What time slot did DBZ originally air in Japan?

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Wed Feb 18, 2004 12:15 am

You should give it points for trying though. The 90s series was really a series of adaptions of the comics, and was also arguably the first real cartoon-with-mature-bits that really differentiated those shows from their 80s bretheren.

But there's no way they'd make another cartoon exactly the same a mere 7 years later. And in many ways, Evolution goes back to one of the original idea for the X-Men: a school for young teenagers learning how to control their powers.

And I have to love the sheer cheek of making Gambit and Collossus into "bad guys".

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Wed Feb 18, 2004 12:38 am

Ohno don't get me wrong, I loved the old series' campyness! And I see and also am in agreement with your points about the new show. But I still don't like it. It's just the way I feel. My own little hang-up.

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Wed Feb 18, 2004 1:09 am

Fair enough. You're allowed any opinion you want. As long as you aren't going to say something crazy like "the original He-Man" series was obviously much better written and more intelligent than the new one. Or "Teamo Supremo" is better than the Powerpuff Girls.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Wed Feb 18, 2004 1:37 am

No I don't like Teamo Supremo, I've actually never even watched it, but I will say that I like the old He-Man for that fun campyness again and really cheap-looking animation. Except that I like the new He-Man series too.

Zackarotto · Post by **Zackarotto** » Wed Feb 18, 2004 11:00 am

I've never heard of a southern goth. But I don't really hear of any southern people. Except maybe my grandma. I swear I'm putting her in a home.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Wed Feb 18, 2004 5:06 pm

Liam, I'm curious to know what you think of Samurai Jack?

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Wed Feb 18, 2004 8:44 pm

I wasn't overly impressed at first, mainly because it suffered from "Gilligan's Island/Voyager Sydrome". Ie, they set up the show in such a way that there can never be any resolution to the set-up without it causing the show to end.

But it's grown on me. There are some really cool episodes. Jack vs Aku was great, with the "I knew that you knew that I knew that you knew that I would cheat" bit.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Wed Feb 18, 2004 8:51 pm

Ya I thought that too. I was suprised it ever got made, because it's so obviously a homage to Kurosawa's films and also the Lone Wolf and Cub films. I figured the same thing would happen with it that happened with Fox's broadcast of Escaflowne. It would just go over kids' heads. But I've heard some kids say they like it, not many, but some. It's definitely a very creative and imaginative show.

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:57 pm

I'm guessing it's all about "marketable demographics". The Powerpuff Girls sell shitloads of merchandise, hence the show running longer than any other Cartoon Network show ever had. Samurai Jack is likely to have a lot of older fans, hence they can sell better advertising blocks. Maybe.

I do know that Jackie Chan has stated that he wants to play Jack in a movie adaption.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Wed Feb 18, 2004 10:05 pm

That would be neat, but I don't know if I could see him in the role. Jackie's so comedic and cheerful.

Mattias · Post by **Mattias** » Sun Feb 22, 2004 11:06 pm

urhash wrote:I can't believe they got to watch DBZ in prime time. =D

That's the timeslot YTV chose for it from the Trunks saga to the end. It was really quite cool.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Sun Feb 22, 2004 11:17 pm

Ya it was the same with YTV for Escaflowne. That's why it did better over here and YTV was able to to run the whole series through about three times because it had a chance to gain a more mature audience. You poor guys in the States have it on around 4 or 4:30 in the afternoon on Cartoon Network right?

Mattias · Post by **Mattias** » Sun Feb 22, 2004 11:44 pm

Jerseymilk wrote:Ya it was the same with YTV for Escaflowne.

Not to mention YTV actually got all the way through Escaflowne. FOX completely axed the show after angry letter bombs from otaku. Cripes, people, if you don't like what you see on TV, just purchase the DVDs. They're cheaper than DBZ DVDs and you get more episodes on them.

EDIT: Geez, I'm breaking the rules a lot, tonight.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Sun Feb 22, 2004 11:49 pm

Actually Fox canceled the show because they were idiots who tried to broadcast a show aimed at teens to young kids who would never find it interesting. Escaflowne got pitiful ratings and was canceled. Yes hard-core otaku did complain, but trust me, otaku are a small group and it's rare that big networks like Fox give a care what they say. If that were the case, you'd be getting uncut dual language DVDs of Yugi-Oh! and Shaman King.

tablet the eunuch · Post by **tablet the eunuch** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 12:53 am

Escaflowne, for the moment atleast, is not cheaper than DBZ, and you get roughly the same ammount of episodes per DVD.

In march though the individual DVDs go down to $15 RRP US each, so other places should have them fairly cheap