The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[p123]

Well 16 has infinite stamina, and Cell doesn't. As well as Cell not being able to absorb him, and your talking about Cell being in some real trouble after a long battle.

I think 16 can take Cell out eventually, as long as he's not absorbing 17/18 of course.

[Godo]

Well 16 has infinite stamina, and Cell doesn't. As well as Cell not being able to absorb him, and your talking about Cell being in some real trouble after a long battle.

I think 16 can take Cell out eventually, as long as he's not absorbing 17/18 of course.

But then, 16's Hell's Flash didn't hurt Cell at all, whilst I'm pretty sure Cell could hurt 16 in some way or another. It would be a pretty tough fight for the both of them. Cell was after all a sneaky SOAB.

[p123]

16's Hell's Flash did hurt Cell, it's just that it wasn't enough to finish him. I don't think Androids can amplify ki, that seems to be a special trait. So it definitely hurt him, just wasn't overwhelmingly powerful because of no ki amplification.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Well 16 has infinite stamina, and Cell doesn't. As well as Cell not being able to absorb him, and your talking about Cell being in some real trouble after a long battle.

I think 16 can take Cell out eventually, as long as he's not absorbing 17/18 of course.

But then, 16's Hell's Flash didn't hurt Cell at all, whilst I'm pretty sure Cell could hurt 16 in some way or another. It would be a pretty tough fight for the both of them. Cell was after all a sneaky SOAB.

#16 said himself that Cell had probably been damaged, but it wasn't enough to kill him.

Chapter: 372 (DBZ 178), P8.3
Context: after Cell is hit with the Hell’s Flash
No.16: “He’s not defeated! He probably took damage, but he’s not the sort of opponent to be killed by that level of attack!”

And SOAB stands for "son of an Android bitch", right?

[Godo]

#16 said himself that Cell had probably been damaged, but it wasn't enough to kill him.

Chapter: 372 (DBZ 178), P8.3
Context: after Cell is hit with the Hell’s Flash
No.16: “He’s not defeated! He probably took damage, but he’s not the sort of opponent to be killed by that level of attack!”

Okay, I stand corrected.
In that case, it would lean to which one of them who made the biggest mistake first, alternatively until Cell lost so much power that #16's infinite power would crush him.

And SOAB stands for "son of an Android bitch", right?

Exactly, him being a creation of Dr. Gero, that would be a pretty fitting description.

[p123]

Cell having a weak ass Kamehameha, coupled with the fact that he cannot absorb 16 or drain him in anyway, plus going up against 16's infinite stamina, as well as Cell not being the most uberly skilled guy there is, I mean, for an even power fight, I definitely am leaning towards 16 9/10 times here.

[In Brightest Day]

Pui Pui vs. Dodoria - equal power levels.

The two most incompetent fighters of the entire franchise go at it to determine who sucks even worse. Who takes it?

[Kaboom]

I flipped a coin. It came out tails, so Dodoria wins.

[Rocketman]

Dodoria's bulk helps him absorb blows, so I say Dodoria wins.

[In Brightest Day]

Uub vs. Olibu.

Scenario 1: Oob from the 25th Budokai
Scenario 2: Oob after he's completed his training with Goku in the first episode of GT.

[Vice]

Pui Pui vs. Dodoria - equal power levels.

The two most incompetent fighters of the entire franchise go at it to determine who sucks even worse. Who takes it?

Since when did Yamcha lose that title?

[Kaboom]

Scenario 1: Oob from the 25th Budokai

Oob wasn't born for another 10 years after the 25th, so I'll assume you mean the 28th.

Anyway, Oob's "rage burst" gave him some impressive power, but I somehow doubt it'll let him measure up to a guy who's been training in the afterlife for several thousand years. Olivu wins.

Scenario 2: Oob after he's completed his training with Goku in the first episode of GT.

Well, it's debatable whether or not Oob had fully reached his true "Pure Boo" level of potential power yet. If he has, though, then Olivu has no chance of winning no matter how many millennia's of experience and skill he may have.

[In Brightest Day]

Pui Pui vs. Dodoria - equal power levels.

The two most incompetent fighters of the entire franchise go at it to determine who sucks even worse. Who takes it?

Since when did Yamcha lose that title?

Uh, Yamcha never had it in the first place. I can't say I've ever heard a good reason as to why he's not a great fighter, let alone incompetent. Losing to people far stronger than himself and getting sneak attacked is the reasoning of lazy, lazy people.

[Vice]

Uh, Yamcha never had it in the first place. I can't say I've ever heard a good reason as to why he's not a great fighter, let alone incompetent. Losing to people far stronger than himself and getting sneak attacked is the reasoning of lazy, lazy people.

Oh, my bad. Must have been mistaken when I recalled that Yamcha lost to a saibaman. Or that he's never won a fight in the entire series... ever. Even when his character mattered back in the beginning of Dragon Ball, at best he was the Worf, he was the guy used to showcase the Big Bad's power. Then he was the designated punching bag. Then he just ended up the series' punchline.

[In Brightest Day]

Oh, my bad. Must have been mistaken when I recalled that Yamcha lost to a saibaman.

Yamcha soundly defeated the Cultivar. It snuck up on him after he had won and blew himself up. That could have happened to anyone.

Or that he's never won a fight in the entire series... ever. Even when his character mattered back in the beginning of Dragon Ball, at best he was the Worf, he was the guy used to showcase the Big Bad's power. Then he was the designated punching bag. Then he just ended up the series' punchline.

Yamcha actually won two battles, but your whole "Yamcha is incompetent" argument is based entirely off his power in relation to his opponents. A). He was unlucky to have the opponents he was given at the Budokai's and even then he had impressive showings despite being horribly out-matched power wise, and B). Power has absolutely zero impact on how skillful a fighter is, which is something Yamcha far out-ranks your standard loser like Dodoria or Pocus in.

In Dodoria's case Yamucha most certainly out-ranks him in power at his peak, and IMO the same can be said for Pui Pui. Thats irrelevent now, though.

[Vice]

Yamcha soundly defeated the Cultivar. It snuck up on him after he had won and blew himself up. That could have happened to anyone.

Yet it didn't, it happened to Yamcha. The only guy who sucked so much Mr. Toriyama didn't even feel bothered enough to want him there past the saibamen.

Yamcha actually won two battles, but your whole "Yamcha is incompetent" argument is based entirely off his power in relation to his opponents. A). He was unlucky to have the opponents he was given at the Budokai's and even then he had impressive showings despite being horribly out-matched power wise, and B). Power has absolutely zero impact on how skillful a fighter is, which is something Yamcha far out-ranks your standard loser like Dodoria or Pocus in.

Oh yeah, Yamcha beat a weakened Goku and another guy by accident. Let's start singing his praises because he manages to barely outshine a couple of secondary characters. At any rate, what I said was meant as a joke but you seem to be taking it rather personally. I'm sorry if my joke offended you as a fan, but please learn to lighten up.

In Dodoria's case Yamucha most certainly out-ranks him in power at his peak, and IMO the same can be said for Pui Pui. Thats irrelevent now, though.

Yeah, my opinion on the matter is that Pui-Pui would stomp the hell out of Yamcha rather easily. I have Pui-Pui above Freeza based on quotes by Shin on the matter and Freeza's power is such that Yamcha would never dream to match.

[Lucas Abner]

forgot of Hatchyack vs Broly LSSJ filme 10 or Hatchyack vs Broly LSSJ filme 8

[Fox666]

Ironically, even the Daizenshuu seems to ridicularize Yamcha:

Characteristics (...) He's something of a pathetic character, always getting done-in during battles.

Budoukai (...) In other words, he lost in the first round all three times.

[Rocketman]

Ironically

"The use of words expressing something other than their literal intention"?

[Fox666]

I suppose there are multiple uses of irony. I believe this is called "situational irony", which no fan would expect a guidebook to actuall bash a important character like that. I may be wrong.

May I ask, is it really important to make a post merely to point a grammar or semantics mistake? Do you want to start some retarded Skitt’s Law game?