The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Photon Flash]

How about these:

Super Saiyan Goku (Frieza Saga) VS Super Saiyan Vegeta (Beginning of Android Saga)

Vegeta (Before battle with Recoome) VS Jeice

Goku (Beginning of DB) VS Mr. Satan (First Appearance)

Super Vegeta (Against 2nd Form Cell) VS Gohan (After training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber {Normal Form})

[dbgtFO]

How about these:

Super Saiyan Goku (Freeza Saga) VS Super Saiyan Vegeta (Beginning of Android Saga)

Vegeta wins without much trouble, since he should be a good deal stronger.

Vegeta (Before battle with Recoome) VS Jeice

Jheese wins, since he is about as strong as Recoom, who absolutely owned Vegeta.

Goku (Beginning of DB) VS Mr. Satan (First Appearance)

Funny, you should mention that, there's a debate about it over on Neoseeker as we speak(or type lol).

But back on topic, Goku wins. Mr. Satan has always appeared as a guy, who is only strong by Real World Standards. Of course he has Gag feats, but when it's serious business, Mr. Satan is just an ordinary earthling, who shouldn't be able to match Goku in his first appearance.

Super Vegeta (Against 2nd Form Cell) VS Gohan (After training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber {Normal Form})

This is an odd one. Vegeta shuold take this, if you ask me, since even if Saiyans in their normal form surpassed Piccolo by the Buu Arc, I don't think Piccolo ever came close to Super Vegeta's level of power.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Super Saiyan Goku (Freeza Saga) VS Super Saiyan Vegeta (Beginning of Android Saga)

After returning from Yardrat, SSj Goku was stronger than SSj Trunks, who was stronger than cyborg Freeza, who was stronger than SSj Goku (going by his belief that he could defeat Goku alone). So if, after three years of training, SSj Goku is much stronger than before, and Vegeta is marginally stronger than him (Piccolo said that Vegeta may be even stronger than Goku), then Vegeta should be able to spank Goku without much trouble.

Vegeta (Before battle with Recoome) VS Jeice

Kuririn said that Butta and Jheese had about the same amount of ki as Recoom, meaning that Jheese would trash Vegeta just as badly as Reacoom.

Goku (Beginning of DB) VS Mr. Satan (First Appearance)

Goku could tank a barrage of bullets to the head and survive with only mild temporary pain. Mr. Satan was shot with one bullet, fell down and had to be healed by Boo, after which he thanked Boo for saving his life. So Goku would effortlessly destroy Mr. Satan.

Super Vegeta (Against 2nd Form Cell) VS Gohan (After training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber {Normal Form})

No base Saiyan can ever compare to a Super Saiyan's power, apart from maybe young SSj Trunks. Super Vegeta would spank Gohan so hard his backside would look like a baboon's bloody ass afterwards.

[CatouttaHell]

Super Saiyan Goku (Freeza Saga) VS Super Saiyan Vegeta (Beginning of Android Saga)

Vegeta
~ SSjin - 610,000,000
~ Base - 12,200,000

Son Goku
~ SSjin - 150,000,000
~ Base - 3,000,000

Vegeta stomps horribly.

Vegeta (Before battle with Recoome) VS Jeice

Vegeta gets stomped at least as badly as he did by Recoome.

Goku (Beginning of DB) VS Mr. Satan (First Appearance)

Son Goku finger-flicks Mr. Satan. I'm a Initial Kid Goku > Spopovitch believer, so yeah.

Super Vegeta (Against 2nd Form Cell) VS Gohan (After training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber {Normal Form})

Vegeta
~ USSjin - 24,000,000,000
~ SSjin - 16,000,000,000
~ Base - 320,000,000

Son Gohan
~ SSjin - 190,000,000,000
~ Base - 3,800,000,000

I'm a Base Saiya-jins >>> Piccolo supporter but I think only Boo Arc Goku and Vegeta after his power-up surpassed USSjin Vegeta in their base forms since I use a 50x boost. Vegeta stomps in this one.

[Kirby456]

How about.

Pan GT Vs MSSJ Goku
Piccolo GT Vs Super Boo
King Kai Vs Appule
Mercenary Tao Vs Master Shen
Master Mutaito Vs King Piccolo Old

[dbgtFO]

Pan GT Vs MSSJ Goku

I honestly don't know, since I haven't seen that much of GT. But I've heard a couple of times that GT Pan is extremely strong, perhaps stronger than Trunks, who I definetly consider beyond FPSSJ Goku, so based on that Pan takes this. Maybe she'll put him in a chokehold like she did Dr. Gero(or was it Myu?).

Piccolo GT Vs Super Boo

There's no way Piccolo reached that level of power, even in GT. Majin Buu wins easily.

King Kai Vs Appule

For the rule of cool, the winner is Appule.
For a serious answer, Lord Kaio's Battle Power is 3500, while Appule's should be somewhere below 3000 based on his fight against the young Namekians, so Lord Kaio will emerge victorious.

Mercenary Tao Vs Master Shen

A mostly even battle would unfold, since I consider Tao Pai Pai to have a BP of 110(has yet to be confirmed) while Tsuru-sennin has a BP of 120. I'm pretty sure Tao knows how to fly, so in skill set they should be about the same. Since Tsuru-sennin is the older one, maybe he'll be the one who wins, considering he has a power advantage as well, I think it's not too far-fetched.

Master Mutaito Vs King Piccolo Old

King Piccolo wouldn't even have to go full power, less than ½ power is more than enough. We don't even have a proper placement for Mutaito's power either, all we know is, that his Battle Power is somewhere between 139 and 260.

[CatouttaHell]

Pan GT Vs MSSJ Goku

Son Pan absolutely ROFLSTOMPS here IMO. I have her stronger than Cell Games SSjin Goku since the End of Z.

Piccolo GT Vs Super Boo

Piccolo ROFLSTOMPS, I have him 50x stronger than Chou Gohan.

King Kai Vs Appule

Kaio-sama would rip him apart IMO. He's probably stronger and a much better fighter.

Mercenary Tao Vs Master Shen

Tsuru-sennin stomps his younger brother. I believe Tsuru-sennin >> Base Roshi >>> Tao Pai Pai.

Master Mutaito Vs King Piccolo Old

Well Anime Filler Mutaito would demolish him, but I doubt Canon Mutaito would be able to do anything.

[Godo]

Pan GT Vs MSSJ Goku

MSSJ Goku, of course. Pan didn't do anything that would make us believe that she was even near the MSSJ level.

Piccolo GT Vs Super Boo

Super Boo. Piccolo could in no way close the enormous gap that was between them in even 20 years.

[CatouttaHell]

1. SSjin Goku (Boo Arc) vs. FP Perfect Cell
2. SSjin Goku (End of Z) vs. Enraged SSjin 2 Kid Gohan
3. GT Base Gohan vs. SSjin Gotenks (Post)
4. Videl (Post-Training) vs. Bear Thief
5. Spopovich vs. Chibi Goku (Pilaf Arc)

Personally I believe:

1. Goku wins
2. Goku wins
3. Gohan wins
4. Bear Thief wins
5. Goku wins

[Kirby456]

1. SSjin Goku (Boo Arc) vs. FP Perfect Cell
2. SSjin Goku (End of Z) vs. Enraged SSjin 2 Kid Gohan
3. GT Base Gohan vs. SSjin Gotenks (Post)
4. Videl (Post-Training) vs. Bear Thief
5. Spopovich vs. Chibi Goku (Pilaf Arc)

Personally I believe:

1. Goku wins
2. Goku wins
3. Gohan wins
4. Bear Thief wins
5. Goku wins

Okay heres what i think.

1. Goku wins (trained hardcore in the other world if you by the anime like me)
2. Gohan wins in a close battle
3. Gohan
4. The Bear Thief cuts Videl in half
5. Goku wins but Spopvich will hang in there for a little

[Senzu_Bean]

I have not done something like this in a while. Let see, in my own opinion:

1. SSjin Goku (Boo Arc) vs. FP Perfect Cell
2. SSjin Goku (End of Z) vs. Enraged SSjin 2 Kid Gohan
3. GT Base Gohan vs. SSjin Gotenks (Post)
4. Videl (Post-Training) vs. Bear Thief
5. Spopovich vs. Chibi Goku (Pilaf Arc)

1. Goku probably wins;
2. Gohan easily wins;
3. It's GT but I don't see any reason why Gohan shouldn't win this;
4. Videl easily wins;
5. Spopovich easily wins.

[Nineteen]

1. SSjin Goku (Boo Arc) vs. FP Perfect Cell

I may be in the minority on this one, but I honestly believe that Cell wins. I think the fight is about as close as that which FPSSJ Goku gave 'regular' Perfect Cell during the Cell Games, but I just don't believe the standard Super Saiyan form is capable of producing the power necessary to kill someone like FP Perfect Cell.

2. SSjin Goku (End of Z) vs. Enraged SSjin 2 Kid Gohan

See above. I think the fight is somewhat closer than that between Perfect Cell and SSJ2 Kid Gohan, but Gohan still wins pretty handily.

3. GT Base Gohan vs. SSjin Gotenks (Post)

Gohan, almost assuredly.

4. Videl (Post-Training) vs. Bear Thief

Videl

5. Spopovich vs. Chibi Goku (Pilaf Arc)

Spopovich


Here's a couple fights I'd like to see:

1. Bojack vs. Dabra
2. Meta-Cooler vs. Android 18
3. Garlic Jr. (Dead Zone) vs. Raditz (immortality on or off, take your pick)
4. Super Android 13 vs. Semi-Perfect Cell
5. Dr. Wheelo's Bio-Warriors vs. the Saiyans from the filler episode "Pendulum Room Peril"

[dbgtFO]

Here's a couple fights I'd like to see:

1. Bojack vs. Dabra
2. Meta-Cooler vs. Android 18
3. Garlic Jr. (Dead Zone) vs. Raditz (immortality on or off, take your pick)
4. Super Android 13 vs. Semi-Perfect Cell
5. Dr. Wheelo vs. the Saiyans from the filler episode "Pendulum Room Peril"

1. Dabra wins easily, since as I stated earlier in this thread, his battle power equals Cell's. I consider Bojack to be about as strong Cell before his near death power up.
2. #18 is stronger, but Coola now has regenerative capabilities, so if she at first doesn't make a blast that fully engulfs him, Coola would probably come back stronger and take the win. Considering that #18 is portrayed as not being very bright(if you ask me), it's quite possible she won't figure out Coola being vastly improved before it's too late.
3. Immortality on: Raditz is a great deal stronger, but his opponent can't be killed, so he'll just be wearing himself down eventually making him so weak, that Garlic Junior is able to win.
4. IMO #13 is about as strong as #16, so Cell wins pretty easily.
5. Dr. Wheelo wins rather easily. Those filler Saiyans are probably Raditz level and nothing more.

[Nineteen]

5. Dr. Wheelo wins rather easily. Those filler Saiyans are probably Raditz level and nothing more.

I thought about it for a bit, and I decided to make their opponents the Bio-Warriors instead. For some reason I always thought that movie was set closer in relative terms to the early Saiyan saga and forgot completely about Kaio-Ken.

[Godo]

1. SSjin Goku (Boo Arc) vs. FP Perfect Cell

I'd say that this fight would either be a tie or in Perfect Cell's favor. This depends on Goku's growth between the arcs.
I think that there was a growth, but not huge.

2. SSjin Goku (End of Z) vs. Enraged SSjin 2 Kid Gohan

Gohan no doubt. Never in the series would a SSJ be able to come close to a SSJ2 IMO.

3. GT Base Gohan vs. SSjin Gotenks (Post)

Base? SSJ Gotenks, of course. Again, this depends on that I believe that no Base Saiya-jin ever comes close to a SSJ.

4. Videl (Post-Training) vs. Bear Thief

Goku in the beginning of Dragonball defeated Bear Thief with ease. Videl is a bit stronger than Mr. Satan, who defeated opponents stronger than that. So Videl definitely wins this one.

5. Spopovich vs. Chibi Goku (Pilaf Arc)

Spopovitch, hands down. His endurance and ki blasting abilities and flight would let him win.

1. Bojack vs. Dabra

Bojack couldn't defeat SSJ Gohan on his own. SSJ Gohan in his prime would defeat Dabra with ease. So it would be pretty much a tie here.

2. Meta-Cooler vs. Android 18

I would put Goku and Vegeta here as their Android arc counterparts, prior to the ROSAT.
Vegeta and Goku together had both trouble defeating Metal Cooler, but they succeeded. Vegeta couldn't hardly scratch 18, though. So 18 would win this one.

3. Garlic Jr. (Dead Zone) vs. Raditz (immortality on or off, take your pick)

Without immortality, Garlic Jr would be defeated with one flip of Raditz's pinkie. With immortality, Garlic Jr would be beaten for days until Radditz got tired and eventually easy to defeat.

4. Super Android 13 vs. Semi-Perfect Cell

I'd say Semi-Perfect Cell here, although I see Super Android 13 as a Semi-Perfect Cell clone.

[CatouttaHell]

1. Bojack vs. Dabra

Dabura absolutely rapes Bojack. I have Dabura strong enough to dominate Super Perfect Cell while Bojack is far from even SSjin 2 tier IMO.

2. Meta-Cooler vs. Android 18

Metal Coola kills #18 by glaring at her. I believe the Toei Haxes in Movie 5 and 6 so I have Metal Coola above Super Perfect Cell as well.

3. Garlic Jr. (Dead Zone) vs. Raditz (immortality on or off, take your pick)

Well if Garlic has immortality then he'll automatically defeat anybody IMO. It'll be like Videl vs. Spopovich where he's clearly weaker but just gets back up without a scratch from everything that's thrown at him until his opponent is too exhausted to keep attacking. Without immortality I think Raditz would win. He's at 1,500 while Garlic Jr should be far lower because Goku and Piccolo actually managed to hurt him.

4. Super Android 13 vs. Semi-Perfect Cell

Semi-Perfect Cell rapes IMO. #13 is on par with SSjin Goku and #14 and #15 are both a good chunk below Vegeta and Trunks, so them added to him won't even get him to #16 levels (I believe in a gargantuan gap between #16 and #17) let alone Semi-Perfect Cell levels.

5. Dr. Wheelo's Bio-Warriors vs. the Saiyans from the filler episode "Pendulum Room Peril"

Dr. Wheelo's warriors stomp. They beat the crap out of Kuririn who was at 1,770 and gave Goku, who is at 8,000, trouble until he used the Kaio-ken.

[Nineteen]

They beat the crap out of Kuririn who was at 1,770 and gave Goku, who is at 8,000, trouble until he used the Kaio-ken.

Wasn't Master Roshi able to fight fairly effectively against them, though? Granted he eventually lost, but he was fighting all three of them at once.

[CatouttaHell]

Wasn't Master Roshi able to fight fairly effectively against them, though? Granted he eventually lost, but he was fighting all three of them at once.

Yeah, he was Toei Haxed IMO. It's the only explanation for 139 Roshi doing better than 1,770 Kuririn.

Base? SSJ Gotenks, of course. Again, this depends on that I believe that no Base Saiya-jin ever comes close to a SSJ.

Not saying you're wrong, but I just feel like pointing out that when Mr. Boo took Mr. Satan and Pan away from the battlefield, Base Gohan was about to fire a Ki blast to blow him up until Bebi told him they were small fries and to not waste his time.

[Godo]

Not saying you're wrong, but I just feel like pointing out that when Mr. Boo took Mr. Satan and Pan away from the battlefield, Base Gohan was about to fire a Ki blast to blow him up until Bebi told him they were small fries and to not waste his time.

Put into thought Goku's accomplishments being untransformed compared to when he was transformed. I don't know how to explain them, but there seems to be some kind of unknown rule for the Saiya-jins and their forms in DBGT.
Sure, by your theory you are probably right, but I don't take those things into consideration, since my view is that the base powers didn't increase significantly since the Cell arc and onwards (hence the need to utilize the SSJ transformations to their fullest and finding new ones to be able to keep up with the enemies). But I know that there are many fans that don't share that view.
So all in all it's my biased view that causes this.

[Leviathus]

Normally I'm not into those vs thingies... but I'd really like to see what you guys do with these.

Apologies if some are already dicussed (too lazy to browse through the thread).

1. Bardock vs. Tullece (with or without shinseiju, your choice)
2. Mr. Satan vs. Freeza soldier A
3. Muten Roshi vs. Yajirobe
4. Son Gohan Saiya-jin arc vs. Son Goku Piccolo Daimao arc
5. Selypa vs. Zangya