Does Frieza have to go through each of his transformations?

[TheHumblePoet]

As the tin says. Say Frieza meets an exceptionally powerful person, more powerful than his three lesser states, would he have to transform through each of his three states or can he go directly to his true form.

Also, can someone who is more powerful than his lesser states, but not his true form, kill Frieza while he is in a lesser form?

[Kaboom]

That's interesting... I tend to think of Freeza's transformation as like wearing multiple levels of some sort of inhibiting armor, all at once. Each time he transforms, he takes off a layer, and eventually he's free to cut loose. Whether he has to take them off one at a time or can remove them all at once... Hard to say. This is why I really, REALLY want some new guidebook to give us info on Freeza's race.

As for the second question, yes, definitely. Provided that the forms work to suppress his true power, then someone much stronger than whatever level he's currently kept down to could make short work of him. We've seen before, most notably with Vegeta and Kuririn, how one can be gravely injured if their own power is low enough.

[Nineteen]

While there's no hard evidence to say either way, I tend to believe so. Freeza is proud and boastful, but unlike the Saiyans, doesn't seem to particularly love combat, which is why he delegated that responsibility to his vastly weaker underlings. I think that if Freeza could go from his first to last form while skipping any of the intermediary steps, he'd have done so on Namek to save himself the hassle of fighting.

Here's a related idea I've had: say that Rou Kaioshin lost his marbles and brought out Freeza's full potential in his first form. Would that mean that Freeza's first form would have the strength of his maxed-out final form, or would he still have to transform to access it?

[Pantalones]

Since the 1st-3rd forms were transformations made to lower his power, I guess the old Kaioshin would probably want him to be in his fourth (original) form before doing his silly little make-you-absurdly-strong dance.

I guess if he did the silly dance when Freeza was in his first form, Freeza would either unwillingly be reverted all the way back to his fourth form in the process (...which would make it a whole lot easier to tell that something was actually happening, rather than just "oh, he's doing a silly dance, now he's finished... wait, how'd I get this strong!?") or he wouldn't have access to all of his newly-enhanced full power until he dropped the lower-power transformations and went back to his fourth form.

However it would work, I'm guessing he wouldn't need to go into that super-bulked-up "100%" form just to use his maximum power anymore, just like how Gohan didn't need to use Super Saiyan anymore (and in fact couldn't, because trying to go Super Saiyan after the power-up just pushed him into the "mystic"/"ultimate" power-up state instead.) He might even be stronger in his repressed forms than he was before getting the Kaioshin power-up (though it depends on exactly how they work--if the other forms work by lowering his max power by a certain percentage, he'd be stronger than before... but not if the weakest form always puts him down to 530,000 regardless of how strong his max is.)

[SuperForteX]

Freeza can go straight from his weakest form into his true form--this is my belief. I'll base this belief on the fact that he does so in DBZ: Hyper Dimension.

[Darkprince410]

Freeza can go straight from his weakest form into his true form--this is my belief. I'll base this belief on the fact that he does so in DBZ: Hyper Dimension.

That in itself doesn't necessarily mean anything though, otherwise we could say that Broli was capable of transforming into a Legendary Super Saiya-jin 3 form and that his initial Legendary Super Saiya-jin form was comparable to Ssj Gogeta's strength (given what we see in the PS2/PS3 games).

[SuperForteX]

Freeza can go straight from his weakest form into his true form--this is my belief. I'll base this belief on the fact that he does so in DBZ: Hyper Dimension.

That in itself doesn't necessarily mean anything though, otherwise we could say that Broli was capable of transforming into a Legendary Super Saiya-jin 3 form and that his initial Legendary Super Saiya-jin form was comparable to Ssj Gogeta's strength (given what we see in the PS2/PS3 games).

You say that like it would be some kind of fallacy. Look, I'm just giving you an example: It's an official work. If I was writing an encyclopedia entry for Broly I would list his LSSJ3 form in the entry, noting it appeared in such and such game.

It's still part of Dragon Ball's mythos.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

Freeza can go straight from his weakest form into his true form--this is my belief. I'll base this belief on the fact that he does so in DBZ: Hyper Dimension.

He transforms like that in Legends, too.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Freeza can go straight from his weakest form into his true form--this is my belief. I'll base this belief on the fact that he does so in DBZ: Hyper Dimension.

He transforms like that in Legends, too.

And Dragon Ball SD2, which may be viewed as slightly more official since its a manga rather than a game, but not for some people I suppose since it wasn't in the original. lol

[Chibi Mystic Gohan]

It's all "official," since they're all official products. But they're different continuities. What happens in a video game applies only to that game.

[SuperForteX]

Except that Akira Toriyama, nor anyone else from the Dragon Ball development camp has ever stepped forward and declare what is and isn't canon. In any case, we have Freeza transforming from his 1st form all the way to his final form in three video games so far. That's a pretty good indication, that in the expanded Dragon Ball universe of legally licensed official merchandise, he can do so. Becasue we see it happen : P

[Chibi Mystic Gohan]

That stuff only applies to those specific video games, though. None of that ever happened in the manga. What if I asked you something like, 'Who killed Cargot?' Freeza did it in the manga, but Dodoria was the killer in the anime. Is the answer "Freeza and Dodoria?" No, the answer is that Cargot had a different murderer in each continuity, and neither applies to the other.

[Fox666]

I suppose nothing stops Freeza from making all of his transformations at once...

[Darkprince410]

Except that Akira Toriyama, nor anyone else from the Dragon Ball development camp has ever stepped forward and declare what is and isn't canon. In any case, we have Freeza transforming from his 1st form all the way to his final form in three video games so far. That's a pretty good indication, that in the expanded Dragon Ball universe of legally licensed official merchandise, he can do so. Becasue we see it happen : P

Again, by that logic that means that Broli as a regular Legendary Super Saiya-jin is on par with Ssj Gogeta (DBZ Budokai 3/DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 3), Super Buu is able to instantly and willingly change into Chibi Buu (Dragon Ball GT Final Bout), Ssj2 Goku is strong enough to evenly fight Chibi Buu (DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi), Freeza in his final form is strong enough to prove a challenge for Ssj2 Vegeta (DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi), Cell and Bebi Vegeta in his Oozaru form hung out on Kaioushin's planet (DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 2), and so on. I mean, we saw them happen in the context of the games (they were the opening title scenes of the games, but they were still the games), so that means all those events are accurate.

Personally, outside of Dragonball Online (due to Toriyama's involvement), I wouldn't take any information seen in one of the Dragonball licensed games that can't be directly corroborated from the manga (or movies, depending on what's being shown) as being reliable. What the majority of the Dragonball related games are is simply non-canon.

Is it possible that Freeza might be able to bypass his in-between forms and jump right into his true form? Sure, but given that the only instances we see him with the ability to make that jump are in non-canon games that have other fallacies and inaccuracies about them, we have no concrete evidence to say for certain that he can.

[SylentEcho]

As for your first question, I can't really come up with a conclusive answer because nothing like that has been stated, but I'd like to think that he has to go through those other transformations to reach the final one.

It's like wearing layers of clothing. You have to take them all off to get n00d.

As for your second question, I'm very sure someone stronger than his lesser forms could take him out. If Goku (post healing tank) faced Little Freeza and didn't allow him to transform, he would have made quick work of him.

Think about it, if Freeza could access his whole power in just his initial form, he wouldn't need to transform in the first place.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

Ha. Another question came to mind: does anyone believe Freeza (Mecha excluded) has the ability to revert back to his previous forms if he wants? I sorta like the idea of this being possible. He did mention having trouble controlling his power when he first transformed, so that could be a reason why he would prefer to do such, but that could just be villain spouting.

[Jayy]

Ha. Another question came to mind: does anyone believe Freeza (Mecha excluded) has the ability to revert back to his previous forms if he wants? I sorta like the idea of this being possible. He did mention having trouble controlling his power when he first transformed, so that could be a reason why he would prefer to do such, but that could just be villain spouting.

I honestly think, he can never go back after becoming Mecha Freeza. Why? Basically because about 50% of his body are now built with components that are of completely different material of himself, what i think would happen if he wanted to suppress his energy he would be weak as hell ready to die and his components would go, but there's also the possibility that he can still suppress he's power, Not ruling that out.

But then again why would he suppress in Mecha Form? That's pretty much what kept him alive, if he had of reverted he would have been too weak to survive and he knew he was going to Earth, knew he was going to combat someone. His best chance is staying in FF.

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I honestly wouldn't like to think something like this can be achieved solely because it would look bad i mean 1stF to FF...really? What's achieved with going straight to it logically just looks stupid.

But I'm going to ignore all Video Game references and am going to use evidence from Dragonball. Basically if he can transform i can imagine it would never be direct. We'd just quickly see him warp though all of his stages quickly.

I don't think at First Form, Frieza had the potential to actually be unsuppressed directly to Final Form, which is why he had these layers. To do it a bit at a time..I mean look at hims go from 1 > 2 > 3. He didn't look to flash when transforming.

[SuperForteX]

That stuff only applies to those specific video games, though. None of that ever happened in the manga. What if I asked you something like, 'Who killed Cargot?' Freeza did it in the manga, but Dodoria was the killer in the anime. Is the answer "Freeza and Dodoria?" No, the answer is that Cargot had a different murderer in each continuity, and neither applies to the other.

This is one way of looking at it, yes..

[Chibi Mystic Gohan]

Are you agreeing or disagreeing with me?

[SuperForteX]

Are you agreeing or disagreeing with me?

I disagree, personally, but I'm not going to say it isn't your right to an opinion.