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Re: DBZ: Ultimate Blast/Tenkaichi (Pre-Release Discussion)

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:25 pm

InfernalVegito wrote:For me Yixinglong was the first villain that even I, the audience, feared. They way he was unpredictable and truly malevolent made him my favorite villain of all DB series.
Yeah, Yi Xing Long and the rest of the Evil Dragons are my favorites, they had original designs and powers(OK, some powers were used in weaker versions by some movie villain henchmen,but whatever) and then Yi Xing Long took all those powers, he wasn't just a super villain who blow up planets with his super battle power and each time upgrated regeneration, he could also regenerate, but he could control wind, fire, ice, earth, electricity, and weaken his enemies with water polution(he didn't use this, but he could do it), and the minus energy he left in Earth that could destroy the whole universe... he was the ultimate villain!
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by Li'l Lemmy » Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:41 pm

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And here I was this close to proclaiming you as my new god. Now suddenly I'm stuck shopping for religions all over again.
cloud1414 wrote:Well its like the trailer from the TGS, it showed goten and trunks. It even showed mr satan. now how could you have them in the cut scenes but not in the game? It doesn't make sense to me at all. Another reason why I think the roster is false.
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Post by NECPS » Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:58 pm

Well Dragonball with wind, fire, ice, earth, electricity is a little of a cliche huh?
Even Saint Seiya is not that simple.

I can´t say. Never saw DB GT more than once or twice.

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Post by Thanos » Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:56 pm

MCDaveG wrote:Yi Shenlong was the first character, who wanted willingly to destroy the Earth only because. Cell wanted to destroy planets one by one to challenge the strongest in universe, Buu did it to destroy Goku and Vegeta...... Yi Shenlong wanted to destroy universe as his prime will and didn't care about anything.
That was the most menacing fight in the whole series for me, when I saw it in the run on TV.
I'm pretty sure Kid Buu wanted to destroy existence. Same with Broli.

Although, I will grant that he was the first villain of that caliber who was intelligent.
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Post by Sinestro » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:17 pm

Rory wrote:
Sinestro wrote:I know I'm in the minority in this, but every game after Sparking Meteor feels like a letdown to me.
I'm pretty sure you're not alone there, at all.
Maybe I should have re-worded that. For me, I feel that Sparking Meteor was the ultimate Dragon Ball game. But I know many feel the video game franchise had started going downhill at other points before that. I guess I could be wrong, but I thought us Meteorites were in the minority as far as that's concerned.

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Post by Saimaroimaru » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:32 pm

The problem is that they bloated the character list by splitting the same character into 3 different forms. Its cool an all to have 3 different DBZ Gokus not to mention the Gt and Db forms. I wonder how much would BT3 Character list would go down if we removed the excess saga split forms. Probably not much.

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Post by Thanos » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:39 pm

Sinestro wrote:
Rory wrote:
Sinestro wrote:I know I'm in the minority in this, but every game after Sparking Meteor feels like a letdown to me.
I'm pretty sure you're not alone there, at all.
Maybe I should have re-worded that. For me, I feel that Sparking Meteor was the ultimate Dragon Ball game. But I know many feel the video game franchise had started going downhill at other points before that. I guess I could be wrong, but I thought us Meteorites were in the minority as far as that's concerned.

(My number two game? Budokai 3.)
I'm definitely a Meteorite. That game was/is so good and is the only Dragon Ball game I've ever played (over fifty and counting) consistently since release.

I'm quite puzzled why this game was advertised as a return to the "Tenkaichi" style, when it's nothing like Sparking! or Raging Blast. That was probably an oversight/error on the American publishers (considering the game uses 'Blast' instead of 'Tenkaichi' in Japan), but it seems stupid and a huge letdown.
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Post by Saimaroimaru » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:51 pm

Thanos wrote:
I'm definitely a Meteorite. That game was/is so good and is the only Dragon Ball game I've ever played (over fifty and counting) consistently since release.

I'm quite puzzled why this game was advertised as a return to the "Tenkaichi" style, when it's nothing like Sparking! or Raging Blast. That was probably an oversight/error on the American publishers (considering the game uses 'Blast' instead of 'Tenkaichi' in Japan), but it seems stupid and a huge letdown.
It more of a fusion between Raging Blast and Budokai with the QTE's

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:04 pm

Saimaroimaru wrote:The problem is that they bloated the character list by splitting the same character into 3 different forms. Its cool an all to have 3 different DBZ Gokus not to mention the Gt and Db forms. I wonder how much would BT3 Character list would go down if we removed the excess saga split forms. Probably not much.
I dunno, it'd be cut down by quite a bit though. I honestly think they didn't make good use of their UT/UB roster slots. Even using the base 41, they could have easily made pretty much everyone happy had Spike or Namdai (whoever was pulling the roster strings) just used their head. Without removing a single character they added, here's a 41 base list I'd have been happy with:

1. Son Goku (Base, SS, SS2, SS3, SS4) - Gogeta (SS, SS4) - Vegetto (Base, SS)
2. Vegeta (Base, SS, SSg2, Demon Prince, SS2, SS4) - Gogeta (SS, SS4) - Vegetto (Base, SS)
3. Kid Son Gohan
4. Preteen Son Gohan (Base, SS, SS2)
5. Teen Son Gohan (Base, SS, SS2, Ultimate)
6. Future Trunks (Base, SS, SSg3)
7. Goten (Base, SS) - Gotenks (Base, SS, SS3)
8. Trunks (Base, SS) - Gotenks (Base, SS, SS3)
9. Piccolo
10. Kuririn
11. Tenshinhan
12. Yamcha
13. Chaozu
14. Bardock (Base, SS)
15. Saibaimen
16. Raditz
17. Nappa
18. Kyui
19. Dodoria
20. Zarbon (Base, Transformed)
21. Gurd
22. Reacoom
23. Butta
24. Jheese
25. Ginyu
26. Freeza (1st, 2nd, 3rd, Final, 100%)
27. Jinzoningen 16
28. Jinzoningen 17 (Base, Super)
29. Jinzoningen 18
30. Jinzoningen 19
31. Jinzoningen 20
32. Cell (Imperfect, Semiperfect, Perfect, Super Perfect)
33. Cell Jr.
34. Majin Buu (Fat)
35. Majin Buu (Evil, Gotenks Absorbed, Gohan Absorbed)
36. Majin Buu (Pure/Kid)
37. Chilled
38. Broli (Base, SS, "LSS")
39. Janenba (Transformed)
40. Bebi Vegeta (Base, Super, Super 2)
41. Yi Xing Long (Base, Super)

42. Lite Avatar (Base, SS)
43. Regular Avatar (Base, SS)
44. Heavy Avatar (Base, SS)
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Post by InfernalVegito » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:18 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote: 2. Vegeta (...Demon Prince...)
What is "Demon Prince"? SSJ2 or Majin Vegeta?
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:24 pm

InfernalVegito wrote:What is "Demon Prince"? SSJ2 or Majin Vegeta?
"Majin", I forgot to throw SS2 on the list because I couldn't decide if I wanted it before or after Demon Prince (pointless I know lol)... *Fixed*
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Post by Furu » Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:30 am

This roster is astoundingly dumb. No Goten, Kid Trunks, Videl, or many other characters of importance but Cui makes it in and three Vegetas? You couldn't cut him or merge the Vegetas or maybe just examine your priorities a bit, Spike? Wow. My interest in this game is just completely shot.
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Post by samuraix123 » Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:44 am

So I was thinking while watching character creator, How awesome would it be if you and your friend could play on the same team vs the other team. And you two could fuse your created characters, And they would become a single being like some kinda new bad ass character. I think that would be awesome :D Even though it will never happen. it would still be cool. Also when it comes to two people fighting with one character. Just have a time limit set to each player that way both can fight with him instead of one.

What do you guy's think about that?

Also I hope in this game they do something awesome with yamcha's wolf fang fist. Like in the jump special or the 10th anniversary dragonball movie the path to power
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Post by Saimaroimaru » Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:37 am

samuraix123 wrote:So I was thinking while watching character creator, How awesome would it be if you and your friend could play on the same team vs the other team. And you two could fuse your created characters, And they would become a single being like some kinda new bad ass character. I think that would be awesome :D Even though it will never happen. it would still be cool. Also when it comes to two people fighting with one character. Just have a time limit set to each player that way both can fight with him instead of one.

What do you guy's think about that?

Also I hope in this game they do something awesome with yamcha's wolf fang fist. Like in the jump special or the 10th anniversary dragonball movie the path to power
It unpractical. There was a similar conversation awhile ago with DBO. If anything, let players fuse their characters through some feature, and it turns into a transformation and treated as such but the fusion sequence would still play when activated in battle. As for what the fusion would look like depending on the method the looks would be randomized based on what used to create each character and can be refused/redone to get whatever mixed you want till you are satisfied. The fusion vest for fusion dance with the color of the vest customizable and a random mix of clothes and color if the potara fusion was used. Each player gets their own copy to name and edit.

Just a idea.

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TheDevilsCorpse wrote: 1. Son Goku (Base, SS, SS2, SS3, SS4) - Gogeta (SS, SS4) - Vegetto (Base, SS)
2. Vegeta (Base, SS, SSg2, Demon Prince, SS2, SS4) - Gogeta (SS, SS4) - Vegetto (Base, SS)
3. Kid Son Gohan
4. Preteen Son Gohan (Base, SS, SS2)
5. Teen Son Gohan (Base, SS, SS2, Ultimate)
6. Future Trunks (Base, SS, SSg3)
7. Goten (Base, SS) - Gotenks (Base, SS, SS3)
8. Trunks (Base, SS) - Gotenks (Base, SS, SS3)
9. Piccolo
10. Kuririn
11. Tenshinhan
12. Yamcha
13. Chaozu
14. Bardock (Base, SS)
15. Saibaimen
16. Raditz
17. Nappa
18. Kyui
19. Dodoria
20. Zarbon (Base, Transformed)
21. Gurd
22. Reacoom
23. Butta
24. Jheese
25. Ginyu
26. Freeza (1st, 2nd, 3rd, Final, 100%)
27. Jinzoningen 16
28. Jinzoningen 17 (Base, Super)
29. Jinzoningen 18
30. Jinzoningen 19
31. Jinzoningen 20
32. Cell (Imperfect, Semiperfect, Perfect, Super Perfect)
33. Cell Jr.
34. Majin Buu (Fat)
35. Majin Buu (Evil, Gotenks Absorbed, Gohan Absorbed)
36. Majin Buu (Pure/Kid)
37. Chilled
38. Broli (Base, SS, "LSS")
39. Janenba (Transformed)
40. Bebi Vegeta (Base, Super, Super 2)
41. Yi Xing Long (Base, Super)

42. Lite Avatar (Base, SS)
43. Regular Avatar (Base, SS)
44. Heavy Avatar (Base, SS)
Oh God, I would love this roster! Too bad it's not like that... :cry:
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:39 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Oh God, I would love this roster! Too bad it's not like that... :cry:
It's not perfect, but I'd be happy enough to tolerate it and buy the game. At the very least, I'd have liked to squeeze in Future Gohan (Base and SS), Mecha Freeza, Dabra, Tullece, Coola (Final and Transformed), Mecha Coola, Pan, Uub (Base and Super), San Xing Long and Si Xing Long as well...but it wasn't possible, of course. lol
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:53 am

Of course it's not perfect, but at least this rooster would make me happy. :D
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by VegettoEX » Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:23 am

Because I keep seeing it over and over...

A "rooster" is a winged animal that cuckoos in the morning to wake you up on a fine bright-and-early morning to go tend to the cows and farm land. A "roster" is a collection or lineup, usually of people.

Guess which one you mean to write here :).
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:35 am

VegettoEX wrote:A "rooster" is a winged animal that cuckoos in the morning to wake you up on a fine bright-and-early morning to go tend to the cows and farm land. A "roster" is a collection or lineup, usually of people.
Roosters "crow", "cluck" and "cock-a'doodle-doo", Cuckoos "coo" and "cuckoo". :P
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Post by VegettoEX » Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:50 am

It was the greatest derailment ever, at least.

I appreciate it.

And now we return to our regularly-scheduled endless speculation about a video game.
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