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DanielGClapp
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by DanielGClapp » Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:26 pm
Dizrythmia wrote:Kakarot's father and God have a long lasting fend between them. Kakarot promised that when he grew up he will turn earth into a demon paradise.
Therefore, he gathered the 7 dragonballs to give him eternal life but 4 of the dragonballs are on Gohan hat. Therefore he kidnapped gohan and when Goku came to know of this, he rush to rescue his son and also to prevent Kakarot plan of turning earth into a demon's paradise. How will Goku rescue his and can he defeat the eternal life Kakarot?
Haha oh my! I sure hope Goku defeats the eternal life Kakarot so the Earth doesn't turn into a demon paradise! lol
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by KiddoCabbusses » Wed Oct 12, 2011 5:23 pm
Blacknite08 wrote:Well I'm willing to buy some of them because I'm curious as to what Malaysian English Krillin's singing and Gogeta sound like. Plus I have a capture card, so I can share some short clips on Youtube.
A capture card would be unneeded time and effort and a pointless sacrifice in quality. These are VCDs. It'd be best to load it directly into a computer and use a CD Image dumper like Imgburn to dump the disk image. Since it's basically all MPEG video, this should load up easily in video editing applications.
As for Krillin and Gogeta, I still have rips of Movie 6 and 12 lying around. They try to do the 'fused voice" effect for Gogeta, but.... well, since those two voices aren't very good to begin with...
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by Harry von Kuegelgen » Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:01 pm
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:At any rate, they're not native speakers.
This idea has persisted for a long time and I'm not sure why, but none of the actors speak as though English is a second language to them. The script is as unnatural and Speed Racer-y as can be, sure, but most of them have absolutely flawless American accents so I don't see how people can say that.
Kind of arbitrary, though; it's still funny, either way.
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by Blacknite08 » Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:33 pm
KiddoCabbusses wrote:Blacknite08 wrote:Well I'm willing to buy some of them because I'm curious as to what Malaysian English Krillin's singing and Gogeta sound like. Plus I have a capture card, so I can share some short clips on Youtube.
A capture card would be unneeded time and effort and a pointless sacrifice in quality. These are VCDs. It'd be best to load it directly into a computer and use a CD Image dumper like Imgburn to dump the disk image. Since it's basically all MPEG video, this should load up easily in video editing applications.
I guess recording the whole movie would take longer than ripping it but I don't plan to do that. I'd just record the parts I wanted to upload. Also my capture card records everything into 720x480 .mpg files which I can use in Sony Vegas, so it wouldn't take that much effort. I thought VCDs were much harder to rip than DVDs anyway.
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by KiddoCabbusses » Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:19 pm
Are you sure you're not confusing VCD with Laserdisc or VHS or something?
DVDs have encryption which need to be circumvented. VCDs, particularly these Speedy VCDs, are no more difficult to rip as a standard music CD.
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by Blacknite08 » Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:30 pm
Bah. I just found out that site doesn't work. If you click "pay with credit card", it says server error. At least that happens before it asks you to put in your info instead of after. I guess that explains why few people have those VCDs.
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Blacknite08
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by Blacknite08 » Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:42 pm
Nope. Neither of those sites work. The second link you posted is pretty much the same as the site I posted just with a different look.
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by atm5508 » Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:48 am
Blacknite08 wrote:The Speedy dub is the Malaysian English dub.
Sorry, I was mixing it up with one of the Filipino dubs for some reason.
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Piccolo Daimaoh
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by Piccolo Daimaoh » Fri Oct 14, 2011 2:50 am
Harry von Kuegelgen wrote:Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:At any rate, they're not native speakers.
This idea has persisted for a long time and I'm not sure why, but none of the actors speak as though English is a second language to them. The script is as unnatural and Speed Racer-y as can be, sure, but most of them have absolutely flawless American accents so I don't see how people can say that.
Kind of arbitrary, though; it's still funny, either way.
Firstly, American accents aren't particularly hard to do. Secondly, I said that they're not native speakers because their delivery is very wooden, with words occasionally being mispronounced.
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by TheBlackPaladin » Fri Oct 14, 2011 2:55 am
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:Harry von Kuegelgen wrote:Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:At any rate, they're not native speakers.
This idea has persisted for a long time and I'm not sure why, but none of the actors speak as though English is a second language to them. The script is as unnatural and Speed Racer-y as can be, sure, but most of them have absolutely flawless American accents so I don't see how people can say that.
Kind of arbitrary, though; it's still funny, either way.
Secondly, I said that they're not native speakers because their delivery is very wooden, with words occasionally being mispronounced.
That could be the director's or the writer's fault, though.
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by Piccolo Daimaoh » Fri Oct 14, 2011 3:26 am
TheBlackPaladin wrote:
That could be the director's or the writer's fault, though.
That's true, but I stand by my assertion that they're probably non-native speakers.
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by Harry von Kuegelgen » Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:01 pm
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:
Firstly, American accents aren't particularly hard to do. Secondly, I said that they're not native speakers because their delivery is very wooden, with words occasionally being mispronounced.
I'd probably chalk that up more to the dubbers not being professional actors and only doing one take for each line, but then there's probably no way for us to know for sure.
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by KiddoCabbusses » Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:23 pm
Blacknite08 wrote:Bah. I just found out that site doesn't work. If you click "pay with credit card", it says server error. At least that happens before it asks you to put in your info instead of after. I guess that explains why few people have those VCDs.
Sorry for the bump, but I just wanted to say that it appears I can get through with my Paypal account.
Does anyone want to request me purchasing a specific DBZ VCD in particular? I'm leaning towards Movies 1, 5, and 13.
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by Pokewhiz7 » Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:18 pm
KiddoCabbusses wrote:Blacknite08 wrote:Bah. I just found out that site doesn't work. If you click "pay with credit card", it says server error. At least that happens before it asks you to put in your info instead of after. I guess that explains why few people have those VCDs.
Sorry for the bump, but I just wanted to say that it appears I can get through with my Paypal account.
Does anyone want to request me purchasing a specific DBZ VCD in particular? I'm leaning towards Movies 1, 5, and 13.
Movie 1.
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by penguintruth » Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:45 pm
KiddoCabbusses wrote:
While FUNi's English dub is well-known and various European-language dubs have had more or less complete DVD releases, many of the other DBZ dubs are really hard to find. For example, I'm still trying to get all the Speedy VCDs and the Filipino-English "The Greatest Rivals" set, even though those had commercial releases in older video formats (VCD and VHS respectively). I can't find diddly squat on the Filipino-English early TV series.
All I know is Nesty Ramirez is Goku and Ethel Lizano is Gohan.
I have a copy of movie 5 on a VHS tape, but my VCR is broken. I'd love to get my hands on movie 6.
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.
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by KiddoCabbusses » Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:17 pm
penguintruth wrote:All I know is Nesty Ramirez is Goku and Ethel Lizano is Gohan.
I have a copy of movie 5 on a VHS tape, but my VCR is broken. I'd love to get my hands on movie 6.
Kinda strange to hear you got only movie 5 since on the VHS tape I used to have that was lost, it seemed both movie 5 and 6 were dubbed and crudely combined into one single viewing. (With the "You are the Hero" Credits montage containing a large chunk of Movie 5 footage.)
Any more details about the VHS tape? I'm interested. I got not only a VCR but a decent DVD Recorder setup so I can make a copy and take screenshots a la VHS Makafushigi Daibouken.
Pokewhiz7 wrote:Movie 1.
Hahahah. As I thought. Man, if the accuracy of the dub is as bad as the description makes it look it could very well be comedy gold. What other ones, maybe? Hrmmmm....
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by penguintruth » Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:23 pm
Well the tape I had only had movie 5. I used to enjoy watching it now and then for its weird English dub. I can't recall where I bought it, but it was from some online fansub seller ages ago. It's a copy of a copy, I think. Just a regular VHS tape, no trimmings. I don't believe I paid much for it. I've seen that dub of movie 5 passed around on the internet, but never movie 6. At least, not anymore.
It's frustrating because I can't add that dub's Vegeta to my voice charts because I don't know what he sounds like.
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.
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by KiddoCabbusses » Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:28 pm
penguintruth wrote:It's frustrating because I can't add that dub's Vegeta to my voice charts because I don't know what he sounds like.
He sounded a bit like a deeper, more sinister-sounding Goku from hwat I remember. Of course, you don't hear his "normal" voice for long - he goes Super Saiyan right away, causing the same voice effect that it does in movie 5.
