Current-Gen Spike Games compared to Budokai Tenkaichi 3

[Rukura]

Um, no I never said I didn't care about the gameplay. I care about both. I don't want a big roster and terrible gameplay, and I don't want to sacrifice the entire roster to get generic fighting clone gameplay.

The previous posts would have me believe otherwise, because what I'm reading isn't "I don't think x game is good because of x gameplay element or lack there of" but more of "I don't like x game because it doesn't have x z y characters.
But hey, I'll take your word for it.

With all that in mind, the only game that would be good by those standards is Budokai 3....which is Dimps...so, bottom line, we're all still screwed in terms of games right now regardless of our tastes

[Saiga]

Hey, I like Dimps' games (the ones I've played, anyway: Budokai 1 - 3 and BL).

Anyway, I mentioned gameplay in how BT3 characters are clones - they play the same. That's a big part of gameplay to me - diversity and uniqueness.

[Rukura]

Sadly, they're probably not coming. I'd love to see a Burst Limit 2 or a "Dragon Ball: Budokai Heroes" though...

I get excited with the prospect of someone new coming to do something different with the franchise...

[mysticboy]

Omega2040's review:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIXurpH5 ... ture=feedu
I disagree with that score, but I can see where it stems from.

[Saimaroimaru]

Hey, I like Dimps' games (the ones I've played, anyway: Budokai 1 - 3 and BL).

Anyway, I mentioned gameplay in how BT3 characters are clones - they play the same. That's a big part of gameplay to me - diversity and uniqueness.

I agree I like Dimps games after all my most favorite DBZ game of all time is Budokai 2. But the Budokai series is just a 2d fighter is a dbz paint coat.

[Rocketman]

So, basically, you don't care about the gameplay?

Pretty much. I care that it's functional, that the game is glitch-free and the controls aren't laggy, sure. But as far as "depth"...I don't care. I've spent far, far more time on the BT series than on the 'deep' games (excepting the time before BT1).

[Rukura]

So, basically, you don't care about the gameplay?

Pretty much. I care that it's functional, that the game is glitch-free and the controls aren't laggy, sure. But as far as "depth"...I don't care. I've spent far, far more time on the BT series than on the 'deep' games (excepting the time before BT1).

Huh. Well......then I guess Ultimate Tenkaichi was targeted towards gamers like you. Cheers, mate.

Now can we have something fun, please?

[SparkyPantsMcGee]

Now can we have something fun, please?

There's always the past I guess.

[Rukura]

Now can we have something fun, please?

There's always the past I guess.

Yeah, but I wanna keep the past ones fun and not get bored of them

This last game made it clear that Spike cannot continue making Dragon Ball games right now. I'm hoping that they let someone take a fresh take on it and really surprise everyone

[Saiga]

I think UT is fun

[Rocketman]

Huh. Well......then I guess Ultimate Tenkaichi was targeted towards gamers like you. Cheers, mate.

Cast too small and character creator too shitty to make up the difference.

[Rukura]

Huh. Well......then I guess Ultimate Tenkaichi was targeted towards gamers like you. Cheers, mate.

Cast too small and character creator too shitty to make up the difference.

Very fair point.

[Saiga]

I'm a little iffy about getting a new developer with no experience with Dragon Ball Z games. At least Spike and Dimps both have experience working on it.

[SparkyPantsMcGee]

I'm a little iffy about getting a new developer with no experience with Dragon Ball Z games. At least Spike and Dimps both have experience working on it.

Tell me, and be honest here, did you have clue who Spike and Dimps were before Dragonball? And hell, even if you did, understand that Bandai isn't going to pick up some hobo off the street and ask him to make the next Dragonball game. Then again, given Spike's Track record, there really wouldn't be much of a difference...BA-ZING!
please don't kill me

[Saiga]

I didn't know, but then I didn't know who they were until Budokai Tenkaichi was out and someone explained to me that it was from a different developer from the Budokai series (I was 12-13).

Look at it this way, Budokai 1 and BT1 both had a lot of faults, because they were the developers first DBZ games. I think we're just going to get the same with a new developer, but worse because it's on PS360 now.

[mysticboy]

please don't kill me

No, you've made your bed now lay in it!
*KA-ME-HA-ME....HAAA*

But, seriously, Shueisha want's a game every year and the sells continue to drop. How about the give the licence to a new publisher? Another publisher that puts out games every year, has more money than NB, makes an effort to advertise the product, and doesn't shit the consumer. Hmm. EA? Maybe. Capcom? They sell unfinished games only to have buy a special edition version 8 months later. Activision? Fuck no. Sega? Nope. THQ? That's the best option. They release games each year and the improvements made on those games are noticeable. Plus they have more money to fund the games, which means more accessibility to more resources to help develop that game.

[Saiga]

But, seriously, Shueisha want's a game every year and the sells continue to drop. How about the give the licence to a new publisher? Another publisher that puts out games every year, has more money than NB, makes an effort to advertise the product, and doesn't shit the consumer. Hmm. EA? Maybe. Capcom? They sell unfinished games only to have buy a special edition version 8 months later. Activision? Fuck no. Sega? Nope. THQ? That's the best option. They release games each year and the improvements made on those games are noticeable. Plus they have more money to fund the games, which means more accessibility to more resources to help develop that game.

What games have THQ made?

[Rukura]

Look at it this way, Budokai 1 and BT1 both had a lot of faults, because they were the developers first DBZ games. I think we're just going to get the same with a new developer, but worse because it's on PS360 now.

Then again, Burst Limit was a great first new gen game. Raging Blast, on the other hand, didn't even get the camera right.

EA? Maybe. Capcom? They sell unfinished games only to have buy a special edition version 8 months later. Activision? Fuck no. Sega? Nope. THQ? That's the best option. They release games each year and the improvements made on those games are noticeable. Plus they have more money to fund the games, which means more accessibility to more resources to help develop that game.

If those were to be the only option, we'd be fucked. I'd rather keep it in Japan, where they know that the series isn't JUST called Dragon Ball Z.

Also, while I understand the logic behind not wanting Capcom...keep in mind the quality of the games that they have, that they do constantly re-release.

[Titan]

please don't kill me

No, you've made your bed now lay in it!
*KA-ME-HA-ME....HAAA*

But, seriously, Shueisha want's a game every year and the sells continue to drop. How about the give the licence to a new publisher? Another publisher that puts out games every year, has more money than NB, makes an effort to advertise the product, and doesn't shit the consumer. Hmm. EA?

EA would be a great choice they've made a fantastic job with Fifa series and boxing series.
They gave fans everything they wanted,plus, they accepted the criticism in a positive fashion.After several complains, they decided to add DLC to complete the game.
In Fight Night champions or FIFA we have a real character creator.The CaC made by Spike is a lazy joke.

[SparkyPantsMcGee]

I'd like someone who is experienced in making fighting games; not someone who is experienced in churning games out like an assembly line. What's that saying, quality not quantity?