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Post by DanielGClapp » Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:53 am

Drayenko wrote:Trunks' arms look weird to me...
A lot of things look weird in that picture, including Trunks's arms looking extremely abnormal.

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Post by Paradox295 » Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:10 am

Vegeta's leg is twisted, and Trunks has no lower arms.

Seriously, it just goes from a muscly upper arm to a hand XD

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Post by Android 50 » Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:54 pm

They should have just used the original movie posters. lol

The re draws look older than the old posters.
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Post by Jusenkyo_Guide » Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:32 pm

Gah! how long does everyone think we'll have to wait for news confirming whether there will be a Dragon Box release for the Movies or not? I don't currently own the Movies, and can't figure out if I should just go ahead and buy these Movie Packs, or if I should wait on a possible Dragon Box release. It's not the waiting that I mind really, it's the not knowing. If I knew for certain I could easily wait, I just don't wanna wait half a year or a year or so only to find out I could have bought these now, or to still not know...

Also, if no Dragon Box for the Movies, does anyone recommend another version... are the Remastered Double-Features or Original Box Sets better than these new Packs?

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Post by The Time Traveller » Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:50 pm

Jusenkyo_Guide wrote:Also, if no Dragon Box for the Movies, does anyone recommend another version... are the Remastered Double-Features or Original Box Sets better than these new Packs?
The remastered Double Features are pretty nice, but the picture is gonna be the same as these packs anyway. And good lucking finding the Coola double feature set for cheap...

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Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:16 am

Rightstuf.com has put a listing up for DBZ Movie Collection 3. They seem to be banging these out, the first set isn't even released yet and we're already seeing a listing for the third and final set. Hey, not that I'm complaining...

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http://www.rightstuf.com/1-800-338-6827 ... 3276/4/0/0

It's to be released Janurary 3rd. But if you order it from RightStuf you could probably get this by Christmas!

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Post by DanielGClapp » Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:46 am

Well I'm definitely not complaining about this artwork! I like it, but of course, it could have been better. At least it's better than the last ones.

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Post by Metalwario64 » Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:53 am

They've all sucked (I can probably do better), but this one is just horrendous... It seriously looks like it was done in Flash or MS Paint...
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Post by DanielGClapp » Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:00 am

Metalwario64 wrote:They've all sucked (I can probably do better), but this one is just horrendous... It seriously looks like it was done in Flash or MS Paint...
It's better than the Broly one. Of course, I'm not even going to be buying these, so I don't even care! Funimation can save all of the special attention for the Dragon Box Movies :twisted:

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Post by samuraix123 » Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:11 am

Will anybody be picking up the movie pack 1? I'd really like to see if they are going to fix the cooler movie american music error :?
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Post by PuppetDoctor » Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:24 am

The cover for Movie Pack 3 is just to orange and yellow all mashed together. It makes it weird to look at although the cover did grow on me after looking at it longer.

As much as I dislike Movie 4 I think Movie Pack 1 had the best cover out of them all.

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Post by DanielGClapp » Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:29 am

PuppetDoctor wrote:The cover for Movie Pack 3 is just to orange and yellow all mashed together. It makes it weird to look at although the cover did grow on me after looking at it longer.

As much as I dislike Movie 4 I think Movie Pack 1 had the best cover out of them all.
Yes I would have to agree. The 1'st one is the best, it's just that the art is from one of my least favorite DBZ movies. It would have been nice if they had made artwork that incorporated all of the movies, but like I said, I'm holding out for DBoxes!

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Post by Soul » Thu Oct 13, 2011 5:18 am

FUNi's website has a trailer for the 1st pack: http://www.funimation.com/dragon-ball-z ... 1-5/702351

God...that footage looks like poo.

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Post by Cipher » Thu Oct 13, 2011 5:22 am

Soul wrote:FUNi's website has a trailer for the 1st pack: http://www.funimation.com/dragon-ball-z ... 1-5/702351

God...that footage looks like poo.
Pretty sure it's just compression from this streaming version.

The actual movie remasters are some of the best looking Dragon Ball footage out there.

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Post by BluezaBladeNZ » Thu Oct 13, 2011 5:36 am

lol Was it just me or was there a couple of Star Wars sound effects in that trailer?

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Post by Metalwario64 » Thu Oct 13, 2011 5:41 am

Cipher wrote:The actual movie remasters are some of the best looking Dragon Ball footage out there.
Sure, if you think "season two" was the best the series had ever looked...
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Here is the same shot from the single DVD taken from Nicktoons' website (I don't have the single yet):
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Many of the movies are "season two" bright, and all of them are oversaturated to the extreme.

I prefer the 4:3 aspect ratio, as I've mentioned in another thread recently, but even aside from that I'd truly take the singles over the Double Feature footage. It's also funny that Movie 1's UUE single looks sharper (almost Dragon Box sharp, and it's not edge enhancement) and has better colors than the Double Feature.

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UUE Single
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You can see that the colors are so bright on the Double Feature that Goku's face is pure white, the darkest shade on his skin looks like it's a glowing red, and the lighter shading on Piccolo's turban and cape is almost entirely obliterated.

[EDIT] Here are some more shots:

Double Feature:
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(What happened to the clouds?)

Single:
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Double Feature:
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(Blue rocks?)

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(Another frame I think looks much better in 4x3, whereas the 16x9 version looks season set cramped.

Another large problem with the Double Features' footage is that they often boost blue so much that the skin colors start looking blue as you can see in the above shots.
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Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Thu Oct 13, 2011 5:48 am

:shock: I can access the DBZ website again! I really like how they're marketing these as nostalgia rather than "new hotness!", especially since I use to always watch the movies on Toonami.

Random thought: Are these meant to replace the singles they were gonna put out but stopped after the TV specials.

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Post by Cipher » Thu Oct 13, 2011 6:44 am

I'm not going to respond to every one of the above images, but a lot of them look brighter than I've seen before. (Although movies three and four are the only two I haven't seen the double-feature versions of, so perhaps they are actually particularly bad? If so, how about screen capping any of the other ones?) At the very least, that's something easily fixable by adjusting a brightness setting, not at all comparable to Season Two's completely washed out palette. The colors are still distinct.

The amount of credibility you lose comparing Movie Six's Namek to the whitewashed landscape of Season Two at all is ridiculous, actually. I defy anyone to watch both and find any similarities in terms of their overall palette or image quality. I don't think you'll find anyone on here to back you up on that.

That and, for every image you posted, there are plenty of problems with the older 4:3 versions. Sometimes its rainbowing on Goku's neck lines or Vegeta's forehead scrape. Sometimes it's the fact that colors are washed out and bleeding all over (Yamcha). The Goku and Piccolo one looks fairly good, I'll grant you, but as with people comparing the GT singles to the equivalent Dragon Box, there's just no accounting for how poor it looks in motion. (Also, and this actually surprised me due to the slight blurring effects of DVNR, the lines in the shot of Kuririn, Bulma and Kame-Sennin are actually more defined in the remastered version. Just look at Kuririn's shirt and arm muscles, and Bulma's hair. I'm not sure if this speaks more to the remastered version being decent, or the old 4:3 just being too soft and awful looking. Probably the latter, actually. Were you not going to comment on Kuririn's skin color bleeding right out onto the sky next to his head?)

It also doesn't seem worth commenting on bluish-gray rocks or (almost non-existent?) blues in skin tones, when the only other comparably good-looking release has well-documented and far more pervasive problems with its red levels.

Like it or not, FUNimation's remastered movies are as good as it gets as far as grain-reduced releases for this series go. There's nothing identifiably wrong with the visuals. Whereas the season sets, even for Dragon Ball and GT, are almost objectively worse than their Dragon Box counterparts, with the movies, it really boils down to a matter of what your personal philosophy is on grain-removal. If you're down with it, the movie remasters are pretty much top of the line, just slightly below Kai.

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Post by Metalwario64 » Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:13 am

Cipher wrote:I'm not going to respond to every one of the above images, but a lot of them look brighter than I've seen before. At the very least, that's something easily fixable by adjusting a brightness setting, not at all comparable to Season Two's completely washed out palette. The colors are still distinct.

The amount of credibility you lose comparing Movie Six's Namek to the whitewashed landscape of Season Two at all is ridiculous, actually. I defy anyone to watch both and find any similarities in terms of their overall palette or image quality. I don't think you'll find anyone on here to back you up on that.
What? Don't tell me you can't see the pale, light blue color Namek's sky has on that Movie 6 shot. What about the pure white skin color and the pure white hair highlights, the latter of which is supposed to be noticeably darker than the lightest skin color, but due to the over brightening is made just as bright? What about the completely removed lighter level of shading from their skin?

Darkening the image can't bring back the lost color detail:
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Here's the single for comparison again:
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Not only that, but getting the skin tones to look even halfway presentable as above requires individually editing RGB values, which not all TVs allow you to do.
Cipher wrote:That and, for every image you posted, there are plenty of problems with the older 4:3 versions. Sometimes its rainbowing on Goku's neck lines. Sometimes it's the fact that colors are washed out and bleeding all over (Yamcha). The Goku and Piccolo one looks fairly good, I'll grant you, but as with people comparing the GT singles to the equivalent Dragon Box, there's just no accounting for how poor it looks in motion. (Also, and this actually surprised me due to the slight blurring effects of DVNR, the lines in the shot of Kuririn, Bulma and Kame-Sennin are actually more defined in the remastered version. Just look at Kuririn's shirt and arm muscles, and Bulma's hair. I'm not sure if this speaks more to the remastered version being decent, or the old 4:3 just being too soft and awful looking.)
Anyone can see that the singles have inferior encoding. I'm not arguing against that. I'm arguing that despite that, they don't hurt my eyes and don't have entire visual details completely obliterated like the Double Features do.
Cipher wrote:It also doesn't seem worth commenting on bluish-gray rocks or blues in skin tones (which I hardly even see in those shots; there're some really rich pinks and tans in this line's skin tones), when the only other comparably good-looking release has well-documented and far more pervasive problems with its red levels.
Double Feature:
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Dragon Box:
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Yeah, the skin often looks like a light lavender color. To me, that's worse than the sometimes pinkish skin tones the Dragon Boxes have (especially when the skin isn't pink on the Dragon Box like the above shot).
Cipher wrote:Like it or not, FUNimation's remastered movies are as good as it gets as far as grain-reduced releases for this series go. There's nothing identifiably wrong with the visuals.
Yes, completely removed shading levels is a huge problem with the visuals, and is even more destructive than the grain removal. They also have unbalanced RGB levels.

It's all opinion. If you don't care about the image looking flatter by having less shading, you are welcome to that mindset. I prefer the image to be tampered with as little as possible.
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