with "That's just your opinion!" from now on?

It should be all of our jobs... and it only applies when said opinions are passed off as a fact. It would be assinine to do what I'm doing here if he had made it very clear that he wasn't stating known facts published in the manga. However, when opinions are pawned off as facts to misslead the uninformed, then damn right someone should call them out on it.

Doesn't VegettoEX say to keep things clean around here? That goes for more than just grammar. However, I digress. The way I went about doing it was wrong, and has now turned the entire board against me.

[Bussani]

It should be all of our jobs... and it only applies when said opinions are passed off as a fact. It would be assinine to do what I'm doing here if he had made it very clear that he wasn't stating known facts published in the manga. However, when opinions are pawned off as facts to misslead the uninformed, then damn right someone should call them out on it.

I just don't get the impression that Adamant was trying to do that. Personally, I don't like the idea that everyone has to add "that's just my opinion" to everything they post just so some dum-dum doesn't take it as a fact. If someone takes something as a fact when no source is cited, that's their own fault. But okay--I do see what you were going for. There's certainly nothing wrong with pointing out another perspective.

[SuperForteX]

It's common prose in a general sense, yes, but in his case he was continually insinuating that what he was saying was undeniable fact. If, after my first post, he had said; "Well I don't have evidence for that specifically, however I feel this way...", then the matter would have concluded right then and there.

Attitude and rudeness aside, if you read the flow of dialog between Adamant and myself in this thread, you should be able to see where I got frustrated and why.

And you'll also see that I am right. If anything I said about it not being fact is wrong, please correct me, by all means; otherwise, please appreciate that I was trying to do something good for this board...

[Fox666]

Even in the manga, for me it feels like it was the Dai Kaioshin who weakened Majin Boo. The fact that Boo first took the South Kaioshin form, suggests it took a while until he absorbed the Dai Kaioshin too, and the story was that after that Majin Boo became more controllable, or do I miss something?

Either way, it should be obvious that the Pure Boo is weaker without the South Kaioshin, since he was even stronger than Evil Boo, whom Goku was scared to fight. Overall Evil Boo was built to be a opponent stronger than Goku, which Gotenks (who surpassed Goku) was supposed to defeat. So what's the big deal?

[SuperForteX]

Well think about it from this perspective.

Say you interpret Babidi saying "We can't use the Kaioshin's energy to fuel Buu", and then seeing the Potara dispel inside Buu as meaning: "Kaioshin energy and Buu energy are not compatible."

Now supposing you think that Kid Buu is at a certain level of strength, then he absorbs South Kaioshin. His power goes down as a result, but he still takes South kaioshin's appearance.

Then he absorbs Dai Kaioshin, again taking the appearance, but then his power goes down yet again.

THEN Fat Buu splits into good and evil, evil absorbs good, and thus the influence of the kaioshin is somewhat diluted. He still retains enough of their influence to have a mind and a soul, but his power is less restrained. Hence, Super Buu being stronger than Fat Buu, but still being weaker than Buff Buu.

Then supposing that the Kaisohin's get peeled out of him (which is what happens), first he reverts to "Buff" while his power goes up, then he reverts all the way back to pure "while his power still goes up.

So as you can see, there are ways of explaining it for either camp. The only contradiction really is the whole Goku saying they can't win statement. Even that begins to lose weight when you closely examine Goku's statements and the circumstances revolving around the Kid Buu fight.

But that is neither here, nor there. It doesn't look like this topic is meant for actually hashing out the debate, although that is what is happening either way, but about what/how people convince others which is stronger.

If you believe Kid Buu > Super Buu, and many do, then it's not at all obvious that Buff Buu > Super Buu. In fact, it's just outright wrong to them.

Anyway, as we can see, having Buff Buu being declared stronger than Super Buu throws a monkey wrench into declaring Super Buu > Kid Buu. If the logic that the more people he has absorbed the stronger he is, then Super should be > Buff, but he isn't.

They claim Dai Kaioshin alone suppresses his power, and he's a special case, but was this ever stated? It was not. But statements that "Kaioshin's energy can't be used in Buu" by Babidi and Dabra are made, and refer just to East Kaioshin, who is presumably no more special than South Kaioshin.

Kinda' makes you step back and think, doesn't it? Anyway, I like Herm's take on the matter, myself. And that is, that it's hard to tell who's stronger than who from in-universe, so it's one of the few "in-universe" things that has to be discussed out-of-universe. And in that sense, it becomes much more vague what Akira Toriyama was going for.

Throughout the entire second half of the manga, certain conventions are followed.

"The little one is the strongest"
Vegeta is smaller than Nappa, and everyone was surprised by it. Freeza's true form was small compared to 2nd and 3rd form. Everyone was surprised, Krillin even commenting that he doesn't look as scary anymore. Cell's complete form is smaller than his 2nd form. Vegeta even comments about this. I vaguely remember Toriyama even touching on this in an interview, although I don't recall which, so take that with a grain of salt.

"The last villain is the strongest"
Goes without saying, but it's been this way for every other major story arc.

"The final battle is the most climactic"
If you truly believe Gotenks and Gohan could have wiped Buu out easily, then the Goku vs Buu battle really isn't that climactic at all, now is it?

From an out-universe perspective, it seems almost entirely overwhelming that Kid Buu should be stronger. And this may very well be why Toei ran with the idea, so much so, that Buu's stated as such numerous times in their anime.

And why so many card games and video games since then also state as such..

[Zephyr]

Well think about it from this perspective.
"The last villain is the strongest"
Goes without saying, but it's been this way for every other major story arc.

"The final battle is the most climactic"
If you truly believe Gotenks and Gohan could have wiped Buu out easily, then the Goku vs Buu battle really isn't that climactic at all, now is it?

You forgot about

"A new transformation saves the day"

[Fox666]

Say you interpret Babidi saying "We can't use the Kaioshin's energy to fuel Buu", and then seeing the Potara dispel inside Buu as meaning: "Kaioshin energy and Buu energy are not compatible."

That's purely hypothetical.

Besides, it was explained that the reason why the power decreased after absorbing the Dai Kaioshin was because he was a good being.

Chapter: 508 (DBZ 314), P4.2-7
Kaioshin: “In m…my era there were five Kaioshins…until they were defeated by the Majin Boo that the wizard Babidi created…I was the youngest and most powerless one, but I somehow survived, with only heavy injuries…But the other four fell to Boo…First, two were killed…the North Kaioshin and the West Kaioshin….And then the South Kaioshin, the burliest and strongest one, was…somehow absorbed by Boo….. “
Elder Kaioshin: …And he became that huge Boo from before? “
Kaioshin: “…Yes…Next to be absorbed was the fat but kind and gentle Dai-Kaioshin….The Majin Boo that Bibidi created was evil itself, a failed creation that even Bibidi himself couldn’t handle, but by absorbing the Dai-Kaioshin, he somehow become controllable…. “
Elder Kaioshin: “…So he was finally complete…Which is to say…that this current…small Majin Boo…is the initial…mo…most troublesome one…”
Kaioshin: “….Yes…the heart which he gained by going so far as to lower his power through absorption…has returned once again to the way it was…he has no self-control whatsoever…he has become evil itself…”

So overall this seems to have little to do with Kaio species.

THEN Fat Buu splits into good and evil, evil absorbs good, and thus the influence of the kaioshin is somewhat diluted. He still retains enough of their influence to have a mind and a soul, but his power is less restrained. Hence, Super Buu being stronger than Fat Buu, but still being weaker than Buff Buu.

There isn't any proof that Evil Boo having more power than the Majin Boo revived by Babidi has anything to do with the influence of the two Kaioshin he absorbed.

As far I am concerned Toriyama only came with the idea of the Kaioshins absorbed by the fat Majin Boo much later in the series. As you might notice, after Majin Boo split, both of his parts still wear Dai Kaioshin clothes. So it's unlikely that the Dai Kaioshin influence had anything to do with it.

So as you can see, there are ways of explaining it for either camp. The only contradiction really is the whole Goku saying they can't win statement. Even that begins to lose weight when you closely examine Goku's statements and the circumstances revolving around the Kid Buu fight.

No, it don't loose any weight. It isn't a isolate case, there many circunstances which suggests that Evil Boo was superior to Goku.

Besides, you are throwing away the fact that Goku wanted to fuse with Vegeta to fight Evil Boo. Goku was very disturbed by the idea he would stay all of his life merged with Gohan, why all of a sudden he changed his mind? If he wanted to hide his Super Saiyan 3 to Vegeta (or what explanation you might have) why he didn't simply asked Vegeta to look the other way? And as you might remember, Goku didn't relied the Porata anymore when it comes to fight Pure Boo.

Anyway, as we can see, having Buff Buu being declared stronger than Super Buu throws a monkey wrench into declaring Super Buu > Kid Buu. If the logic that the more people he has absorbed the stronger he is, then Super should be > Buff, but he isn't.

I didn't get what you are saiyng. I suppose that's only a real problem if you are too much concerned about "battle powers list" of such.

Perhaps the South Kaioshin was just freaking strong, to the point absorbing him made Pure Boo even stronger than Evil Boo. Or the bulky Boo didn't had just the South Kaioshin inside him, but also another Majin Boo, since he gradually lost his parts.

They claim Dai Kaioshin alone suppresses his power, and he's a special case, but was this ever stated? It was not. But statements that "Kaioshin's energy can't be used in Buu" by Babidi and Dabra are made, and refer just to East Kaioshin, who is presumably no more special than South Kaioshin.

If you read the lines (see the parts I bolded above) you will get that it was Dai Kaioshin influence.

"The little one is the strongest"
Vegeta is smaller than Nappa, and everyone was surprised by it. Freeza's true form was small compared to 2nd and 3rd form. Everyone was surprised, Krillin even commenting that he doesn't look as scary anymore. Cell's complete form is smaller than his 2nd form. Vegeta even comments about this. I vaguely remember Toriyama even touching on this in an interview, although I don't recall which, so take that with a grain of salt.

Cell still is tall in his perfect form.

Piccolo Daimao was incredible tall, and Ma Junior was taller than Goku too.

"The last villain is the strongest"
Goes without saying, but it's been this way for every other major story arc.

Compare it to Vegeta as an Oozaru and after he reverted back

I guess this is a good analogy, since Evil Boo and Pure Boo are still the same person, only in different forms

"The final battle is the most climactic"
If you truly believe Gotenks and Gohan could have wiped Buu out easily, then the Goku vs Buu battle really isn't that climactic at all, now is it?

They could have used the Potara... that alone makes it sort of anti-climatic

From an out-universe perspective, it seems almost entirely overwhelming that Kid Buu should be stronger. And this may very well be why Toei ran with the idea, so much so, that Buu's stated as such numerous times in their anime.

The Evil Boo was included because the fat Majin Boo was already outclassed (considering Goku's Super Saiyan 3 form), thus it required a new villain for Gotenks.

Despite Gotenks as a Super Saiyan 3 surpassing Goku, Evil Boo only acknowledged someone stronger than him when he felt Gohan's Ki.

And why so many card games and video games since then also state as such..

Because they are games...

[SuperForteX]

Good Lord, man! I'm not trying to debate about Kid Buu vs Super Buu with you. I'm simply showing you that other outlooks exist! Do you realize that by countering every one of those claims with typical Super Buu-support propaganda, and attempting to engage me in the actual debate on the subject, that you are only further proving my oringal point?

Rather than accept that other possiblites exist, you are just trying to "prove mine wrong." Yet, like so many others, you've only provided your own personal reasons for why it's wrong, and no actual proof. Therefore, you haven't proven a thing wrong. At this point you have no choice but to accept the fact that other viewpoints exist, and drop this draconian need to reject the very idea of it being possible!

With all due respect, I'll remind you that I already wrote an essay regarding Kid Buu vs Super Buu as a debate, and its relevance to the community at large. I'd like to believe that I've heard every argument for both sides dozens of times; and that, at present, I've seen nothing new come to the table in a great many years.

Anyway I don't want to come off as sounding arrogant or having attitude, or that I'm trying to copout, or dismiss you, but I simply didn't intend for this to become the debate you're trying to make it. I was just simply trying to teach you why none of this is fact. And, indeed, none of it is fact. It can't be. Ever.

However, that being said, if you really want to me respond to each of your points and actively engage you in this debate, I'm more than willing to the play the role of the devil's advocate and "prove to you" that Kid Buu > Super Buu.

Let me know. This is, of course, assuming that VegettoEX doesn't suspend me or ban me due to this post. I'm hope I'm being civil enough in this response. I personally believe I am, but I know my personal beliefs are radically different from those of others.

[Fox666]

Good Lord, man! I'm not trying to debate about Kid Buu vs Super Buu with you. I'm simply showing you that other outlooks exist! Do you realize that by countering every one of those claims with typical Super Buu-support propaganda, and attempting to engage me in the actual debate on the subject, that you are only further proving my oringal point?

If you make a wrong statement, you probably will get corrected. That's not propaganda, that's what will happen if you post, no matter the subject.

Rather than accept that other possiblites exist, you are just trying to "prove mine wrong." Yet, like so many others, you've only provided your own personal reasons for why it's wrong, and no actual proof. Therefore, you haven't proven a thing wrong. At this point you have no choice but to accept the fact that other viewpoints exist, and drop this draconian need to reject the very idea of it being possible!

This is a manga, I can't "scientifically prove" you wrong, if that's what you want. But in that sense I can't even prove that Goku hair is not orange.

However, I can see possibilities (I have no idea of how many times I changed my mind regarding the story). It's just that you haven't provided reasonable evidence.

With all due respect, I'll remind you that I already wrote an essay regarding Kid Buu vs Super Buu as a debate, and its relevance to the community at large. I'd like to believe that I've heard every argument for both sides dozens of times; and that, at present, I've seen nothing new come to the table in a great many years.

You might have read all of my arguments dozens of times, but you still commited very basic mistakes.

Anyway I don't want to come off as sounding arrogant or having attitude, or that I'm trying to copout, or dismiss you, but I simply didn't intend for this to become the debate you're trying to make it. I was just simply trying to teach you why none of this is fact. And, indeed, none of it is fact. It can't be. Ever.

Excuse me, but it seems like the basis for your point of view are rather questionable. I.e. Hipothesis to explain magic

[SuperForteX]

If you make a wrong statement, you probably will get corrected

How deliciously arrogant of you. Ok, then, you leave me with no choice. We're doing this.

Besides, it was explained that the reason why the power decreased after absorbing the Dai Kaioshin was because he was a good being.

You're saying South Kaioshin wasn't a good being? Nor was Gohan for that matter?

There isn't any proof that Evil Boo having more power than the Majin Boo revived by Babidi has anything to do with the influence of the two Kaioshin he absorbed.

I know. My entire point is that there's no proof for any of this. However, you're still missing my point, in saying that some people still see it this way. Just like others see it your way.

As far I am concerned Toriyama only came with the idea of the Kaioshins absorbed by the fat Majin Boo much later in the series. As you might notice, after Majin Boo split, both of his parts still wear Dai Kaioshin clothes. So it's unlikely that the Dai Kaioshin influence had anything to do with it.

And in my opinion the opposite is true. Neither of us have proof. starting to catch on yet?

No, it don't loose any weight. It isn't a isolate case, there many circunstances which suggests that Evil Boo was superior to Goku

You missed the point. It lost weight because Goku also wasn't sure that he could defeat Kid Buu. At first his thought was to hide on Kaioshin-Kai and come up with a plan. When Buu suddenly appeared, he admitted two things. #1. "I don't know if I can win, but I gotta try." #2. "I have to go all out from the start to even stand a chance."

Besides, you are throwing away the fact that Goku wanted to fuse with Vegeta to fight Evil Boo. ... Goku didn't relied the Porata anymore when it comes to fight Pure Boo.

Goku stated "We should have fused, then this'd be easy! I shouldn't have destroyed those Potara.. I was acting too cool," in regards to Kid Buu. It's you that've thrown that away, while I threw nothing away.

I didn't get what you are saiyng. I suppose that's only a real problem if you are too much concerned about "battle powers list" of such.

I'll try to explain it more carefully then.

You're saying a Buu with more people in him is the strongest, so Evil Buu is stronger than Pure Buu. Yet Bulky Buu is stronger than Evil Buu with only one person in him. How does this work?

Or the bulky Boo didn't had just the South Kaioshin inside him, but also another Majin Boo, since he gradually lost his parts.

I don't understand this. Can you please explain?

Cell still is tall in his perfect form.

Not the point. He was smaller than the previous form, and vegeta said so. "Well, so much for the long-promised transformation. He actually got smaller." <- stated in the manga. That's the point.

Piccolo Daimao was incredible tall, and Ma Junior was taller than Goku too.

While this is true, I stated in my post that this supposed precedent started in the second half of the manga, meaning this doesn't apply.

Compare it to Vegeta as an Oozaru and after he reverted back

Vegeta's still Vegeta. Kid Buu and Super Buu are pretty much different characters in that regard. Which brings me to your next statement:

I guess this is a good analogy, since Evil Boo and Pure Boo are still the same person, only in different forms

Buu doesn't seem to think so. "Don't pull him out! I won't be me anymore!"

They could have used the Potara... that alone makes it sort of anti-climatic

They destroyed it prior to Buu appearing in Kaioshin-Kai.

Despite Gotenks as a Super Saiyan 3 surpassing Goku, Evil Boo only acknowledged someone stronger than him when he felt Gohan's Ki.

Yet later when Goku appears, Buu doesn't say "this guy is weak", instead he says "It's the guy with the forms! You do realize I'm different than before, right?" As in he's saying Goku is a dangerous threat, if not for the fact that he, too, is tottally different from before.

Because they are games...

Games are still official licensed media. Why didn't you make comment about Toei's anime stating Kid Buu is stronger though?

This is a manga, I can't "scientifically prove" you wrong, if that's what you want. But in that sense I can't even prove that Goku hair is not orange.

No, that's not at all true. You can prove me wrong about stuff we know to be fact. Like the Saibamen having a power level of about 1,200. Because Nappa said so. This is what we call a 'fact' for this manga. Anyone arguing that the Saibamen were secretly stronger than Nappa and vegeta are definitively wrong. Same can be said for Goku's hair being orange. Goku's hair is depicted as black, in the color chapters too, so we know it is not orange. So if you said Goku's hair was orange, you are wrong.

Do you see what I mean? There is still fact in a fictional story. Fact established within the story itself. what we are arguing about, is an obscure idea that is not well established within the confines of the story. THAT is the true difference.

It's just that you haven't provided reasonable evidence.

I disagree, but lets see your counters to this current post before I jump the gun on anything..

but you still commited very basic mistakes.

I'll be more interested to see if you still consider them mistakes after answering to this post.

Excuse me

No harm, no foul. I'm doing this for your benifit actually.

[rereboy]

Good Lord, man! I'm not trying to debate about Kid Buu vs Super Buu with you. I'm simply showing you that other outlooks exist! Do you realize that by countering every one of those claims with typical Super Buu-support propaganda, and attempting to engage me in the actual debate on the subject, that you are only further proving my oringal point?

Rather than accept that other possiblites exist, you are just trying to "prove mine wrong." Yet, like so many others, you've only provided your own personal reasons for why it's wrong, and no actual proof. Therefore, you haven't proven a thing wrong. At this point you have no choice but to accept the fact that other viewpoints exist, and drop this draconian need to reject the very idea of it being possible!

Forums don't exist to prove anybody wrong. Forums exist so that people can participate in healthy discussions about different subjects.

Differences of opinion are implied and to be expected. Its also expected that the participants of the forum and of the discussion defend their points of view the best they can, not because they somehow want to prove somebody else's opinion wrong, but simply because they enjoy talking about it and expressing their personal take and interpretation of the subject.

Talking constantly about "that is just your opinion" or "there are other opinions" and the like, just demonstrates a flawed understanding of how a forum is supposed to work since such things are pretty much implied and understood by almost all of the members.

It seems to me that you are trying to "teach" to everyone here the basic and implicit rules of a forum when everybody seems to be perfectly aware of them except you.

Take this topic for example... You seem to want everybody to acknowledge that there is room for other interpretations regarding Buff Buu. But the fact is that understanding is pretty much implied... People, because such things are obvious and are implied, just don't want to waste time saying "well, I acknowledge your right to have another opinion and certainly there aren't much facts regarding this and nor is my opinion fact but I disagree with your interpretation because....". Instead they just state they opinion, their take on the matter, their interpretation. The rest is implied.

People usually trust the other members to understand the implicit unwritten "rules" of a forum. Otherwise, every post in a forum would have to state something like what I said to avoid stepping in anyone's toes, which would be ridiculous.

[SuperForteX]

Kaioshin specifically mentions the absorption of South Kaioshin made Buu stronger? Do you have a specific panel/page number?

Yup.

---South Kaioshin-absorbed--- [#BO3#BOO#SKS]

Chapter: 507 (DBZ 313), P13.5
Context: as evil Boo reverts to his South Kaioshin form
Goku: “H-hey…Vegeta…His ki is increasing, ain’t it…!?”

Chapter: 508 (DBZ 314), P1.3
Context: evil Boo continues to revert to his South Kaioshin form
Goku: “…H-hey…He’s changed into an awfully bulky guy…”

Chapter: 508 (DBZ 314), P4.3-4
Kaioshin: “…First, two were killed…the North Kaioshin and the West Kaioshin….And then the South Kaioshin, the burliest and strongest one, was…somehow absorbed by Boo…..”
Elder Kaioshin: …And he become that huge Boo from before? “
Kaioshin: “…Yes……”

^
rereboy, where is Adamant implying that he's stating an opinion. He's basically saying in his post "absolutely South Kaioshin DID make Buu stronger, and here's the proof."

Then he goes on to list proof of something completely different, and assumes that his assumption will be accept as fact by the missinformed.

This is so different from what you and Cat are talking about. Can't you see that?