Most overrated characters in terms of power?

CatouttaHell · Post by **CatouttaHell** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:29 am

Which Dragon Ball characters do you feel are the most overrated by fans in terms of their power? Personally I'd say Broly, Videl, Mr. Satan, Gotenks, Vegetto, and Super Perfect Cell are by far the worst.

Kirby456 · Post by **Kirby456** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:31 am

Id say Videl,Mr Satan,Android 18,Gotenks,Broly,Cooler,Pui Pui,Yakon. I dont think Vegettos overrated in Z though thats just my opinion. But i agree with you man.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:32 am

Broly, Pure Boo, Broly, Gotenks, Pure Boo, Broly, Gotenks, Gotenks, Pure Boo, Gotenks, Broly, and last but not least, Broly.

Also Nappa.

CatouttaHell · Post by **CatouttaHell** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:35 am

Kirby456 wrote:Id say Videl,Mr Satan,Android 18,Gotenks,Broly,Cooler,Pui Pui,Yakon. I dont think Vegettos overrated in Z though thats just my opinion. But i agree with you man.

Oh yeah, I totally forgot about Pui-Pui and Yakon. Some people think they're both above Piccolo (I used to think that as well

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I think Vegetto is overrated as hell in regards to GT. It's just my opinion but I think even Goku would stomp him into the ground. There's just too many gigantic gaps suggested for him to be a top tier person in GT. Some people think that Base Vegetto would solo all or most of GT, which I don't understand in the least.

Michsi · Post by **Michsi** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:14 am

CatouttaHell wrote:
Kirby456 wrote:Id say Videl,Mr Satan,Android 18,Gotenks,Broly,Cooler,Pui Pui,Yakon. I dont think Vegettos overrated in Z though thats just my opinion. But i agree with you man.
Oh yeah, I totally forgot about Pui-Pui and Yakon. Some people think they're both above Piccolo (I used to think that as well )

I think Vegetto is overrated as hell in regards to GT. It's just my opinion but I think even Goku would stomp him into the ground. There's just too many gigantic gaps suggested for him to be a top tier person in GT. Some people think that Base Vegetto would solo all or most of GT, which I don't understand in the least.

While I haven't seen GT, it's hard for me to believe that Goku is stronger than Vegetto since the whole point of the fusion technique and Vegetto is to be stronger than the original unfused characters. Unless you mean base Vegetto and SSJ3 Goku or something like that, then I have no idea since I'm not good with power level discussion and GT.

Let's see, overrated characters....I haven's seen many

Uub comes to mind, but I don't really know where the fandome usually places him. I know it was hinted at the end of the story that he'd become the next Goku or something and he was crazy strong because he has Buu's reincarntion but Buu, while amazingly strong, yes, was mostly such a great threat because of his magic powers and his immortality/his unstoppable regeneration. He got blown to bits quite a few times iirc, but came back because he was a creature of magic. Uub only has his strength (and maybe not even all of it) but he is human and mortal.

CatouttaHell · Post by **CatouttaHell** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:22 am

Michsi wrote:While I haven't seen GT, it's hard for me to believe that Goku is stronger than Vegetto since the whole point of the fusion technique and Vegetto is to be stronger than the original unfused characters. Unless you mean base Vegetto and SSJ3 Goku or something like that, then I have no idea since I'm not good with power level discussion and GT.

Yeah if Toriyama world something like Goku >>> Vegetto wouldn't happen in a thousand years but I don't see how Vegetto is relevant at all in GT, which is in Toei World. Base Gohan is implied to be >>> Mr. Boo in GT and Base Goku is a good deal stronger than his SSjin form (which should be 50x a power that is already at least mid-tier in the Boo Arc.) Then again I have all of the Boo Arc powers rather close together so I suppose for most people it's still possible to have Vegetto be relevant even with those implied gaps.

goldsaint13 · Post by **goldsaint13** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:26 am

Vegetto is UNDERrated, not overrated...

Don't forget he is Goku X Vegeta, that is something uncalculable...

If I have to consider movies, absolutely Broly... He is said by many people to be something like SSJ3 Goku or even fusions while he is not much more different from Cell or those SSJ2-like levels or so, at best...

Considering the manga, the most overated is SSJ3 Goku... Some thinks he is one of the strongest while he is the second weakest among the best forms of the Saiyans of the Buu's saga... He is stronger only than SSJ2 Vegeta but he is weaker than Gotenks, Gohan and infinitely weaker than even base Vegetto...

Michsi · Post by **Michsi** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:32 am

goldsaint13 wrote: weaker than Gotenks...

I'm not so sure about that. But then again he couldn't keep the SSJ3 form long enough while in a living body while Gotenks could...

CatouttaHell · Post by **CatouttaHell** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:39 am

Gotenks > Goku isn't set in stone at all. The Daizenshuu said Gotenks leveled up so much in the RoSaT that he surpassed Vegeta and co. This outright establishes that SSjin Gotenks (Pre) is < SSjin 2 Demon Prince Vegeta and possibly even Enraged SSjin 2 Gohan. Depending on how you interpret "leveled up" it's possible he only surpassed Vegeta by achieving SSjin 2 and 3. Also it saying "Vegeta and co" is interesting, since Goku is way stronger than Vegeta. If Gotenks surpassed Goku as well wouldn't it make the most sense to say "Goku and co?"

Don't get me wrong, I think SSjin 3 Gotenks is very slightly stronger than Goku, I'm just saying it's totally debatable.

DragonBoxZTheMovies · Post by **DragonBoxZTheMovies** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:42 am

Probably Bojack. I always hated that guy.

goldsaint13 · Post by **goldsaint13** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:50 am

Michsi wrote: I'm not so sure about that. But then again he couldn't keep the SSJ3 form long enough while in a living body while Gotenks could...

Goku said to not having any chance against Super Buu without fusing with Vegeta, the same Super Buu that Gotenks was about to defeat if not for the time limit...

But there is even a bigger proof I'll list in the next quote...

CatouttaHell wrote:Gotenks > Goku isn't set in stone at all. The Daizenshuu said Gotenks leveled up so much in the RoSaT that he surpassed Vegeta and co. This outright establishes that SSjin Gotenks (Pre) is < SSjin 2 Demon Prince Vegeta and possibly even Enraged SSjin 2 Gohan. Depending on how you interpret "leveled up" it's possible he only surpassed Vegeta by achieving SSjin 2 and 3. Also it saying "Vegeta and co" is interesting, since Goku is way stronger than Vegeta. If Gotenks surpassed Goku as well wouldn't it make the most sense to say "Goku and co?"

Don't get me wrong, I think SSjin 3 Gotenks is very slightly stronger than Goku, I'm just saying it's totally debatable.

Yes, I remember that...

Of course Gotenks hardly surpassed even Vegeta before the RoSaT... Don't forget he was limited to SSJ1 form...
I'm not saying that base Gotenks is stronger than SSJ2 Vegeta or so, I only say that confronting him and Goku or Vegeta with the same transformation, Gotenks is stronger...

Before the RoSaT it's probably that SSJ1 Gotenks </= SSJ2 Vegeta/Goku, but also that SSJ1 Gotenks > SSJ1 Vegeta/Goku...

Don't forget a thing...

Goku didn't expect Gotenks to get SSJ3 but he said he had chances to defeat Fat Buu anyway... Don't forget also that Fat Buu is unbeatble by SSJ2 Goku, there's just no chance, at the point that Goku must fight seriously even with SSJ3 to beat just Fat Buu... That means that Gotenks is above Goku... May it by slightly, but surely...

ending sun · Post by **ending sun** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:21 am

Videl I can kinda see, but how is Mr. Satan's power overrated? As far I know, he's not seen as anywhere near the level of the Z warriors, but probably an above average fighter as normal humans go.

Anyway, I'd probably say Bardock. And Broly, definitely Broly.

Nazi Cola · Post by **Nazi Cola** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 4:18 am

SSj3 Goku. I don't understand how he can be the second or third strongest guy on some people's lists when he's child's play by the time Fusion is introduced, and only becomes relevant again when everybody else leagues stronger than him FUBAR'd and he had to deal with a villain that was actually on his level. Anime-wise, sure, go for it, but manga-wise...don't subject me to that.

inb4 boo/gotenks debate

Rostir · Post by **Rostir** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 4:31 am

Broly

Savage68 · Post by **Savage68** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:58 am

All of them and none of them, probably. In fact, maybe we shouldn't care about their powers at all.

Shoryuken · Post by **Shoryuken** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:01 am

Rostir wrote:Broly

This. Brolly's hulkomatic powers make him one of the broken characters in DBZ.

In Brightest Day · Post by **In Brightest Day** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:52 am

First person to post any of main human fighters gets shot.

goldsaint13 · Post by **goldsaint13** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:09 am

Nazi Cola wrote:SSj3 Goku. I don't understand how he can be the second or third strongest guy on some people's lists when he's child's play by the time Fusion is introduced, and only becomes relevant again when everybody else leagues stronger than him FUBAR'd and he had to deal with a villain that was actually on his level. Anime-wise, sure, go for it, but manga-wise...don't subject me to that.

Anime-wise too...

Totally agree... Kid Buu is there just to give Goku something he can deal with and not being able to win easily (Fat Buu) or being heavily ass-kicked (Super Buu)...

SSJ3 Goku is the second most overated character after Broly...
Broly is really unrivaled on the overating side...

dbgtFO · Post by **dbgtFO** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:22 am

In Brightest Day wrote:First person to post any of main human fighters gets shot.

Well technically people already did lol.
But nitpicking aside...

Out of the Earthling Fighters, Tenshinhan is probably the most overrated. Krillin is the strongest Earthling, stated. This claim is never retracted or contradicted, so it doesn't matter how hard Tenshinhan trained, while Krillin sat on his ass, he still doesn't prove himself stronger in the Buu Arc.
(Puts on Bulletproof vest)

I personally don't think Gotenks is overrated, only his normal power is, especially pre RoSaT.

The movie characters tend to be overrated, Cooler and Broli in particular. But I guess just going by what's stated in the movies could possibly give one the idea that they are stupidly powerful.

I'm surprised noone has mentioned normal Saiyans in the Buu arc yet. I started out thinking they were overrated, but I've recently changed my mind concerning the whole issue.

Fox666 · Post by **Fox666** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:13 am

Saiyans in their base form at the Boo arc. Including Gotenks and Vegetto.

Kanzenshuu

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