The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Kirby456]

How about.

1. Tien Vs Krillin Android Saga
Id say Tien.
2. King Piccolo Old Vs Krillin 23rd Budokai
Id say Piccolo Old but Krillin will put up a fight.
3. Piccolo Post ROSAT Vs Ascended Vegeta Post ROSAT 1st time
Id say Piccolo.
4. Goten Vs Cell Junior
If say Goten
5. Piccolo Buu Saga Vs SSJ1 Gohan
Id say Piccolo. I believe SSJ2 Gohan/Dabura>>>>>>>>>>>>Piccolo>>>SSJ1 Trunks>=SSJ1 Gohan=SSJ1 Goten>>>>Supreme Kai>>>>Semi Perfect Cell.
6. Frieza healed not injured 100% Vs SSJ Goku on Namek
Not sure about this one
7. Frieza Final Form Vs King Cold
Id say Frieza.

[CatouttaHell]

1. Tenshinhan Vs Krillin Android Saga

Tenshinhan - 15,000,000

Kuririn - 9,000,000

Tenshinhan kicks his arse all over the place IMO.

2. King Piccolo Old Vs Krillin 23rd Budokai

Piccolo Daimao
~ Old, Initial - 92
~ Old, Powered Up - 130
~ Old, Theoretical FP - 155

Kuririn - 165

Kuririn would win after a long fight. I believe in huge gaps between the Piccolo Daimao Arc and the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai due to everybody learning how to control and sense Ki from Karin-sama. 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai Tenshinhan > FP Young Piccolo Daimao IMO.

3. Piccolo Post ROSAT Vs Ascended Vegeta Post ROSAT 1st time

Vegeta
~ USSjin - 650,000,000
~ SSjin - 500,000,000
~ Base - 10,000,000

Piccolo - 720,000,000

I have Piccolo on par with SSjin Vegeta and Trunks after their second RoSaT trip which is just a notch above what they were at below by my numbers (a 1.5x increase in terms of base and SSjin but due to them having USSjin before it's rather tiny.)

4. Goten Vs Cell Junior

Son Goten
~ SSjin - 900,000,000
~ Base - 18,000,000

Cell Juniors - 750,000,000

Son Goten wins after a long, hard fight by my numbers.

5. Piccolo Buu Saga Vs SSJ1 Gohan

Son Gohan
~ SSjin - 1,350,000,000
~ Base - 27,000,000

Piccolo - 1,600,000,000

I agree, Piccolo definitely takes this one.

6. Freeza healed not injured 100% Vs SSJ Goku on Namek

Goku wins. It would still be 150,000,000 against 120,000,000 IMO. And Freeza's power would still be steadily falling.

7. Freeza Final Form Vs King Cold
Id say Freeza.

Freeza
~ True Form - 3,750,000
~ 50% - 60,000,000
~ 100% - 120,000,000

King Cold
~ Suppressed - 60,000,000
~ Unseen Full Power - 134,500,000

King Cold wins after a long, hard battle I'd say.

[Kirby456]

I agree with Son Goten Vs Cell Junior. Goten is a fair amount stronger but the Cell Juniors are way way more ruthless and have a ton of power full attacks like Tri-Beam cannon,Special Beam Cannon etc, so they should give him trouble but i think Goten will win in the end in a fairly close fight. And i agree with Tienshinhan Vs Krillin. I have pretty much always believed Tien was a fair amount stronger then Krillin. Hey Catoutta Hell you still believe that Goten = Gohan like me right?.

[CatouttaHell]

How about:

Base Gotenks (Pre-RoSaT) vs. 100% Freeza
Base Gotenks (Post-RoSaT) vs. 100% Freeza

Personally I think he'd lose both, by my numbers he's fodder for even 50% Freeza.

Gotenks
~ SSjin (Post-RoSaT) - 2,200,000,000
~ Base (Post-RoSaT) - 44,000,000
~ SSjin - 1,900,000,000
~ Base - 38,000,000

Freeza
~ True Form - 3,750,000
~ 50% - 60,000,000
~ 100% - 120,000,000

[Kirby456]

Id say Frieza, i put Base Gotenks at 50-90Mil well i have Final Form Frieza at 120Mil. Gotenkes Super Saiyan 1 form never matched up anywere near his Super Saiyan 3 form in terms of accomplishments.

[CatouttaHell]

I totally agree. Gotenks is the most overrated character in the entire show IMO. His Base form surviving against Boo is a blatant gag scene that is meant to be disregarded. I don't see why so many people base his power on that. It'd be like putting Mr. Satan on par with Suppressed Perfect Cell or Chibi Boo because he survived a hit from them or putting General Blue near Arale (who in terms of feats > the whole DBZverse.)

[Kirby456]

I totally agree. Gotenks is the most overrated character in the entire show IMO. His Base form surviving against Boo is a blatant gag scene that is meant to be disregarded. I don't see why so many people base his power on that. It'd be like putting Mr. Satan on par with Suppressed Perfect Cell or Chibi Boo because he survived a hit from them or putting General Blue near Arale (who in terms of feats > the whole DBZverse.)

I agree but i think the most overrated character is Videl lol. Arale smashed the earth in half with a small punch shes in the millions at least. And Blue survived a hit from her, even though she was heavily holding back.

[CatouttaHell]

Yeah Videl and Mr. Satan are overrated to HELL. I saw some guy on Dragonball Z Forum arguing that Videl was near Base Goten and Trunks once. The majority of people's opinions regarding Videl's power make no sense at all to me.

[Kirby456]

Yeah Videl and Mr. Satan are overrated to HELL. I saw some guy on Dragonball Z Forum arguing that Videl was near Base Goten and Trunks once. The majority of people's opinions regarding Videl's power make no sense at all to me.

Once i saw some kid arguing Videl was at 6Mil and could take Zarbon,Raditz and 3rd Form Frieza on with ease i lold at how stupid that sounds. I just rewatched a few episodes and in one Videl kicked a regular human criminal in the face and he got up with minor damage just a small scratch. Plus it took it took Videl a ton of hits just to knock over a big gangster who Mr Satan was scared the hell out of, plus the gangster was holding his own and getting in a ton of hits he even got her in a headlock. And the gangster had no special skills he was just big.

[Kirby456]

How about

1. General Blue VS Android 8
Id say Blue i have him stronger then Krillin and he physic attacks. Plus even if 8 is stronger hes a terrible fighter and wont know what to do.
2. Tienshinhan End of King Kai training Vs Captain Ginyu
Id say Tienshinhan
3. SSJ4 Goku Vs SSJ Vegito
I say SSJ4 Goku. Due to the overpowering of GT characters.

[CatouttaHell]

How about

1. General Blue VS Android 8
Id say Blue i have him stronger then Krillin and he physic attacks. Plus even if 8 is stronger hes a terrible fighter and wont know what to do.
2. Tenshinhan End of King Kai training Vs Captain Ginyu
Id say Tenshinhan
3. SSJ4 Goku Vs SSJ Vegito
I say SSJ4 Goku

I'd say
1. #8 smacks General Blue into pieces. He was stated to be above Goku, who claimed Blue was nothing special. It's also unknown if his psychic attacks would work on a cyborg like #8, or if Blue is even strong enough to damage #8 if he does paralyse him.

2. Tenshinhan vapourises Ginyu with an uncharged Ki blast IMO.

3. Goku smacks Vegetto's head off. I have SSjin Goku 20x stronger than SSjin Vegetto personally, so SSjin 4 is just overkill.

[Rocketman]

3. SSJ4 Goku Vs SSJ Vegito
I say SSJ4 Goku

And you would be wrong. There is no possible way Goku could by himself overcome the massive powerup of fusing with Vegeta.

[CatouttaHell]

What about Super #13 vs.

1. #17
2. #16
3. Initial Semi-Perfect Cell
4. SSjin Vegeta (Post-RoSaT)
5. FP Semi-Perfect Cell
6. USSjin Vegeta

Personally I think he'd lose to #17 after a good fight due to being slower, and would get one-shotted by everybody else.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

Wins against #17, puts up a good fight against #16 (I think they're about equal), barely winning, and loses to the rest with ease.

[Nineteen]

1. #17

13 wins fairly easily.

2. #16

13 wins after a relatively lop-sided battle

3. Initial Semi-Perfect Cell

13 wins in a long, drawn out battle.

4. SSjin Vegeta (Post-RoSaT)

13 wins more easily than he did against initial Semi-Perfect Cell, since I have "base" SSJ Vegeta during that fight only about twice as strong as he was vs. Android 18 and weaker than Cell.

5. FP Semi-Perfect Cell

Cell wins fairly easily.

6. USSjin Vegeta

Vegeta rapes.

[Piccolo Daimao]

1. Tenshinhan Vs Krillin Android Saga

Due to still having a lead on Tenshinhan due to having had his latent power drawn out by the Great Elder, Kuririn wins.

2. King Piccolo Old Vs Krillin 23rd Budokai

Kuririn put up enough of a fight against Ma Junior for him to be impressed by his technique, speed and whatnot, as well as for him to say, whether humorous or not, that taking over the world wouldn't be so easy. So I think Kuririn, having somewhat superior strength and technique, would win.

[/quote]3. Piccolo Post ROSAT Vs Ascended Vegeta Post ROSAT 1st time[/quote]

Piccolo managed to hold his own against a Cell Junior. And, as I think the Cell Juniors were somewhat stronger than Super Vegeta post-RoSaT 1st time, I'd say that Piccolo would win.

4. Goten Vs Cell Junior

Goten isn't anywhere near Piccolo or the adult Saiyans' powers at the Cell Games, who fought the Cell Juniors on even ground. Goten would get trashed by a Cell Junior.

5. Piccolo Buu Saga Vs SSJ1 Gohan

This is no question for me. Piccolo isn't on the level of SSj Goku at the Cell Games, and therefore, isn't on the level of SSj Gohan. Nor do I see Piccolo being able to hold off Dabra.

6. Freeza healed not injured 100% Vs SSJ Goku on Namek

I don't understand what you mean. If you're talking about 100% Freeza on Namek, then Goku wins because of Freeza's exhausting ki. If you're talking about 100% Freeza after having been chopped in half and then having been donated energy by Goku, then Goku wins faster than Spider-Man getting laid (yes, intentional Family Guy reference). If you're talking aobut 100% Mecha Freeza, then Freeza wins marginally.

7. Freeza Final Form Vs King Cold.

Freeza wins. Because it's Freeza, the face of the empire, and nobody gives a crap about King Cold when Freeza's around.

Base Gotenks (Pre-RoSaT) vs. 100% Freeza
Base Gotenks (Post-RoSaT) vs. 100% Freeza

Gotenks wins both times. I'm not overrating him or anything, but seeing as I think both Super Saiyan kids are stronger than #18, who's stronger than 100% Freeza, and that fusion would generate a power stronger than either of the kids alone, even as Super Saiyan (judging by Piccolo's surprise at Gotenks' first appearance and power, when it wouldn't be that amazing if he was still weaker than one of the SSj kids alone), then Gotenks would win.

[dbgtFO]

6. Freeza healed not injured 100% Vs SSJ Goku on Namek

I don't understand what you mean. If you're talking about 100% Freeza on Namek, then Goku wins because of Freeza's exhausting ki. If you're talking about 100% Freeza after having been chopped in half and then having been donated energy by Goku, then Goku wins faster than Spider-Man getting laid (yes, intentional Family Guy reference). If you're talking aobut 100% Mecha Freeza, then Freeza wins marginally.

I think he's talking about a Freeza who hasn't been damaged prior to going 100% like he was on Namek.

Base Gotenks (Pre-RoSaT) vs. 100% Freeza
Base Gotenks (Post-RoSaT) vs. 100% Freeza

In both battles, Gotenks completely destroys Freeza with his pinky.

[Piccolo Daimao]

I think he's talking about a Freeza who hasn't been damaged prior to going 100% like he was on Namek.

Well, I think Freeza was at full power (i.e. not at any level below what he'd normally be at 100%) when he went 100% anyway. Either way, SSj Goku's stronger, so he still wins.

[Kirby456]

Well for number 5 i see Piccolo as being nothing compared to Dabura and that Dabura will destroy him with ease as i believe Gohan was a Super Saiyan 2 against Dabura. And for Frieza non injured 100% i mean Frieza not being injured before going 100%.

How about.

1. SSJ1 Gotenks Pre Rosat Vs Dabura
2. Spike the Devilman 22nd Budokai Vs Krillin
Id say Devilman.
3. Bido (Bojack Unbound) Vs Piccolo
Id say Piccolo.
4. King Cold Vs Android 20 (no energy)
Id say King Cold.

[In Brightest Day]

Vegeta (Buu arc) vs. Roshi (22nd Budokai) at equal power levels.