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Re: Ooishi Doing V-Jump Manga: Episode of Bardock

Post by B » Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:30 pm

DNA wrote:Who are these aliens?
They are the people of Plant, as stated in the chapter. Plant eventually becomes Vegeta.
DNA wrote:Is Chilled related to Freeza in any way?
If I can answer a question with a question, why is this important at all?
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Re: Ooishi Doing V-Jump Manga: Episode of Bardock

Post by DNA » Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:39 pm

B wrote:They are the people of Plant, as stated in the chapter. Plant eventually becomes Vegeta.
Yeah, nice one, last time I checked, the people of Plant were the Tsufurians. Where are they? This is just changing all previous history of Plant.
B wrote:If I can answer a question with a question, why is this important at all?
They are both members of the same very exclusive race, oh are also land-sharks. Yes it is somewhat important.

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Post by Herms » Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:45 pm

DNA wrote:Yeah, nice one, last time I checked, the people of Plant were the Tsufurians. Where are they? This is just changing all previous history of Plant.
There could be more than one sentient race on the planet.
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Re: Ooishi Doing V-Jump Manga: Episode of Bardock

Post by Rukura » Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:50 pm

DNA wrote:What about all the other appearances the Tsufurians already made? And all the backstory? This is not the Yadratians that made an appearance in flashback in the Anime and were designed by Toei, the Tsufurians were already designed by Toriyama and they do NOT look anything like these guys. Also the redesign of the Yadratians does not raise any inconsistencies, the redesign of the Tsufurians on the other hand. How did these guys create the scouters? I keep telling ya, these are NOT the Tsufurians, at best they are Plantians. Which raises the question, where did the Tsufurians come from?
Short answer: I have no idea, i'm not writting this special and just trying to figure it out as i see it lol.
But they are aliens, so they can pretty much go wild. Maybe the Tsufurians could have evolved not only technologically, but as a species? Or maybe the Tsufurians get a hold of Planet Plant LONG before the Saiyans get there.
DNA wrote:How the fuck would that even work? Freeza is not a pokemon, and Chilled does not look in anyway like Freeza, neither physical look, colour scheme, mannerisms, age? Oh also, he doesn't have the same name, don't know if you noticed that. And no, unless Bardock finds a way to live about a thousand years, he does not fit.
I'm gonna go on a limb and say neither of use look all that much like when we were babies and we're not even alien lol. If this is also kind of a tie-in to Dragon Ball Heroes, are we not already seeing so many possible looks for this race? I used the Pokemon analogy because if he grew up and wanted to have a "bigger" name than Chilled, he wouldn't have had to go through much paperwork to change it to Freeza :lol:

Also, of course he doesn't fit at all timeline-wise lol. I just found it funny to see him in a context that could hypothetically fit the origins of that race, that's all lol
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Re: Ooishi Doing V-Jump Manga: Episode of Bardock

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:56 pm

Rukura wrote:I'm gonna go on a limb and say neither of use look all that much like when we were babies and we're not even alien lol. If this is also kind of a tie-in to Dragon Ball Heroes, are we not already seeing so many possible looks for this race?
Speaking possible looks for the race, I just recently found a back view of the Dragon World Collectible Vol 6 "Imaginary" Freeza, and was shocked when I saw his head had become a bit hollow... lol I wonder if they contacted Toriyama to help flesh out the design that was really only shown from the front, and from the waist up in the manga and anime...or if they just finished the design on their own:

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Post by DNA » Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:58 pm

Makes me remember that on the original Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans Vegeta says that the Tsufurs treated the Saiyans like slaves. Perhaps the Tsufurs brought the Saiyans from planet Saiya (as stated from the GT Daizenshuu like books) and colonized Plant with slave work.

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Post by Rukura » Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:07 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Speaking possible looks for the race, I just recently found a back view of the Dragon World Collectible Vol 6 "Imaginary" Freeza, and was shocked when I saw his head had become a bit hollow... lol I wonder if they contacted Toriyama to help flesh out the design that was really only shown from the front, and from the waist up in the manga and anime...or if they just finished the design on their own:
*snip*
He looks cooler (buh dum tchin) and creepier at the same time, more than i thought possible lol. But now i'm curious to know if Toriyama drew it too :P

DNA wrote:Makes me remember that on the original Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans Vegeta says that the Tsufurs treated the Saiyans like slaves. Perhaps the Tsufurs brought the Saiyans from planet Saiya (as stated from the GT Daizenshuu like books) and colonized Plant with slave work.
That could work too. She can tie all this to so much stuff...i wonder if it can all fit into one last chapter :?:
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Post by DNA » Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:16 pm

Somehow I think she won't bother explaining anything at all.

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Post by Rukura » Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:24 pm

DNA wrote:Somehow I think she won't bother explaining anything at all.
When thinking about all these possibilities...and reading Dragon Ball SD (specially the last one)...i kinda feel the same.

I'll try to keep my wishlist simple then lol:
Rukura wrote:Bardock goes Super Saiyan; Defeats Chilled; A legend is born and will now be spread throughout generations; Wrap-up with tie-in with the ending of the TV Special (with a little luck maybe even with Goku's fight with Freeza).
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Post by DNA » Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:28 pm

By the way, TheDevilsCorpse, don't you have a smaller version of that image? My laptop can't even load that shit :|

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:58 pm

DNA wrote:By the way, TheDevilsCorpse, don't you have a smaller version of that image? My laptop can't even load that shit :|
No, but I'll make one real quick.. lol

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Post by DNA » Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:03 pm

Oh, that, yeah, I was thinking of something else, but yeah I love that "form" xD

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:53 am

Chilled and...Tobi (I think, bad quality), in color. lol
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Post by Michsi » Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:37 am

Though I find the idea interesting and the art pretty good , it's hard for me to see this as anything more than just a "what if" story. While I'm happy we have new DB material, all these canon/continuity possibilities can become confusing and I've never been that fond of these multiple versions of the story/ multiple universes idea like we see with Teshi Muyo or DC.

In my case, Bardock perished together with his race. :?

Though I'll wait and see if the last chapter impresses me enough to change my mind.....

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Re: Ooishi Doing V-Jump Manga: Episode of Bardock

Post by MajinVegetaSSj6 » Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:08 am

so when the final chapter of Episode of Bardock will be released? :?:

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Post by SHINOBI-03 » Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:19 am

MajinVegetaSSj6 wrote:so when the final chapter of Episode of Bardock will be released? :?:
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Post by perucho1990 » Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:24 am

Not really a fan of the villain, he seems like an short,chubby version of Frieza, the rest is good.

If this is succesful, I hope we see a Vegeta and Frieza specials, and also a new DB manga that replaces GT.

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Re: Ooishi Doing V-Jump Manga: Episode of Bardock

Post by DNA » Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:04 pm

Next month!? Really? I thought we would be getting it about 20 something of this month. Dang, now I'm annoyed.

On the other topic, I wouldn't mind if Ooishi would be in charge of these small special chapters. Imagine the possibilities of explaining other "what if" forms and characters. How and why did Trunks attain Super Saiyan 3? What about Vegeta and Broly? In which situation did Tenshinhan and Yamcha fuse?

What I'm still most eagerly waiting to see is a special further cementing [Neko Majin] Z into Dragon Ball continuity, showing him training under Goku. Maybe rewriting Toriyama's 5 chapters into something less "gag-y" and more "dragon ball-ish".
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:33 pm

No, you're right. Around the 20th of June, July, and August, so it should be in the next week or so that we get scans. I'd like some backgrounds for the 3 SS3 characters from her, maybe some of the other fun what-ifs we've had before as well. I don't really mind her work as much as some others do (not saying its great, but I still like it).

Though I'd specify that you mean the Neko Majin stuff in your last paragraph, I read that like 4 times until it dawned on me what the hell you meant. xD
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Re: Ooishi Doing V-Jump Manga: Episode of Bardock

Post by DNA » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:01 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Though I'd specify that you mean the Neko Majin stuff in your last paragraph, I read that like 4 times until it dawned on me what the hell you meant. xD
I edited it a bit, yeah I meant Neko Majin. I don't like to call him "Neko Majin" or "Neko Majin Z" because he is A Neko Majin called Z. It would be like saying "Saiyan Vegeta" or "Namekian Piccolo".

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