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Re: IGN review of Ultimate Tenkaichi:

Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:23 pm

Gamespot has not reviewed the game yet, knowing Gamespot then the rating will likely be lower. Gamespot and IGN always give out different ratings since Gamespot liked God Hand and IGN hated it. IGN liked the new AVP game and Gamespot didn't like it at all.
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Re: IGN review of Ultimate Tenkaichi:

Post by VegettoEX » Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:05 pm

I'd just add that there's no collective entity named "IGN" or "GameSpot" that reviews these games. It's up to the individual reviewer, who can (and likely will) change from game to game to game in the series. Hell, the same reviewer may work for one site and review it one year, and work for an entirely different site the next year.

NONE of those sites do a decent job (if they aim to, anyway) of creating a single "voice" for their sites, so you can't just say "IGN doesn't like DBZ games" or even "IGN likes DBZ games", since different reviewers within the same sites have given vastly different takes on what we consider the "better" games in the franchise.
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Re: IGN review of Ultimate Tenkaichi:

Post by Super Saiyajin Luffy » Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:26 am

The review's score may be probably undeserved, but the review itself was fine. The content of the game is better than RB2 (not roster), graphics are one of the best, but the reviewer also said, that the combat can be repetitive due to QTE ect.

I'm more curious about VegettoEX's review now :P
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Re: IGN review of Ultimate Tenkaichi:

Post by Ahiru77 » Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:41 am

Just saw this:

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Dam, they just want to ruin the winning streak by rating even worse than RB2.

Even Goku is upset. :(

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Re: IGN review of Ultimate Tenkaichi:

Post by Adamant » Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:50 pm

Ahiru77 wrote:Just saw this:

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Dam, they just want to ruin the winning streak by rating even worse than RB2.

Even Goku is upset. :(
"Looks exciting, but is actually really dull, and is thus a poor game"... yeah, that sounds about right.
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Re: IGN review of Ultimate Tenkaichi:

Post by BlazingFiddlesticks » Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:09 pm

Ahiru77 wrote:Just saw this:

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Dam, they just want to ruin the winning streak by rating even worse than RB2.

Even Goku is upset. :(
The problem with Gamespot is that they gave Tenkaichi 2 (Wii version, at least) a 5.5/, and Infinite World a 3/10, neither of which makes sense (Shin Budokai's physics should at least bump the score another point). I can't trust their judgement on Dragon Ball games anyone if other critics don't verify it.
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Re: IGN review of Ultimate Tenkaichi:

Post by VegettoEX » Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:55 pm

BlazingFiddlesticks wrote:The problem with Gamespot is that they gave Tenkaichi 2 (Wii version, at least) a 5.5/, and Infinite World a 3/10, neither of which makes sense (Shin Budokai's physics should at least bump the score another point). I can't trust their judgement on Dragon Ball games anyone if other critics don't verify it.
Nothing you say here makes any sense.

For GameSpot, Ryan Davis reviewed both the PS2 version and the Wii version of "Tenkaichi 2", but "Infinite World" was reviewed by Anthony Perez. Two different games, two different consoles, two different reviewers. What exactly are you looking for in consistency here? Are you actually thinking about this from a critical perspective, or just an emotional one?

If a game gets the same "score" across every reviewer and outlet, why on Earth would there be a need for different opinions? The whole POINT of there being different outlets is for there to be a multitude of takes on products out there.

If you're going to just bitch about your own position not being justified by whatever particular outlet you're frustrated with, you should not be reading video game reviews on the Internet. Or any text. Anywhere. Ever. At all.
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Re: IGN review of Ultimate Tenkaichi:

Post by BlazingFiddlesticks » Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:15 pm

VegettoEX wrote: If a game gets the same "score" across every reviewer and outlet, why on Earth would there be a need for different opinions? The whole POINT of there being different outlets is for there to be a multitude of takes on products out there.

If you're going to just bitch about your own position not being justified by whatever particular outlet you're frustrated with, you should not be reading video game reviews on the Internet. Or any text. Anywhere. Ever. At all.
Two underwhelming scores and my self-esteem as a gamer is tied to commercial reviews, particularly from a website I haven't actually read a review from in several years? A bit odd then I enjoyed Custom Robo and Tales of Symphonia 2, both of which scored lower than Tenkaichi 2. Nor did I really see any particularly inflammatory language in my post aside from no longer trusting their reviews, which it turns out was a rather hasty comment anyway.

Your points are all correct, so I did some fact checking, and it turns out I was wrong in both regards to Tenkaichi 2's score (6.5, not 5.5), and their rankings of most of the other last-decade DBZ games. New reviewer? My mistake, haven't been to Gamespot in years (IW was probably one of the last reviews I did read there, only it wasn't the reason I stopped going, I had just found several better sites). That, and they're the only game site I know that puts their reviewers names at the bottom of the review, which threw me off.
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Re: IGN review of Ultimate Tenkaichi:

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:30 pm

I'm surprise by Gamespot's review of the game? I think people should just play it with a open mind and judge it themselves. Games like God Hand and the new Splatterhouse game got shitty reviews but I play them with a open mind and love them. Same with recent movies like Green Lantern and Drive Angry.

I think I agree with IGN's review then Gamespot's review since I think 7.5/10 is a right rating for this game.
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Re: IGN review of Ultimate Tenkaichi:

Post by funrush » Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:43 pm

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mysticboy wrote:I bet Xplay will give it a 3.
X-play's still relevant?
Yes, actually. They may not be as high authority as they were before, but they still air every week, and still review the new games.

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Re: IGN review of Ultimate Tenkaichi:

Post by Saimaroimaru » Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:27 pm

AgitoZ wrote:
mysticboy wrote:I bet Xplay will give it a 3.
X-play's still relevant?
Seeing as they have a monopoly on tv shows with a video game focus, they are pretty relevant those who watch them. I don't let scores and reviews decide whether not I play a game. If I let others opinion decide whether or not I buy something then I will have never bought anything at all as there are people of opposite opinions on everything. I play games with an open mind and based on my tastes not others. For example at my game stop anime/manga games are looked at with disdain. If they had their person views put into a score I know DBZ and Naruto games would get bottom score. At the end of the day its up to the individual. To some a score helps them decide to others not.

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Re: IGN review of Ultimate Tenkaichi:

Post by mysticboy » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:43 pm

I hope IGN is more popular than Gamespot.

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Re: IGN review of Ultimate Tenkaichi:

Post by Saimaroimaru » Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:36 pm

mysticboy wrote:I hope IGN is more popular than Gamespot.
Gamespot still exists? Good lord.

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Re: IGN review of Ultimate Tenkaichi:

Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:26 pm

^Gamespot is still reviews games and I believe their forums are still alive. I remember being a part of many Dragon Ball unions back in 2005-2006 but I'm pretty sure they are all dead now.
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Re: IGN review of Ultimate Tenkaichi:

Post by funrush » Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:40 am

Saimaroimaru wrote:
mysticboy wrote:I hope IGN is more popular than Gamespot.
Gamespot still exists? Good lord.
So I think that's a yes.

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Re: IGN review of Ultimate Tenkaichi:

Post by Saimaroimaru » Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:08 pm

funrush wrote:
Saimaroimaru wrote:
mysticboy wrote:I hope IGN is more popular than Gamespot.
Gamespot still exists? Good lord.
So I think that's a yes.
I figured that out from reading Hell's post.

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Re: IGN review of Ultimate Tenkaichi:

Post by Super Saiyajin Luffy » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:25 pm

To be fair, DBZ UT is one of the more controversial DBZ games. Game's content, animation, graphics may be great, but for some DBZ-fans, the game is just unappealing.

Some fans were waiting on a serious DBZ-fighter with the right amount of content a long time, but they probably got ignored.

Gamespot may have given the game a 4/10, but that's only, because the reviewer this time was probably reviewing the game as a fighting game, which DBZ UT disqualifies for. Even the IGN review say, that the game is flawed in the gameplay department.
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Re: IGN review of Ultimate Tenkaichi:

Post by VegettoEX » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:36 pm

I would never in my life dream of officially giving a game a numerical score in a review...

But even if you don't think of "Ultimate Blast/Tenkaichi" as a "fighting game", a "4" (out of 10?) is *not* insane.

At all.
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Re: IGN review of Ultimate Tenkaichi:

Post by SpaceKappa » Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:38 pm

I've always hated the idea of a numerical score (or stars and what have you) on reviews because I feel like they undermine the entire rest of the review. People scroll past all the text, see the number, and they're done. Not to mention big name games will often get high scores simply because they're part of a big franchise. However, I write for a video game website now where numerical scores are used and it's not something I assign lightly.

I think rather than getting hung up on the scores of reviews, we should start getting hung up on what people are writing. Despite how much I'm enjoying the game, I can completely understand the complaints people have about it, and I haven't really seen anything outlandish or untrue in any review I've read so far.
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Re: IGN review of Ultimate Tenkaichi:

Post by mysticboy » Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:25 pm

I'm fine with numerical score, so long as the reviewer does the game justice and actually tries to critique it.

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