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Re: DragonBall GT: Revised

Post by Maphisto86 » Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:15 am

You cannot rush a good thing. :wink:

Judging by the look of the lounge from that illustration, your description from ch.12's is exactly how I envisioned it when reading. I was afraid I was not getting every detail right as I remember being tired when reading the last chapter. It is a credit to your writing Sean that I would still envision it almost exactly as how you drew it.

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Re: DragonBall GT: Revised

Post by SSJ YUSUKE » Mon Jul 04, 2011 5:02 pm

I have just finished reading chapter 12 and I must say that this is by far the best Dragonball related fanfic I've ever read :D I really like Redgic's back story and his run in with Bardocks crew, I also loved how he turned down Ginyu and how he rubbed the whole Sauzer thing in his face :lol:
Also in the earlier chapters I liked how even the most minor characters have gotten some screen time, this is something which the original GT as well as the latter part of Z completely ignored. I think that the Pan in this story is leagues ahead of the original and love the fact that she has a much more interesting character.
I look forward to reading the next chapter, so keep up the good work.

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Re: DragonBall GT: Revised

Post by Kaboom » Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:44 am

Thanks for the encouragement, guys. Feedback makes for great motivation. And to prove I'm really finally making progress, here's a snippet I just wrote, from about 2/3rds through the chapter.
Chapter 13 wrote:“Wow,” Goku said, giving a sly grin. “You are really strong. I'm getting excited.”

“No,” Redgic responded sternly. “This isn't enough.”

“Huh?” Goku said. “Whatcha talkin' about? You're doin' really goo-”

“Don't patronize me!” Redgic snapped, visibly annoyed. “I can tell you're holding back! I can feel much, much more power within you, and if you were using it, then I wouldn't have such an easy edge on you like this!” Goku took a more solemn expression as Redgic continued to chastise him. “I told you I wasn't going to hold anything back! Now, as a fellow warrior, grant me the same courtesy!”

“... I can't,” Goku quietly responded. “You'll die.”
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Re: DragonBall GT: Revised

Post by Great Saiyaman I » Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:50 am

Kaboom, you're really killing me here with the wait. At the rate you're writing with how long it is, you could print it out and beat people with it. Hope it turns out good.

Question: What's a rough estimate for how many chapters GTR will be total?
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Re: DragonBall GT: Revised

Post by Kaboom » Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:51 am

Great Saiyaman I wrote:Question: What's a rough estimate for how many chapters GTR will be total?
My current guess/plan is 75 chapters. Stuff like that is always subject to change, though.
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Re: DragonBall GT: Revised

Post by Zephyr » Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:02 pm

Don't know if this has been asked yet, but are you planning to incorporate a less blatantly-retarded version of the Super 17 Arc? I just re-watched GT for the first time in years, and I just don't know how that whole thing could be salvaged.

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Re: DragonBall GT: Revised

Post by Kaboom » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:22 pm

Zephyr wrote:Don't know if this has been asked yet, but are you planning to incorporate a less blatantly-retarded version of the Super 17 Arc? I just re-watched GT for the first time in years, and I just don't know how that whole thing could be salvaged.
Oh yes indeed I do have something planned out. It has one or two plot elements that are a bit of a stretch, but it still makes a lot more sense than the GT version. For a while I was going back-and-forth on whether or not to include a version of it, but in the end I decided to go for it for two big reasons: 1) To serve as a segue into the Evil Dragons arc, and 2) To get Goku temporarily out of the picture so that certain other characters can shine in various ways and (collectively) bring down a major villain.
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Re: DragonBall GT: Revised

Post by Zephyr » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:44 pm

Kaboom wrote:
Zephyr wrote:Don't know if this has been asked yet, but are you planning to incorporate a less blatantly-retarded version of the Super 17 Arc? I just re-watched GT for the first time in years, and I just don't know how that whole thing could be salvaged.
Oh yes indeed I do have something planned out. It has one or two plot elements that are a bit of a stretch, but it still makes a lot more sense than the GT version. For a while I was going back-and-forth on whether or not to include a version of it, but in the end I decided to go for it for two big reasons: 1) To serve as a segue into the Evil Dragons arc, and 2) To get Goku temporarily out of the picture so that certain other characters can shine in various ways and (collectively) bring down a major villain.
That makes sense, you'd have to make some pretty big alterations to the story as a whole to give a different prologue to the Evil Dragons arc. And its nice to hear that the other characters are definitely going to be getting a fair chance for once. Looking forward to it!

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Re: DragonBall GT: Revised

Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:50 pm

Hey, Kaboom. I just saw this thread a week ago. I remember back then when I was still an active member, I went to this thread and saw that this was a fan fiction of GT. I wasn't interested in reading it at that time, but after reading some postitive posts from other guys a week ago, I decided to give it a shot. I was pleasantly surprised at how well the story was executed. I really liked how you started GT at Tenkaichi Tournament. Even though I knew Goku would be turned into a child, it still gave me chill reading it. The script is very good.The humor is great. I really like where GT is heading. I liked it so much that I downloaded PDF for Vol. 1 you provided, so I can read some chapters when I'm on bus or train to keep me occupied. :D

It's really shame that Toei never executed the story really well. It would be awesome if they made GT like yours. I'm curious. Are you planning on continue GT to Evil Dragon arc?
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Re: DragonBall GT: Revised

Post by Kaboom » Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:21 pm

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:It's really shame that Toei never executed the story really well. It would be awesome if they made GT like yours. I'm curious. Are you planning on continue GT to Evil Dragon arc?
Yes, that's definitely the plan. I'll be covering the same basic story arcs as the original GT, just done better. That's been the general idea since day one.

Now as for the current chapter's status... it's almost done. Wait! Don't hurt me! I mean it! It's got maybe two easy pages left to go. Time allowing, I hope to finish it up this weekend, shoot it off to Kino, and get it posted within the next week. Here's hoping! I'll be bumping the thread again with an extra little treat once it's off in Kino's hands, while I'm prepping all the bonus material to go along with the chapter. Look forward to it!
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Re: DragonBall GT: Revised

Post by Nex Carnifex » Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:20 pm

I've always wanted a re-imagined version of GT. GT seemed like the right direction, just with to many inconsistent feats and random characters who shouldn't have been strong enough to put up a fight with Goku. Thank you for putting your idea into motion, keep going till its done! I wanna more accurate version of Omega Shenron, that would be cool to have him like he should have been, threatening to destroy a lot more than just the planet Earth.

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Re: DragonBall GT: Revised

Post by p123 » Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:17 am

Goku forgetful of his last match? I don't know man. I mean we are talking about a guy who was waiting for Uub day in and day out in all likelihood. He's forgetful about everything except fighting.

And the wrinkles line was a perfect set up for an AT moment with Chi Chi storming mad angry face, smoke coming out of her ears beasting on Goku AT gag fest. IMO of course. Are you trying to stick to a Toriyama style as closely as possible ?

Anytime I do a fic, I try my best to stick to his habits. It's a bit hard becaue you have to try to think like someone else , but I don't know. Not really trying to be too overly critical, just speaking on my initial reactions. I'll read some more..

Excellent starting scene. I want to see action right off the back. I'm surprised you didn't go in more detail for Goku vs Uub / Buu. I'd like to hear about how that played out.


Also , Goku and Vegeta should not be aging anywhere near the same time. Vegeta has some years on Goku as well as Goku not aging for 8 years do to Otherworld as well as Vegeta using the Rosat for a year extra too.

Vegeta is what at least 5 ? Maybe 8 when Goku is born? So you are talking roughly 15 years aging wise between the two... Them aging at the same time doesn't make sense you know?
I really like the tournament idea, I think I might use that in mine as well, seems a perfect place to start...

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Re: DragonBall GT: Revised

Post by Kaboom » Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:37 pm

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Okay, now that I've got your attention...

Folks, the infamous Chapter 13 is finally complete! It took me since freakin' APRIL to finish due to a whole lot of roadblocks and writers blocks and other personal b.s. which I won't go into since you don't care about, but... it's finally done, at long last. I finished it a few nights ago, and despite the last few days being a panicked blur (dealing with a hurricane and its aftermath and what-not), I managed to get it checked over and sent off to my lovely proofreader for its final critical analysis before I publish it.

In the meantime, not only have I cranked out the sumptuous little piece of art seen above, but I'm now hard at work whipping up the various other bits of bonus material heralding the end of the Imegga mini-arc. Hopefully, I'll have it all up sometime this weekend!

Now, let's take a look-see here...
Nex Carnifex wrote:Thank you for putting your idea into motion, keep going till its done! I wanna more accurate version of Omega Shenron, that would be cool to have him like he should have been, threatening to destroy a lot more than just the planet Earth.
Thanks a bunch! I don't know how "accurate," whatever that means, I'll end up making my version of Yi/Omega/Whatshisface, but I can guarantee I'll do my best to make sure he's worth sending out the story with a bang over!
p123 wrote:Goku forgetful of his last match? I don't know man. I mean we are talking about a guy who was waiting for Uub day in and day out in all likelihood. He's forgetful about everything except fighting.
Perhaps it does seem a little bit out-of-character for Goku to forget something like that, but I was trying to stress how Goku and Vegeta were both finally starting to show their age.
And the wrinkles line was a perfect set up for an AT moment with Chi Chi storming mad angry face, smoke coming out of her ears beasting on Goku AT gag fest. IMO of course. Are you trying to stick to a Toriyama style as closely as possible ?


Well, define "Toriyama style." What you described is more like something you'd see in Dr. Slump or DB's earliest days. That's a part of the whole Dragon Ball experience, of course, and I'm trying to include a little bit of everything. But I try to save the outright goofy, over-the-top, unrealistic slapstick for the parts of the story actually dedicated to them, and not go overboard otherwise. I'm managing to inject a good amount of situational and character-based humor in every chapter thus far as it is.

Plus, keep in mind that Chi-Chi's gettin' pretty mellow too, now that she's well into her "Grandma" phase. That's what happens!
Excellent starting scene. I want to see action right off the back. I'm surprised you didn't go in more detail for Goku vs Uub / Buu. I'd like to hear about how that played out.
Well, you never know. That entire first 3-chapter chunk of the story may eventually see some... changes.
Also , Goku and Vegeta should not be aging anywhere near the same time. Vegeta has some years on Goku as well as Goku not aging for 8 years do to Otherworld as well as Vegeta using the Rosat for a year extra too.

Vegeta is what at least 5 ? Maybe 8 when Goku is born? So you are talking roughly 15 years aging wise between the two... Them aging at the same time doesn't make sense you know?
They are both getting up there, one way or another, even if there's a decent gap between them. We don't really know what the "cut-off point" for a Saiyan's prime is, really. Just that it's much later than that of your average human. It is a bit tricky, but it's something that'll be important later.
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Re: DragonBall GT: Revised

Post by StarRot » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:51 am

Yaaay, can't wait to read it.
Fantastic drawing, by the way.

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Re: DragonBall GT: Revised

Post by Maphisto86 » Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:46 pm

Kaboom wrote: *Awesome fanservice fan art here*

Okay, now that I've got your attention...
Yessim. :shock:
Kaboom wrote:
Folks, the infamous Chapter 13 is finally complete! It took me since freakin' APRIL to finish due to a whole lot of roadblocks and writers blocks and other personal b.s. which I won't go into since you don't care about, but... it's finally done, at long last. I finished it a few nights ago, and despite the last few days being a panicked blur (dealing with a hurricane and its aftermath and what-not), I managed to get it checked over and sent off to my lovely proofreader for its final critical analysis before I publish it.

In the meantime, not only have I cranked out the sumptuous little piece of art seen above, but I'm now hard at work whipping up the various other bits of bonus material heralding the end of the Imegga mini-arc. Hopefully, I'll have it all up sometime this weekend!
Geez it has been a while since the last chapter was released. Still I am sure it has been worth the wait all the same. For some reason almost everyone I have talked too have described the past spring and summer as something akin to a "panicked blur" :| . Anyway, glad Irene didn't get ya. :)

Kaboom wrote:Plus, keep in mind that Chi-Chi's gettin' pretty mellow too, now that she's well into her "Grandma" phase. That's what happens!
I actually like the mellower Chi-Chi. I mean there were many times after the DBZ saga began where Chi-Chi was less
the obssesive mama and more at ease. Like when Goku awoke from his heart virus coma for example. Still I have to admit I think it wouldn't be Chi-Chi if the frying pan of doom did not make an appearance. Or some other wacky bit of violent slapstick on her part. :wink:
Well, you never know. That entire first 3-chapter chunk of the story may eventually see some... changes.
Dunno why, but that sounded ominous. :|
They are both getting up there, one way or another, even if there's a decent gap between them. We don't really know what the "cut-off point" for a Saiyan's prime is, really. Just that it's much later than that of your average human. It is a bit tricky, but it's something that'll be important later.
Fellow forum member p123 did bring up a good point about Goku and Vegeta's age difference. Characters in the shonen genre seem to remain similar in age as adults even when there are vast differences between them (Bulma and Chi-Chi are similar example). Still even saiyans have got to reach past a physical peak sometime and I think it is a neat and original idea that can make the plot more interesting. Despite saiyans being a "warrior race" even they begin to age. It will probably close the immense gap (even if it is negligible) between Goku and Vegeta's powers compared to the other fighting characters. Heck Namekians seem to age less than saiyans so maybe Piccolo, despite his age, is still in his prime. :wink: Guys like Yamcha and Tenshinhan however would almost be old sages. That said, I would expect the older Vegeta feeling the effects of time a little more than Son Goku (who was also dead for years and thus ageless). Not to mention being more of a "grumpy grandpa" because he is . . . well Vegeta. :P

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Re: DragonBall GT: Revised

Post by CaBrPi » Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:44 pm

Wow, I just started reading this, and man, I'm actually kinda glad I made the decision to redo the movies rather than GT. I don't think I could stand up to this. It's obvious from the (seven) chapters I read tonight that you've put a lot of time and effort into this, and that was only proven when I read through this thread.

Very impressive!

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Re: DragonBall GT: Revised

Post by Kaboom » Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:58 am

Okay, so when I e-mailed Kino the chapter about a week ago or whenever it was I said I did so, it would have helped if I actually remembered to attach the chapter document itself. Despite Murphy's Law's attempts to the contrary, it IS in her hands now as of about two nights ago, and should hopefully be proofed and back in my hands soon.

So to get you all to put away the torches and pitchforks in light of that, here's a little preview of just ONE of the things I've been working on in the meanwhile.
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See? The time is being well-spent. Everyone's happy! Now, moving on...
Maphisto86 wrote:I actually like the mellower Chi-Chi. I mean there were many times after the DBZ saga began where Chi-Chi was less the obsessive mama and more at ease. Like when Goku awoke from his heart virus coma for example. Still I have to admit I think it wouldn't be Chi-Chi if the frying pan of doom did not make an appearance. Or some other wacky bit of violent slapstick on her part.
Oh, there'll be plenty of that too, don't worry. It just takes more than it used to for "the old Chi-Chi" to be coaxed out of hiding these days. :wink:
Maphisto86 wrote:Dunno why, but that sounded ominous. :|
Not as ominous as I may have inadvertently made it sound. Rather than "changes," let's call them... I dunno, "tweaks?" "Adjustments?" "Expansion?" Take your pick.

But don't worry, I'm not planning to "pull a Lucas" here and just screw around with things which ought not or need not be screwed around with. I'm not going to do anything without reasonable... uh, reason. Besides, we're talking uncertain plans here at a very uncertain date, so I probably shouldn't even have mentioned it.
Maphisto86 wrote:Fellow forum member p123 did bring up a good point about Goku and Vegeta's age difference...
It is a good point, and when I wrote those early chapters literally years ago, I think I somewhat under-estimated how much physically older Vegeta would be than Goku. Adjustments of details like this, though not too drastic, would be among what I was talking about above.
CaBrPi wrote:Wow, I just started reading this, and man, I'm actually kinda glad I made the decision to redo the movies rather than GT. I don't think I could stand up to this. It's obvious from the (seven) chapters I read tonight that you've put a lot of time and effort into this, and that was only proven when I read through this thread.
Very impressive!
Why, thank you very much! I don't know if you noticed while reading the thread, but since you've finished with Chapter 7 then I'd highly recommend reading GTR's spinoff, Cataclysm, before moving on to Chapter 8.
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Re: DragonBall GT: Revised

Post by CaBrPi » Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:49 pm

Kaboom wrote:
CaBrPi wrote:Wow, I just started reading this, and man, I'm actually kinda glad I made the decision to redo the movies rather than GT. I don't think I could stand up to this. It's obvious from the (seven) chapters I read tonight that you've put a lot of time and effort into this, and that was only proven when I read through this thread.
Very impressive!
Why, thank you very much! I don't know if you noticed while reading the thread, but since you've finished with Chapter 7 then I'd highly recommend reading GTR's spinoff, Cataclysm, before moving on to Chapter 8.
Oh, I did, and it didn't disappoint. I really loved the way you described ancient Namekian civilization, and how creating Dragon Balls was a sort of rite-of-passage from young Dragon Clan members. I'm really a sucker for "history" fanfics.

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Re: DragonBall GT: Revised

Post by Kaboom » Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:57 am

Kino is still proof-reading, which is kinda-sort good I guess, because I'm still plugging away at this last piece of artwork in Photoshop anyhoo. Here's another preview!

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I'm letting you guys see the whole thing this time. Aren't I the bestest?
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