DBZ: Ultimate Blast/Tenkaichi (Pre-Release Discussion)

[mysticboy]

I'm worried though, the video made it seem like there was a lot of rock paper scissors action going on and that seems like that could get old fast.

I see it as a way to reduce spam and to allow more strategies. But, I do hope there is an option to turn that crap off.

[Shin_Chou_Senshi]

Who says the button prompts are easy considering that they're simply on the screen ? The same method of timing apply like in the others. I do believe because this is a DEMO that it's in a " chaperone " mode. And it's moreso the people playing suck. Let a pro get on this.

I didn't mean to convey that they look easy. I do, however, agree with you on the fact that all the footage we've been getting are from people who don't even know how to play, yet people here are mad about how the gameplay looks terrible!

All I can say, we'll just have to wait until we get high level gameplay.

Isn't that funny ?! Sucky gameplay game truly make a good game look bad. That's a fact. " Hate the player not the game ". People at expos are going to only want to do some of the cool moves availible, and not invest in bringing out the beast in the game. They don't really have the time to. I mean, Raging Blast 2 (which I haven't purchased cause I was expecting DBZUT) has some sick combo videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4IDm1bDZ7Y
And they better keep Shunsuke Kikuchi's score like they do in the japenese version or I'm importing !

I Guarantee you that IF someone would just put real time destruction ala Battlefield Bad Company 2 but obviously more explosive since this is DBZ, i know if it had that...it would be the best DBZ game EVER! that is what is really missing here, not costumes nor a few forgotten characters.

As Shin Chou already said, these games are literally almost perfect, but you guys dont see it, you are in a lot of ways spoiled, not everything you want can be in the game ,my only wish is real destruction just like it really is in the series.

Spoiled ! That's it ! Why didn't I think of that word. It's always the simple words that tend to slip my mind. And here I am ruffling feathers using the word " elitist ".

I think they've done good on the destruction tip. I always thought the blast shot on the ground should ravage the ground as it travels. I love that the idle auras finally have that big candle flame look and not that misty look commonly seen in Yu Yu Hakusho, Bleach or somthing.

[batistabus]

these games are literally almost perfect, but you guys dont see it, you are in a lot of ways spoiled, not everything you want can be in the game

Almost perfect? Are we even playing the same game? This series leaves a LOT to be desired in EVERY SINGLE CATEGORY.

As consumers, there is no such thing as being spoiled because we have every right to demand everything we could possibly want. The developers aren't entitled to our money; if we're going to shell out $60, it better damn well be on something we're happy with. I refuse to settle for purchasing a product I'm not happy with, simply because it's the newest Dragon Ball game. You shouldn't either.

If we all just pretended the game was as good as it's going to get, that's all we're going to get.

[Rostir]

As Shin Chou already said, these games are literally almost perfect, but you guys dont see it, you are in a lot of ways spoiled, not everything you want can be in the game ,my only wish is real destruction just like it really is in the series.

No Dragon Ball Z ever has captured the 100% essence of Dragon Ball Z. All of the games have limits, when it comes to the combat, health, strategy, stage size, stage variety, character depth, variety, and features. If these games are "near perfect", then there would be no reason for them to keep releasing new games every year with the same headlines, "brand new gameplay features", "XX amount, of new characters never before seen".

They wouldn't take out things and add things, it's like every single new game is a brand new game that blatantly ignores its predecessor's existence. I really can't agree with these games being literally almost perfect.

[Shin_Chou_Senshi]

these games are literally almost perfect, but you guys dont see it, you are in a lot of ways spoiled, not everything you want can be in the game

Almost perfect? Are we even playing the same game? This series leaves a LOT to be desired in EVERY SINGLE CATEGORY.

As consumers, there is no such thing as being spoiled because we have every right to demand everything we could possibly want. The developers aren't entitled to our money; if we're going to shell out $60, it better damn well be on something we're happy with. I refuse to settle for purchasing a product I'm not happy with, simply because it's the newest Dragon Ball game. You shouldn't either.

If we all just pretended the game was as good as it's going to get, that's all we're going to get.

As someone that looks at it from both sides of the specturm, I can honestly say the " Dragonballers " are too much. It's like when a child walks into a candy store and wants EVERYTHING.... But guess what ? He/she can't. One can't speak for a whole community either. A game could be good but that doesn't mean everyone is going to like it, that's the truth. That's the point I myself am making. Apparently not liking equates to sucking, which is a poorly conditioned way of looking at things.

As Shin Chou already said, these games are literally almost perfect, but you guys dont see it, you are in a lot of ways spoiled, not everything you want can be in the game ,my only wish is real destruction just like it really is in the series.

No Dragon Ball Z ever has captured the 100% essence of Dragon Ball Z. All of the games have limits, when it comes to the combat, health, strategy, stage size, stage variety, character depth, variety, and features. If these games are "near perfect", then there would be no reason for them to keep releasing new games every year with the same headlines, "brand new gameplay features", "XX amount, of new characters never before seen".

They wouldn't take out things and add things, it's like every single new game is a brand new game that blatantly ignores its predecessor's existence. I really can't agree with these games being literally almost perfect.

The 100% essence ? Does it have to ?! It's JUST Dragonball. It's JUST a game. Not the " Secret " ! The logistics of what DBZ is ARE there. I'm sorry.... I'm throwing my hands up in the air on this one.... Clearly the minority of the community are the people who want a good game and just want to have fun. Not science.

[Rostir]

these games are literally almost perfect, but you guys dont see it, you are in a lot of ways spoiled, not everything you want can be in the game

Almost perfect? Are we even playing the same game? This series leaves a LOT to be desired in EVERY SINGLE CATEGORY.

As consumers, there is no such thing as being spoiled because we have every right to demand everything we could possibly want. The developers aren't entitled to our money; if we're going to shell out $60, it better damn well be on something we're happy with. I refuse to settle for purchasing a product I'm not happy with, simply because it's the newest Dragon Ball game. You shouldn't either.

If we all just pretended the game was as good as it's going to get, that's all we're going to get.

As someone that looks at it from both sides of the specturm, I can honestly say the " Dragonballers " are too much. It's like when a child walks into a candy store and wants EVERYTHING.... But guess what ? He/she can't. And you can't speak for a whole community either, a game could be good but that doesn't mean everyone is going to like it, that's the truth. That's the point I myself am making.

As Shin Chou already said, these games are literally almost perfect, but you guys dont see it, you are in a lot of ways spoiled, not everything you want can be in the game ,my only wish is real destruction just like it really is in the series.

No Dragon Ball Z ever has captured the 100% essence of Dragon Ball Z. All of the games have limits, when it comes to the combat, health, strategy, stage size, stage variety, character depth, variety, and features. If these games are "near perfect", then there would be no reason for them to keep releasing new games every year with the same headlines, "brand new gameplay features", "XX amount, of new characters never before seen".

They wouldn't take out things and add things, it's like every single new game is a brand new game that blatantly ignores its predecessor's existence. I really can't agree with these games being literally almost perfect.

The 100% essence ? Does it have to ?! It's JUST Dragonball. It's JUST a game. Not the " Secret " ! The logistics of what DBZ is ARE there. I'm sorry.... I'm throwing my hands up in the air on this one.... Clearly the minority of the community are the people who want a good game and just want to have fun. Not science.

No where in my post did I say that a Dragon Ball Z game had to have the 100% essence, or that I want a Dragon Ball Z game to have to 100% essence. Perfection = 100%, which is what I was stating, no Dragon Ball Z game has been near perfect.

[batistabus]

As someone that looks at it from both sides of the specturm, I can honestly say the " Dragonballers " are too much ! It's like when a child walks into a candy store and wants EVERYTHING.... But guess what ? He/she can't. And you can't speak for a whole community either, a game could be good but that doesn't mean everyone is going to like it, that's the truth. That's the point I myself am making.

I honestly think most of these requests are reasonable. And sure, we might WANT everything out of the next DB game, but we know we're not going to get it. I guarantee everyone here owns at least one DB video game they have some sort of gripe with, but bought it anyway. And if they don't want to buy it, then that's their decision.

Obviously one cannot speak for the whole community, but it's not as if we're designing the game. Our complaints should focus on what we as individuals want, not what we think is realistic and the greater community would accept.

[Shin_Chou_Senshi]

No where in my post did I say that a Dragon Ball Z game had to have the 100% essence, or that I want a Dragon Ball Z game to have to 100% essence. Perfection = 100%, which is what I was stating, no Dragon Ball Z game has been near perfect.

I know, but the fact that you brought the arguement up says that you do. It is near perfect in a logical sense. It brings to me the aesthetic and fun factor of the DBZ experience. Save the science for the anime. These characters use bukujutsu, they wield ki, they know how to fight. Those are the things that without them, it wouldn't be DB. Those things are there and done well, so what is it left to want except a multitude of COUNTLESS in-between, this or that demands ?

[Rostir]

No where in my post did I say that a Dragon Ball Z game had to have the 100% essence, or that I want a Dragon Ball Z game to have to 100% essence. Perfection = 100%, which is what I was stating, no Dragon Ball Z game has been near perfect.

I know, but the fact that you brought the arguement up says that you do. It is near perfect. It brings to me the aesthetic and fun factor of the DBZ experience. Save the science for the anime. These characters use bukujutsu, they wield ki, they know how to fight. Those are the things that without them, it wouldn't be DB. Those things are there and done well, so what is it left to want except a multitude of COUNTLESS in-between, this or that demands ?

No it doesn't, I think you need to realize the difference between an excellent game and a perfect game.

This, is a fantastic game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6xCHoSeYu8

But it isn't perfect, nearly every game has flaws, my point is that none of these games are near perfect. I own over 20 Dragon Ball Z games, that I personally have problems with, but I still play them, but they don't have to be perfect for me to enjoy them.

[Shin_Chou_Senshi]

No where in my post did I say that a Dragon Ball Z game had to have the 100% essence, or that I want a Dragon Ball Z game to have to 100% essence. Perfection = 100%, which is what I was stating, no Dragon Ball Z game has been near perfect.

I know, but the fact that you brought the arguement up says that you do. It is near perfect. It brings to me the aesthetic and fun factor of the DBZ experience. Save the science for the anime. These characters use bukujutsu, they wield ki, they know how to fight. Those are the things that without them, it wouldn't be DB. Those things are there and done well, so what is it left to want except a multitude of COUNTLESS in-between, this or that demands ?

No it doesn't, I think you need to realize the difference between an excellent game and a perfect game.

This, is a fantastic game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6xCHoSeYu8

But it isn't perfect, nearly every game has flaws, my point is that none of these games are near perfect. I own over 20 Dragon Ball Z games, that I personally have problems with, but I still play them, but they don't have to be perfect for me to enjoy them.

Exactly ! They DON'T have to be perfect. Let the anime be. Shoot, even that has it's flaws, but so do we as humans. And I have this game. I love it ! But that's that and this is this. What makes that anymore fantastic than DBZUT ? I have no control over what moves I want to do, and I'm pretty much comboing and zipping around as I would in BT3, RB2 and DBZUT.... But it's " fantastic " ? Ok. I'm not disagreeing, I'm just saying. DBZ has the luxury of being able to be realized in a number of ways as a game. That's the beauty of the material. That being said, we shouldn't even compare them. Although, DBZ:Legends is very akin to this, minus the simultaneous fighting.

[mysticboy]

Clear image of the scan:
http://www.uproda.net/down/uproda326028.jpg

Can someone translate?

[DarkGokuZ]

.. What is that comic in the left of the scan.

There's a lot of great news, I am really excited about this game, I think it will be really good.

[Rukura]

Shin_Chou_Senshi, i just cannot read another post from you, man. That "holier than thou" atitude that shows in 90% of what you're writting here, as well as that "wannabe-Messiah" complex that makes you feel the need to tell everybody how they need to feel about the community and this game (and that anyone that doesn't share your opinion clearly has a problem) is, quite honestly, sickening.

You seem to have missed the point that this is a thread to discuss the new information that comes out regarding this game, as well as what we as individuals would like to be or not be in the game and share perspectives......you seem to be doing the same...but regarding the community and/or specific users....but not the game (checked the thread's topic lately?)

I'm not a moderator, or an administrator, or anyone with any sort of authority on this forum.
I'm simply a fellow user advising you to either change that sour atitude regarding the community that you keep throwing on everyone's face or simply leave before it bites you in the ass at the hand of someone in the forum with the authority to do that for you. If all you're gonna do is hurt discussions, i don't get why you joined this community.


Now, in stuff that actually matters (and sorry for getting so off-topic) has anyone posted or know what the button layouts and movesets are?

[MajinUchiha]

Well to me its almost perfect, look at the games before the Tenkaichi series were made, did they play like the games of today? NO, The Only game that can be said that was like this was Dragonball Z Legends, that game was epic awesome! i still own the original japanese game, but sadly cant play it on my PS3 ,so i have it on my PC.


The Raging Blast series had lots of flaws but still was very good, you guys dont have as much fun as i do because all you do is buy it & look for flaws to complain about here, jeez that isnt what the game is for, i agree that we can critizice the games but i believe we should to a certain extent, most of you take it too far, read this a lot of times "THE MORE YOU EXPECT, THE MORE YOU WILL BE LET DOWN" Its a fact, I'm just like all of you, i wish these games had tons of things for example, i wish i could play as Kid Vegeta, GT Goten & Kid Super Saiyan Gohan (with long hair), i haven't been able to because they have yet to see the day in a game, am i not going to buy the game because of this? NO, thats dumb, RB & UT plays like a DBZ game should (obviously they have some minor flaws like bad camera angles, so what?), it moves like the real DBZ, looks just like DBZ, only thing missing is the recreation of every scene in the series with a game, much like Budokai 1, every game has flaws but its up to us to go over that & enjoy the games, just like we were kids, we would party, scream & get super excited when we got a new game, we didnt care of the game was bad, we just wanted it, maybe those game were reviewed & got a bad scoring....did we know that? did we care? NO we just play the hell out of it!

[InfernalVegito]

I think the thing one could complain about the most is simply why they add new things in every successive DB game but remove things they've added before even though the successive game is part of a series of games. And on top of it all when it's done by the same developer. That's what I have a gripe with the most.

[goku the krump dancer]

The game is looking better I admit but its faaaar from perfect. Honestly to me the only thing this game seems to have going for it is the explosions and the battle damage(Theres a video with Trunks fighting and he has ripps in his pant and his jacket). The auras look good too, especially Broly's and Freeza's and I'm anxious to see Yi Shin Long's and SSJ4 Gogeta's aura. So basically as far as the DB "LOOK" goes then yeah this game is really good except that Goku's costume is kinda messed up and we dont know if thats going to change or not.

Gameplay however leaves a lot to be desired so far. All we've seen to this point was I guess the maximum combo thing thats basically like the Raging Soul combo in RB2 last year only now its finished off with a badass Kiai that sends you flying through a mountain and can even be topped off with a super/ultimate. Besides that all we've seen was people looking like they're trying to only pull off that one combo and most of them fail every time, witch that isnt a bad thing but it just seems like every character has that one basic combo then you have to switch that up between dodging and what not which now has a bar or a meter idk?? I know you guys are blaming the people on the controller saying that they suck at the game but maybe thats not the case. Perhaps the button layout is different (which people have asked about but I guess no one knows for sure as of right now) or if worst comes to worst then maybe that IS the only combo in the game lol God forbid.


EDIT:

I think the thing one could complain about the most is simply why they add new things in every successive DB game but remove things they've added before even though the successive game is part of a series of games. And on top of it all when it's done by the same developer. That's what I have a gripe with the most.

Yeah its been Like that since the beginning. Budokai 1 had cutscene(the best ones), stage destruction and character reactions in opening fights in versus mode, Budokai 2 didnt have any of those things but it did have neat what-ifs (Teincha, the Boo absorptions etc), Budokai 3 had no what if characters at all and I can go on and on but you get the idea and I agree that thats just dumb on the developers part.

[Saimaroimaru]

The game is looking better I admit but its faaaar from perfect. Honestly to me the only thing this game seems to have going for it is the explosions and the battle damage(Theres a video with Trunks fighting and he has ripps in his pant and his jacket). The auras look good too, especially Broly's and Freeza's and I'm anxious to see Yi Shin Long's and SSJ4 Gogeta's aura. So basically as far as the DB "LOOK" goes then yeah this game is really good except that Goku's costume is kinda messed up and we dont know if thats going to change or not.

Gameplay however leaves a lot to be desired so far. All we've seen to this point was I guess the maximum combo thing thats basically like the Raging Soul combo in RB2 last year only now its finished off with a badass Kiai that sends you flying through a mountain and can even be topped off with a super/ultimate. Besides that all we've seen was people looking like they're trying to only pull off that one combo and most of them fail every time, witch that isnt a bad thing but it just seems like every character has that one basic combo then you have to switch that up between dodging and what not which now has a bar or a meter idk?? I know you guys are blaming the people on the controller saying that they suck at the game but maybe thats not the case. Perhaps the button layout is different (which people have asked about but I guess no one knows for sure as of right now) or if worst comes to worst then maybe that IS the only combo in the game lol God forbid.


EDIT:

I think the thing one could complain about the most is simply why they add new things in every successive DB game but remove things they've added before even though the successive game is part of a series of games. And on top of it all when it's done by the same developer. That's what I have a gripe with the most.

Yeah its been Like that since the beginning. Budokai 1 had cutscene(the best ones), stage destruction and character reactions in opening fights in versus mode, Budokai 2 didnt have any of those things but it did have neat what-ifs (Teincha, the Boo absorptions etc), Budokai 3 had no what if characters at all and I can go on and on but you get the idea and I agree that thats just dumb on the developers part.

The first three Budokai games seems like three different interpretations of the series than actual sequels to each other, I guess that fact they used the capsule system and was developed by Dimps is what strings them together besides their name. From the looks of it IW only seems like a sequel of anything.

[mystic trunks]

The game is looking better I admit but its faaaar from perfect. Honestly to me the only thing this game seems to have going for it is the explosions and the battle damage(Theres a video with Trunks fighting and he has ripps in his pant and his jacket).

Did you just say Fighting Trunks has his jacket as an alt?!

[Saimaroimaru]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRAdJOiF ... ideo_title

Yeah, I'm sold. I getting this game.

[mysticboy]

The game is looking better I admit but its faaaar from perfect. Honestly to me the only thing this game seems to have going for it is the explosions and the battle damage(Theres a video with Trunks fighting and he has ripps in his pant and his jacket).

Did you just say Fighting Trunks has his jacket as an alt?!

No. He just Trunks was fighting not Fighting Trunks.
I think this is the video he was referring to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8C6jZPoDWA