Why is the Replacement Score so Limited?

[kei17]

I recently noticed that there were some people doing the musical placement besides Nagasaki. They're listed in the ending credits on the Kai-Kikuchi mix DVD/BD releases.

Musical Placement: Hideyuki Tanaka


*I posted this once but it doesn't show up at all, so I did once again. Sorry if this is a double-posting.*

[kei17]

Since Fuji TV TWO was free for a day, I recorded Kai episodes.

Kaioken Times 20 (Official Musical Placement)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJMB2BwB2OM

What a disappointment.

[JulieYBM]

Since Fuji TV TWO was free for a day, I recorded Kai episodes.

Kaioken Times 20 (Official Musical Placement)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJMB2BwB2OM

What a disappointment.

The music mix for the second piece was too quiet. I think the first piece could have been cut off a bit sooner than it was, too.

[coola]

That`s it, these guys, Hideyuki Tanaka and Nagasaki really got talent, not only they killed Dragon Ball Kai, but they made Kikuchi score look bad, i will be sure to not touch any anime where they got involved

[kei17]

That`s it, these guys, Hideyuki Tanaka and Nagasaki really got talent, not only they killed Dragon Ball Kai, but they made Kikuchi score look bad, i will be sure to not touch any anime where they got involved

Hideyuki Tanaka is the one who placed the score in the original TV series of Hokuto No Ken and he's usually good. A person who has never been involved in the DB franchise suddenly got hired to immediately place the pieces of music which are very limited.. I can't blame him. In addition, episodes done by Tanaka generally aren't that bad. The real poorly-done episodes are those which done by Satoshi Motoyama.

[SolarBlade52]

I think the replacement score is limited because it's cheaper I guess? I mean there are stereo tracks of movies 3, 11, 12 and 13, but they can't use them because it's cheaper to not get the rights to them. IDK, but that's my theory. Columbia is cheaper than Toei. This is the reason why most of the soundtracks they release have a very small selection of music. My other theory is that they have plenty of money to remaster soundtracks, they just don't want to do it. That's being cheap.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

Just wondering, have all of the stereo pieces been utilized between as of now?

[kei17]

Just wondering, have all of the stereo pieces been utilized between as of now?

As far as I know, they have been using only 64 out of 91 pieces and one mono piece. Almost nothing has changed.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

Wow, that's interesting. How come they're using a mono piece?

[kei17]

Wow, that's interesting. How come they're using a mono piece?

The only mono piece they have been using is M1801, which is actually available in stereo on the individual Movie 10 soundtrack CD. It is pretty ridiculous that they are meaninglessly using the mono mixed version on DBZ BGM collection. Even if they don't know the existence of the stereo mixed version, it is incomprehensible that they are using it instead of the millions of other famous mono pieces.

[JulieYBM]

Man, I wish Toei would put some money into better maintaining the music, at least. I'd hate to think of the composition notes being lost and new recordings of the music become an impossibility.

[kei17]

I watched episode 82 and surprisingly, M920, one of Piccolo's themes, plays in it though it's in mono. I've never heard it in any other episodes. I don't understand what they are thinking. Are they just lazy enough not to organise which they have access to? I can't stand their incompetence, seriously. Maybe I'd better not listen to the Kikuchi-Kai mix anymore, but the fanboyness inside me forces me to do.

[xXInfinite026Xx]

I watched episode 82 and surprisingly, M920, one of Piccolo's themes, plays in it though it's in mono. I've never heard it in any other episodes.

I too thought that Piccolo's theme was surprising to hear when I gave my thoughts on the Nicktoons Broadcast Thread. To me though (even if slightly misplaced) it was a welcome surprise to have something else besides the "usual" Kikuchi tracks they always seem to use. However, I did hear Piccolo's theme in only one previous episode.

I still have a recorded Toonzai version of episode 36 "[Freeza] closes in! Mighty Porunga grant out wish!" and honestly that has to be the most diverse episode of Kai I ever hear, in terms of music placement. I don't know what it is about that episode in particular, but I've been meaning to talk/ask about it for quite some time now. Let me just list the music tracks really quick.

After the title card, the episode begins by using:

- M818 - Garlic Jr. Falls Into The Dead Zone [DBZ Movie 1]
- M742 – Horns And Drums (transitions in the middle of M818)
- M735 - Snake Way
- M920 - Fighting The Possessed Piccolo [DBZ Movie 2]
- M1307 - Piccolo Tears Apart The Cyclo-Bots [DBZ Movie 6]
- M2021 - The Need to Fuse [DBZ Movie 12]
- M1824 - Goku's Father-Son Victory [DBZ Movie 10] (also used nicely as a transition to Kami's temple)
- M806 - Garlic Jr. Summons Shenlong [DBZ Movie 1]
- M1023 - Haunting Chorus (The World is Healed) [DBZ Movie 3]
- M1314 - Coola's Multiplicity [DBZ Movie 6]
- M1525 - The Tragic Battle [DBZ Movie 8]

As I said, it's quite a variety of tracks that they've played in this episode, which to me was a great thing! I mean, aside from scaling the full spectrum of Kikuchi's BGM, It actually felt like a DBZ episode with an accurate dub! Although it makes me wonder who was in charge of the music arrangement for episode 36. Was it one of the regulars who arranges them? I also wonder if it's only a one time thing to have a variety like this, since the episodes before/after this one seems back to being limited again. I'm aware that they had a few Movie 3 pieces removed from earlier broadcasts for reasons I'm forgetting, but it makes me wonder if they'd do the same once this episode broadcasts again. I'd really curious to know.

[kei17]

However, I did hear Piccolo's theme in only one previous episode.

Really? I don't hear it in episode 81.

After the title card, the episode begins by using:

*snips*

Interesting. The same thing happened to the Japanese version as well. The rerun on TV Shizuoka which began just after Yamamoto's scandal had the same wide choice, but the pieces from movie 3, 11 and 12 and most of the mono pieces got replaced immediately after that.

[xXInfinite026Xx]

Really? I don't hear it in episode 81.

My fault, let me make that more clear. I meant to say the the only previous episode I heard M920 in was episode 37, the one I talked about.

Interesting. The same thing happened to the Japanese version as well. The rerun on TV Shizuoka which began just after Yamamoto's scandal had the same wide choice, but the pieces from movie 3, 11 and 12 and most of the mono pieces got replaced immediately after that.

Oh I see, then it must have been a result of them not replacing those pieces just yet. I wonder if future airings of that episode will replace the pieces from movies 3 and 12? I'd say it's highly likely since it's happened to other episodes just like it.

[SolarBlade52]

It is like I mention earlier:
I don't think they are putting the money they already have into all of the released tracks. That's pretty cheap of them.