Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" Dub Turns 16; Still Unreleased

Discussion specifically regarding the "refreshed" TV version of DBZ created in Japan for its 20th anniversary, including individual threads for each episode.
User avatar
dagame10k
Not-So-Newbie
Posts: 70
Joined: Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:35 pm
Location: Canada

Re: Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" dub seems to be coming.

Post by dagame10k » Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:24 pm

RazorX wrote:For some reason you seem particularly keen to overcriticise the Ocean Westwood dub. The Buu saga was certainly not "robotic" and overall was their best work.
The Westwood Dragon ball Z dub was the last Dragon Ball production the company worked on as a whole in Vancouver, given it's flaws, why wouldn't I use it as an example as to how I think Ocean will improve upon with Kai's production?

Yes the late Buu saga episodes were the project's best work, but even with the little boost in production, it only ever archived decent results. The Word Fit flaws still stand out, voice direction, doing multiple takes to get natural line delivery, in the company's good, and great productions, Word Fit and line delivery is smooth.

With Ocean's dub of Kai, all I am hoping for is a good quality Dragon Ball dub that matches the quality of it's earlier Dragon ball productions(before Westwood), and every other quality dub the company produced over the years, I just don't want it following in the Westwood dubs messy foot steps.
RazorX wrote:It doesn't make much sense for Sean to talk about certain specifics of the dub if he hadn't seen it. Perhaps he was somehow allowed to see a work in progress/beta version of episode 1..
I don't see why Sean would beable to see anything out of another production he has no involement, I'm not even sure the Ocean cast would even be given the oppertunity to see clips the project they themselves worked on.
RazorX wrote:Ocean are too professional and organised to screw a voice actress like that. What Funimation did with Linda Young and Travis Willingham highlights incompetence, disorganisation and disregard.
I don't know why your putting Ocean on a pedestal, did you forget Ocean screwed the Vancouver cast, and shipped Dragon Ball GT to Blue Water? Now I'm not saying they did in fact think about doing so, but knowing how that company is, it's possible they thought about it.
RazorX wrote:I'd say Ocean probably left Freeza's laugh undubbed in episode 1 since they didn't need to release the episodes quickly and found themselves a voice actor for Freeza in the Namek saga & had him start by dubbing the laugh in episode 1.
Nobody really knows the company's plans, we don't have an episode production history, we don't know when they completed their first episode, if they even tried getting it on TV already, or if they are even intentionally taking their time, and producing this at proper pace.
"Nobody's Real............"

GS7X7
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1109
Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:03 pm

Re: Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" dub seems to be coming.

Post by GS7X7 » Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:17 pm

(Crosses fingers)

Let's hope Ocean takes the time to try and do as great a job as possible since Funimation already won the race to be first. (I heard they used to always rush to try and be ahead of Funi for DBZ on tv)
Sean Schemmel is THE MAN! :)

Me- "Also, before anyone mentions it, Schemmel's interview was from nearly 15 years ago. He paid a brief visit to Kanzenshuu's forums a few years back and earned legendary respect that cancels out anything he said from that long ago. :D"

User avatar
linkdude20002001
I Live Here
Posts: 2613
Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:22 pm
Location: Marysville, Washington

Re: Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" dub seems to be coming.

Post by linkdude20002001 » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:09 pm

That's hard to do when you're BASING your dub off FUNi's. They were probably just trying to keep up with FUNi, not get ahead.
The Many English Dubs of DB, DBZ, and DBGT
Viz Release Censorship Guide

Scsigs: "Y'know, it actually makes sense that they waited till today to announce [the 30th Anniversary] set. It's Akira Toriyama's birthday."
Shaddy: "I too want my legacy destroyed as a birthday gift."

GS7X7
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1109
Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:03 pm

Re: Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" dub seems to be coming.

Post by GS7X7 » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:47 pm

I remember that they did have Funimation "import" scripts to them, which was kind of a shame.

Slow and steady is better than fast and reckless.
Sean Schemmel is THE MAN! :)

Me- "Also, before anyone mentions it, Schemmel's interview was from nearly 15 years ago. He paid a brief visit to Kanzenshuu's forums a few years back and earned legendary respect that cancels out anything he said from that long ago. :D"

dbzforeverUK
Not-So-Newbie
Posts: 62
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:16 am
Location: Derbyshire.
Contact:

Re: Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" dub seems to be coming.

Post by dbzforeverUK » Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:50 pm

linkdude20002001 wrote:That's hard to do when you're BASING your dub off FUNi's. They were probably just trying to keep up with FUNi, not get ahead.

So your saying that Sean does'nt sound anything like Ian Corlett and that Sabat does'nt sound anything like drummond?
I'm sorry but wasnt it Funimation who used Ocean's dub as a template for there own.Sabats early Vegeta is by far the best Drummond impersination i have ever heard,Yes its true Funimation wrote the scripts but Ocean would edited it once they got them,ironicly Funimation then used the edited Ocean script for there "Uncut" boxsets.Ocean's script included words such as "heinous" "dispensiable" words that a 12 year old would'nt understand.

This time round Ocean has done all the Adr production for Funimation's Kai tv dub meaning they would have most proberbly have wrote the scripts for Funimation, meaning that yet again Ocean and Funimation will have simillar scripts for Dragonball Kai.
Ocean can't base there dub off Funimation because its vice-versa.

Dark Vegeta-Sama
Beyond-the-Beyond Newbie
Posts: 315
Joined: Mon Feb 09, 2004 8:23 pm
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Re: Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" dub seems to be coming.

Post by Dark Vegeta-Sama » Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:20 pm

dbzforeverUK wrote:Sabats early Vegeta is by far the best Drummond impersination i have ever heard
Then you obviously haven't heard very many Drummond impersonations.
dbzforeverUK wrote:This time round Ocean has done all the Adr production for Funimation's Kai tv dub meaning they would have most proberbly have wrote the scripts for Funimation, meaning that yet again Ocean and Funimation will have simillar scripts for Dragonball Kai.
Assuming that Ocean's Dragonball Kai is an accurate dub (and based on Kirby Morrow possibly losing the role of Goku because of his voice not fitting the character, an accurate dub is likely), they would have similar scripts to FUNimation's Kai anyway because FUNi's dub is highly accurate this time. There are only so many ways you can translate a sentence if you're keeping to it accurately.

User avatar
Tanooki Kuribo
I Live Here
Posts: 4563
Joined: Wed Sep 08, 2004 12:23 am
Location: Manhattan, New York
Contact:

Re: Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" dub seems to be coming.

Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:17 pm

Ya know, every time I see this topic has a new post I always click it hoping there's a clip or some official news or... something. But, there never is. :(

GS7X7
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1109
Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:03 pm

Re: Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" dub seems to be coming.

Post by GS7X7 » Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:54 pm

Just to be fair to Sabat....

http://www.animecauldron.com/dbzuncenso ... unaga.html

A lot of hardcore fans were initially very anti-Drummond. When Ed Gorgen interviewed Fukunaga he considered this to be such a big deal that he asked him personally about this. Overtime though, people grew to really like Drummond then there was a backlash, "hey why can't Sabat sound like this guy we used to hate so much?" when Funimation got rid of the voice style that they'd gotten so many complaints about.
Sean Schemmel is THE MAN! :)

Me- "Also, before anyone mentions it, Schemmel's interview was from nearly 15 years ago. He paid a brief visit to Kanzenshuu's forums a few years back and earned legendary respect that cancels out anything he said from that long ago. :D"

User avatar
Attitudefan
I Live Here
Posts: 2963
Joined: Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:51 pm
Location: Canada

Re: Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" dub seems to be coming.

Post by Attitudefan » Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:32 am

GS7X7 wrote:Just to be fair to Sabat....

http://www.animecauldron.com/dbzuncenso ... unaga.html

A lot of hardcore fans were initially very anti-Drummond. When Ed Gorgen interviewed Fukunaga he considered this to be such a big deal that he asked him personally about this. Overtime though, people grew to really like Drummond then there was a backlash, "hey why can't Sabat sound like this guy we used to hate so much?" when Funimation got rid of the voice style that they'd gotten so many complaints about.
Wow, a very good read, and, a lot of this stuff did happen... ten years after the fact! :lol: :lol:

I am a Drummond supporter, and it is very disappointing that the hardcore's hated the voice so much, and now you have, again, haters but from a different variety; the hardcore FUNi dub fans. Sabat, to me, will never be the best Vegeta nor the best adaption to the voice. I listen to the voices during their first airing, the Canadian cast, and the voices are a better adaption than the ones we get today. I guess that's why they did not like McNiel, he didn't sound like his Japanese counterpart.

Funny how in the old interview the voices that are most loved and missed were hated back in '96 before CN! That's insane! :shock:

Anyways,
Tanooki Kuribo wrote:Ya know, every time I see this topic has a new post I always click it hoping there's a clip or some official news or... something. But, there never is.
I agree, I keep coming here for the special news and it's just debating and arguing. I want it here already :(
My favourite art style (and animation) outside Toriyama who worked on Dragon Ball: Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru, Masaki Satō, Minoru Maeda, Takeo Ide, Hisashi Eguchi, Katsumi Aoshima, Tomekichi Takeuchi, Masahiro Shimanuki, Kazuya Hisada

dbzforeverUK
Not-So-Newbie
Posts: 62
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:16 am
Location: Derbyshire.
Contact:

Re: Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" dub seems to be coming.

Post by dbzforeverUK » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:28 am

Attitudefan wrote:
GS7X7 wrote:Just to be fair to Sabat....

http://www.animecauldron.com/dbzuncenso ... unaga.html

A lot of hardcore fans were initially very anti-Drummond. When Ed Gorgen interviewed Fukunaga he considered this to be such a big deal that he asked him personally about this. Overtime though, people grew to really like Drummond then there was a backlash, "hey why can't Sabat sound like this guy we used to hate so much?" when Funimation got rid of the voice style that they'd gotten so many complaints about.
Wow, a very good read, and, a lot of this stuff did happen... ten years after the fact! :lol: :lol:

I am a Drummond supporter, and it is very disappointing that the hardcore's hated the voice so much, and now you have, again, haters but from a different variety; the hardcore FUNi dub fans. Sabat, to me, will never be the best Vegeta nor the best adaption to the voice. I listen to the voices during their first airing, the Canadian cast, and the voices are a better adaption than the ones we get today. I guess that's why they did not like McNiel, he didn't sound like his Japanese counterpart.

Funny how in the old interview the voices that are most loved and missed were hated back in '96 before CN! That's insane! :shock:

Anyways,
Tanooki Kuribo wrote:Ya know, every time I see this topic has a new post I always click it hoping there's a clip or some official news or... something. But, there never is.
I agree, I keep coming here for the special news and it's just debating and arguing. I want it here already :(

Could'nt agree with you anymore,Ocean is being very quite about the matter to quite if you ask me.

dbzforeverUK
Not-So-Newbie
Posts: 62
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:16 am
Location: Derbyshire.
Contact:

Re: Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" dub seems to be coming.

Post by dbzforeverUK » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:28 am

Attitudefan wrote:Anyways,
Tanooki Kuribo wrote:Ya know, every time I see this topic has a new post I always click it hoping there's a clip or some official news or... something. But, there never is.
I agree, I keep coming here for the special news and it's just debating and arguing. I want it here already :(

Couldn't agree with you any more, Ocean is being very quiet about the matter. Too quiet, if you ask me.

User avatar
Rory
I Live Here
Posts: 2777
Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:15 pm
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" dub seems to be coming.

Post by Rory » Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:39 pm

Tanooki Kuribo wrote:Ya know, every time I see this topic has a new post I always click it hoping there's a clip or some official news or... something. But, there never is. :(
Is it actually happening?
I know Morrow said that it is and we've had bits of news here and there, but I've not heard anything official yet....

User avatar
JulieYBM
Patreon Supporter
Posts: 18590
Joined: Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:25 pm
Location: 🏳️‍⚧️🍉

Re: Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" dub seems to be coming.

Post by JulieYBM » Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:42 pm

Rory wrote:
Tanooki Kuribo wrote:Ya know, every time I see this topic has a new post I always click it hoping there's a clip or some official news or... something. But, there never is. :(
Is it actually happening?
I know Morrow said that it is and we've had bits of news here and there, but I've not heard anything official yet....
Well, we know Lee Tockar is voicing Freeza, so they appear to already be in the Namek arc.
💙💜💖 She/Her 💙💜💖

SSJSteve
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1029
Joined: Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:30 pm

Re: Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" dub seems to be coming.

Post by SSJSteve » Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:31 pm

Still no official announcement.

I wonder if Ocean will just do a straight to DVD release.

User avatar
batistabus
Patreon Supporter
Posts: 2108
Joined: Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:55 pm
Location: DBS:SH

Re: Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" dub seems to be coming.

Post by batistabus » Sat Jul 30, 2011 2:35 pm

I'm really hoping this ends up terrible...so I dont have to buy it. :cry:

User avatar
Rory
I Live Here
Posts: 2777
Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:15 pm
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" dub seems to be coming.

Post by Rory » Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:36 pm

batistabus wrote:I'm really hoping this ends up terrible...so I dont have to buy it. :cry:
As if it'd ever come out on DVD/Blu Ray.

User avatar
batistabus
Patreon Supporter
Posts: 2108
Joined: Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:55 pm
Location: DBS:SH

Re: Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" dub seems to be coming.

Post by batistabus » Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:38 pm

Rory wrote:
batistabus wrote:I'm really hoping this ends up terrible...so I dont have to buy it. :cry:
As if it'd ever come out on DVD/Blu Ray.
Why wouldn't it?

User avatar
Rory
I Live Here
Posts: 2777
Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:15 pm
Location: United Kingdom

Re: Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" dub seems to be coming.

Post by Rory » Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:54 pm

batistabus wrote:Why wouldn't it?
No Ocean dub episodes (post season 2) ever got released on VHS or DVD. Ever. It aired in quite a few countries and none of them saw any kind of home release.

User avatar
batistabus
Patreon Supporter
Posts: 2108
Joined: Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:55 pm
Location: DBS:SH

Re: Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" dub seems to be coming.

Post by batistabus » Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:23 pm

Rory wrote:
batistabus wrote:Why wouldn't it?
No Ocean dub episodes (post season 2) ever got released on VHS or DVD. Ever. It aired in quite a few countries and none of them saw any kind of home release.
So? That was a different time. It could easily happen now. And you forgot a couple of the movies.

User avatar
Attitudefan
I Live Here
Posts: 2963
Joined: Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:51 pm
Location: Canada

Re: Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" dub seems to be coming.

Post by Attitudefan » Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:58 pm

Definitely possible as the UK got no TV or DVD release of Kai and Canada just got the DVD's, it was never aired here.
My favourite art style (and animation) outside Toriyama who worked on Dragon Ball: Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru, Masaki Satō, Minoru Maeda, Takeo Ide, Hisashi Eguchi, Katsumi Aoshima, Tomekichi Takeuchi, Masahiro Shimanuki, Kazuya Hisada

Post Reply