FUNimation DBZ TV Blu-ray Official On-Going Thread

[jjgp1112]

And it exists on on the Season Sets. Which all of the common run of the mill fans bought and are happy with. The kind of people who can't have DragonBall Z without Faulconer are not the type of people to re-buy DBZ when they already have it on their Season Sets.

We've told the run-of-the-mill fans that the dub score they love so much is on the orange sets so they shouldn't have even bitched about the lack of it on the Dragon Boxes. And what do they say? "Fuck that shit! We don't want that just on the orange boxes! We want it on the Dragon Boxes!"

It is attitudes like that that make me embarrassed to be an anime fan sometimes.

All of the Android, Cell, and Buu episodes are untouched (save for a couple of additional and omitted lines and Buu having a higher pitched voice due to them using an unrevised audio tape).

So Buu sounding like Elmo from Sesame Street was the result of an unrevised audio tape?

I always pictured the proper dub Buu sounding like Peter Lorre if it was any of FUNimation's intention.

I was referring to Super Buu in the Season sets, my bad for not being clear.

And are you purposefully misremembering those arguments? The people who wanted the dub score on the DBoxes also wanted it because they wanted to enjoy the dub score with the best looking video, not because they just thought it should be there. C'mon, man, don't be like that.

[MarcFBR]

Eh, what are you talking about? Savage68 said some episodes of Z were printed on 35 film and such episodes would look as good as the double features. He just controvert an opinion of Luke Groundwalker by that fact. What's that irrelevant to this thread?

Because in the case of the DBZ TV show, it is less the film stock and more the detail put into the animation quality.

35mm will have less grain, but won't generally look better if digitized and encoded correctly because the truth is... DBZ isn't animated with much detail.

[Kingdom Heartless]

The fact they didn't announce anything about the Dragon Box movie set has me a little concerned.

[jjgp1112]

The fact they didn't announce anything about the Dragon Box movie set has me a little concerned.

They said they won't announce anything about those until after the Z sets are finished.

[ohaimynameiserik]

Uh...you'd actually be surprised. Everybody I know in my area, who probably haven't watched Z since the Toonami days, have all watched Kai at some point in the past year and have all had the same reaction: "What the fuck is this shit?" "What's up with Gohan's voice?!" "This music sucks, where's that song from when Goku went Super Saiyan, that shit was dope!" and so on.

That is, until you put in your DVD's and show them both versions back to back like I did with one of my friends who was exactly like that.

His response, vaguely, was "Oh..."

[Gotham22]

uh........


Saiyan saga has been released:

1. Edited Ocean DVDs
2. Ultimate Uncut Editions
3. Orange Bricks
4. Dragon Boxes
5. Kai I suppose
6. Blu Bricks

Ridiculous.

I wouldn't count the UUE since they were incomplete. Maybe Kai since Kai isn't really Z

[Pokewhiz7]

uh........


Saiyan saga has been released:

1. Edited Ocean DVDs
2. Ultimate Uncut Editions
3. Orange Bricks
4. Dragon Boxes
5. Kai I suppose
6. Blu Bricks

Ridiculous.

I wouldn't count the UUE since they were incomplete. Maybe Kai since Kai isn't really Z

Regardless, it was still another release of those episodes. Raditz has arrived many times.

[Gotham22]

FUNimation sure likes to rerelease the series over and over. First with a bad episode count like 3, 13 or 17 episodes. Then another release with more episodes.

[Cipher]

No one's at least willing to see how the visuals stack up to the Dragon Boxes? Kai looks far better than the Dragon Boxes, so if they are actually remastering the series again and can achieve something close to that, it'd be pretty cool.

Probably not enough for me to buy it, but still pretty cool.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

I, for one, thought this was inevitable. This is the Dragon Ball franchise and FUNimation, after all.



I didn't buy the Dragon Boxes and I'd love an excuse to buy DBZ on Blu-ray, but given FUNimation's past, this might eventuate in crap. But who knows? I'm not going to comment further on this until I see some footage or even some screenshots.

[xzero]

I have no intention of buying 17 Blu Ray sets of 17 or so episodes each. I have too many copies of DBZ to begin with. I'd consider it later when they start re-releasing them with higher episode counts, but only if it features a completely new dub and both Faulconer and Kikuchi BGM options. No new dub = no Blu Ray purchase.

[The Tori-bot]

I would take Dragon Boxes of the other two chunks of the series over even clearer!shitty remastering any day. My reaction upon seeing this in the news update was a resounding "Oh, for f***'s sake!"

[Cipher]

I would take Dragon Boxes of the other two chunks of the series over even clearer!shitty remastering any day.

But, we have no idea how "shitty" the remastering will be here. Sure, they could be re-using the Season Set footage, which would be awful. But they were really using noise reduction competently by the time they got to later sets and, especially, the double-feature releases.

These sets are definitely superfluous and too low on episodes. But it seems like most people are really jumping the gun by not giving the video the benefit of the doubt. There's a distinct possibility we could end up with a viable alternative to the Dragon Boxes. At least something where the decision would really only amount to film grain and color preference.

[The Tori-bot]

I would take Dragon Boxes of the other two chunks of the series over even clearer!shitty remastering any day.

But, we have no idea how "shitty" the remastering will be here. Sure, they could be re-using the Season Set footage, which would be awful. But they were really using noise reduction competently by the time they got to later sets and, especially, the double-feature releases.

These sets are definitely superfluous and too low on episodes. But it seems like most people are really jumping the gun by not giving the video the benefit of the doubt. There's a distinct possibility we could end up with a viable alternative to the Dragon Boxes. At least something where the decision would really only amount to film grain and color preference.

Considering the season set masters were apparently already in HD, I could definitely see it just being a case of touching them up a little and sticking 'em on Blu-ray. Add to that the fact that they're using the same company and colourist... and it doesn't exactly instill a lot of enthusiasm or expectation in my Toribotic® hard-drive. I mean, why remaster the whole darn thing AGAIN at what must be quite a cost when you've already got something perfectly serviceable (not "great" or even "quite good", but nonetheless serviceable) for Blu-ray anyway?

The press release didn't mention an aspect ratio (I wonder why...?) but I hope we hear something about that soon. Then we'd pretty much know what to expect in terms of how "re" the remastering is.

[PuppetDoctor]

I really don't care that Dragon Ball Z is coming to Blu-ray since I am happy with my Dragon Boxes, but I am surprised they are only putting 17 episodes a set for a series that is 291 episodes.

I am just disappointed that instead of maybe releasing another Dragon Box (although, there is a chance of an announcement at Otakon) they are opting to releasing another Dragon Ball Z re-release. While I understand this makes sense since it is Funimation's cash cow as fan its a disappointment.

[LeprikanGT]

Only thing bugging me IS the super low episode count, this may be the first release I hold out on to see if they come out with a box set later on.

I'm thinking about selling my [complete] set of the singles but I doubt at this point I'd get anything near what I'd want for them.

Did they show any footage or boxart for the Blurays?

[G1Ravage]

It's obvious to me, based on the press release, that this is merely a Blu-ray release of the existing "remastered" Orange Brick footage. Which we all expected to be released on Blu-ray someday when it was first announced in 2007. I will bet money, RIGHT HERE AND NOW, that the "behind the scenes" look at the remastering process will be the exact same extra from the Orange Bricks as well. FUNi is not known for trying new things on a re-released product. The One Piece season set that was just released, while having new packaging and disc art, is literally just a rip of the original discs, right down to the ancient advertisement for DBZ Orange Brick #5 that precedes the menu.

They continue to mention correcting colors and preserving the original intent, and how the footage must've looked like this when it was first printed...BULLSHIT. We have that already. It's called the Dragon Box. It's the most complete release of Dragon Ball Z there has ever been, contains 40+ episodes per volume, in a clean seven volumes, and is the ONLY release that anyone who posts here as a fan of the Japanese version should be seriously considering purchasing.

[Mountain]

No one's at least willing to see how the visuals stack up to the Dragon Boxes? Kai looks far better than the Dragon Boxes, so if they are actually remastering the series again and can achieve something close to that, it'd be pretty cool.

Probably not enough for me to buy it, but still pretty cool.

I disagree.

[Cipher]

I disagree.

I love my Dragon Boxes to bits, but it can't compete with the lack of grain (with minimal blurring) and richer, more accurate colors.

I know it's a matter of opinion, but it's almost not. I think you'd find very, very few people outside this specific fan community, wherein Dragon Box footage seems to have attained an undue amount of clout, who would agree with it looking better than Kai. It's surpassed in just about every standard of objective quality.

To keep this on-topic, I see why people are predicting a re-use of the Season Set footage now. I'd forgotten it was already done in HD, etc. I can definitely see this being the case.

They continue to mention correcting colors and preserving the original intent, and how the footage must've looked like this when it was first printed...BULLSHIT. We have that already. It's called the Dragon Box.

Oh wow. The Dragon Boxes deserve praise for many, many things, but color accuracy isn't one of them. I think that's been put to rest in a number of threads on this forum.

[.:PoetikaL:.]

Well, I'm thinking this: You know how the old footage looks on Kai? I'm thinking that is what FUNi's goal is. They want to achieve that form of remastering, without the issues they had with the Orange Bricks.

That's what I'm thinking, anyways.