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Re: FUNimation to put DBZ on Blu-Ray

Post by penguintruth » Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:18 pm

I still say the Blu-Ray colors look way too dark.
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:21 pm

penguintruth wrote:I still say the Blu-Ray colors look way too dark.
They do look, take a sneak at Piccolo's face and Raditz's scouter for an instance and compare to the Dragon Box / Dragon Ball Kai Blu-rays.
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Post by Choujin Daizenshuu » Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:36 pm

Ashura wrote:Let people have their fun, I say. I know there are memes and 'net slang I don't particularly like, but that doesn't mean other people don't like it.
Okay, I didn't want to have to write this but now I feel that I have to because people are too oblivious into how out-of-hand this meme really is.

I live in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. Every year we have our own anime convention called Ai-Kon which attracts anime fans local and out of province. One of our frequent recurring guests every year is Greg Ayres. Now Greg is a great guy who really helps keep things lively. Double that when his brother, Chris is also a guest. He provides great panels on voice acting, fansubs and the anime industry in general.

Back in 2010, I had a talk with Greg about various things including his thoughts on the whole over 9000 meme. Greg stated that while the meme was popular, apparently it led to major misunderstandings between Chris Sabat and the fans regarding the fact that he [Sabat] never had a role in it. Greg stated that Sabat had constantly explained to fans over and over at other cons that he never did over 9000 as it was done by Canadian actor, Brian Drummond. However, that didn't stop some fans from following Sabat around, expecting him to do the line. Some fans would beg, whine and even go as far as demand Sabat do the line or they wouldn't leave him alone. Sabat would not do the line as he constantly stated that it wasn't him who did it to begin with. It was getting so bad that Sabat was even contemplating not making any more con appearances.

Cue to the following year. Ai-Kon 2011 was in full swing and we actually had Chris Sabat as one of our guests. During the opening ceremonies, Sabat addressed the crowd by doing the over 9000 line and then reminded them that it was the only time he would be doing that for the convention. Later after the end of a panel, I talked to Sabat regarding his honest thoughts on the over 9000 meme. Sabat looked upset and stated that he didn't really want to talk about it. And I can't blame him considering what Greg told me the previous year.

This is also one of the big reasons why I don't like the meme. It's one thing to have fun with it but it's another thing to harass somebody famous in the industry like Sabat with it. If people still want to have fun with it, then they can have fun with it. They just have to remember when fun stops being fun and starts being harassment.

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Re: FUNimation to put DBZ on Blu-Ray

Post by funrush » Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:36 pm

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Ashura wrote:Let people have their fun, I say. I know there are memes and 'net slang I don't particularly like, but that doesn't mean other people don't like it.
Okay, I didn't want to have to write this but now I feel that I have to because people are too oblivious into how out-of-hand this meme really is.

I live in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. Every year we have our own anime convention called Ai-Kon which attracts anime fans local and out of province. One of our frequent recurring guests every year is Greg Ayres. Now Greg is a great guy who really helps keep things lively. Double that when his brother, Chris is also a guest. He provides great panels on voice acting, fansubs and the anime industry in general.

Back in 2010, I had a talk with Greg about various things including his thoughts on the whole over 9000 meme. Greg stated that while the meme was popular, apparently it led to major misunderstandings between Chris Sabat and the fans regarding the fact that he [Sabat] never had a role in it. Greg stated that Sabat had constantly explained to fans over and over at other cons that he never did over 9000 as it was done by Canadian actor, Brian Drummond. However, that didn't stop some fans from following Sabat around, expecting him to do the line. Some fans would beg, whine and even go as far as demand Sabat do the line or they wouldn't leave him alone. Sabat would not do the line as he constantly stated that it wasn't him who did it to begin with. It was getting so bad that Sabat was even contemplating not making any more con appearances.

Cue to the following year. Ai-Kon 2011 was in full swing and we actually had Chris Sabat as one of our guests. During the opening ceremonies, Sabat addressed the crowd by doing the over 9000 line and then reminded them that it was the only time he would be doing that for the convention. Later after the end of a panel, I talked to Sabat regarding his honest thoughts on the over 9000 meme. Sabat looked upset and stated that he didn't really want to talk about it. And I can't blame him considering what Greg told me the previous year.

This is also one of the big reasons why I don't like the meme. It's one thing to have fun with it but it's another thing to harass somebody famous in the industry like Sabat with it. If people still want to have fun with it, then they can have fun with it. They just have to remember when fun stops being fun and starts being harassment.
Wow. I knew he didn't like the meme, but damn, that must be tough. He was harassed by fans? Maybe he should hire a bodyguard whenever he goes to cons. I wonder if Drummond gets that kind of crap.

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Re: FUNimation to put DBZ on Blu-Ray

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Choujin Daizenshuu wrote:
Ashura wrote:Let people have their fun, I say. I know there are memes and 'net slang I don't particularly like, but that doesn't mean other people don't like it.
Okay, I didn't want to have to write this but now I feel that I have to because people are too oblivious into how out-of-hand this meme really is.

I live in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. Every year we have our own anime convention called Ai-Kon which attracts anime fans local and out of province. One of our frequent recurring guests every year is Greg Ayres. Now Greg is a great guy who really helps keep things lively. Double that when his brother, Chris is also a guest. He provides great panels on voice acting, fansubs and the anime industry in general.

Back in 2010, I had a talk with Greg about various things including his thoughts on the whole over 9000 meme. Greg stated that while the meme was popular, apparently it led to major misunderstandings between Chris Sabat and the fans regarding the fact that he [Sabat] never had a role in it. Greg stated that Sabat had constantly explained to fans over and over at other cons that he never did over 9000 as it was done by Canadian actor, Brian Drummond. However, that didn't stop some fans from following Sabat around, expecting him to do the line. Some fans would beg, whine and even go as far as demand Sabat do the line or they wouldn't leave him alone. Sabat would not do the line as he constantly stated that it wasn't him who did it to begin with. It was getting so bad that Sabat was even contemplating not making any more con appearances.

Cue to the following year. Ai-Kon 2011 was in full swing and we actually had Chris Sabat as one of our guests. During the opening ceremonies, Sabat addressed the crowd by doing the over 9000 line and then reminded them that it was the only time he would be doing that for the convention. Later after the end of a panel, I talked to Sabat regarding his honest thoughts on the over 9000 meme. Sabat looked upset and stated that he didn't really want to talk about it. And I can't blame him considering what Greg told me the previous year.

This is also one of the big reasons why I don't like the meme. It's one thing to have fun with it but it's another thing to harass somebody famous in the industry like Sabat with it. If people still want to have fun with it, then they can have fun with it. They just have to remember when fun stops being fun and starts being harassment.
Any meme or really any quote can be used that way towards an actor or a person in general. I really don't see the point in this being typed out, given that its context can broadly apply to anything and just seems utterly trivial in that respect. Plus this thread is getting derailed by a large margin considering the 9000 bullshit has nothing to do with the Blue-Ray release.
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Re: FUNimation to put DBZ on Blu-Ray

Post by penguintruth » Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:53 pm

funrush wrote:I wonder if Drummond gets that kind of crap.
I don't think Drummond gets out to conventions as much as Sabat does.
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Re: FUNimation to put DBZ on Blu-Ray

Post by funrush » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:01 pm

Perfect wrote:
Choujin Daizenshuu wrote:
Ashura wrote:Let people have their fun, I say. I know there are memes and 'net slang I don't particularly like, but that doesn't mean other people don't like it.
Okay, I didn't want to have to write this but now I feel that I have to because people are too oblivious into how out-of-hand this meme really is.

I live in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. Every year we have our own anime convention called Ai-Kon which attracts anime fans local and out of province. One of our frequent recurring guests every year is Greg Ayres. Now Greg is a great guy who really helps keep things lively. Double that when his brother, Chris is also a guest. He provides great panels on voice acting, fansubs and the anime industry in general.

Back in 2010, I had a talk with Greg about various things including his thoughts on the whole over 9000 meme. Greg stated that while the meme was popular, apparently it led to major misunderstandings between Chris Sabat and the fans regarding the fact that he [Sabat] never had a role in it. Greg stated that Sabat had constantly explained to fans over and over at other cons that he never did over 9000 as it was done by Canadian actor, Brian Drummond. However, that didn't stop some fans from following Sabat around, expecting him to do the line. Some fans would beg, whine and even go as far as demand Sabat do the line or they wouldn't leave him alone. Sabat would not do the line as he constantly stated that it wasn't him who did it to begin with. It was getting so bad that Sabat was even contemplating not making any more con appearances.

Cue to the following year. Ai-Kon 2011 was in full swing and we actually had Chris Sabat as one of our guests. During the opening ceremonies, Sabat addressed the crowd by doing the over 9000 line and then reminded them that it was the only time he would be doing that for the convention. Later after the end of a panel, I talked to Sabat regarding his honest thoughts on the over 9000 meme. Sabat looked upset and stated that he didn't really want to talk about it. And I can't blame him considering what Greg told me the previous year.

This is also one of the big reasons why I don't like the meme. It's one thing to have fun with it but it's another thing to harass somebody famous in the industry like Sabat with it. If people still want to have fun with it, then they can have fun with it. They just have to remember when fun stops being fun and starts being harassment.
Any meme or really any quote can be used that way towards an actor or a person in general. I really don't see the point in this being typed out, given that its context can broadly apply to anything and just seems utterly trivial in that respect. Plus this thread is getting derailed by a large margin considering the 9000 bullshit has nothing to do with the Blue-Ray release.
I guess you do have a point. Like, I wonder how many people have asked Rick Astley to rickroll them. Or that guy from Star Trek to face palm? Or the voice of Vader in Episode III to scream Noooo?

And yes, we should get back to talking about the actual Blurays. I for one, thought the back of the box for 1.1 was pretty interesting. I wonder what kind of stuff they'll put on 1.2's back cover?
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Re: FUNimation to put DBZ on Blu-Ray

Post by Gonstead » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:01 pm

Really, I don't get why people ask Sabat or Drummond over and over again to say the line. There are perfectly good examples on Youtube where both have said it and it's been recorded.

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Re: FUNimation to put DBZ on Blu-Ray

Post by Ringworm128 » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:06 pm

VegettoEX wrote:The original videos that spawn the memes/discussions/examples/whatever? They're (see what I did there...? ^_~) not the problem.

The problem is when you can't walk two inches on the Internet with this franchise without having it shoved down your throat, as if one moment from one random dub of the series that someone decided to take out of context and make a humorous video about somehow defines the entire franchise and its fandom.

When future products from legitimate companies responsible for the well-being of the franchise bank on it for their own marketing.

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I can see what you all mean when when you all say how you want 9000 to die. But it's just not going to happen. 9000 and a lot of other memes are a part of online culture now, so wanting people to stop cracking 9000 jokes on anything DBZ related is like asking people not to say “cheese” when their having their picture taken or not to sing Happy Birthday on someones birthday. Also whats wrong with Funi using 9000 for marketing? They have got to use something, so why not something a lot of DBZ fans are used to? Think of it like having people rapping or punk rock music playing in some old 90s ad in order to target the kids from that genoration. Back on topic‚ wasn't there supposed to be some thing called Journy to The West thing detailing how Funi got DBZ and brought it to the US?

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Re: FUNimation to put DBZ on Blu-Ray

Post by funrush » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:12 pm

ringworm128 wrote:
VegettoEX wrote:The original videos that spawn the memes/discussions/examples/whatever? They're (see what I did there...? ^_~) not the problem.

The problem is when you can't walk two inches on the Internet with this franchise without having it shoved down your throat, as if one moment from one random dub of the series that someone decided to take out of context and make a humorous video about somehow defines the entire franchise and its fandom.

When future products from legitimate companies responsible for the well-being of the franchise bank on it for their own marketing.

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I can see what you all mean when when you all say how you want 9000 to die. But it's just not going to happen. 9000 and a lot of other memes are a part of online culture now, so wanting people to stop cracking 9000 jokes on anything DBZ related is like asking people not to say “cheese” when their having their picture taken or not to sing Happy Birthday on someones birthday. Also whats wrong with Funi using 9000 for marketing? They have got to use something, so why not something a lot of DBZ fans are used to? Think of it like having people rapping or punk rock music playing in some old 90s ad in order to target the kids from that genoration. Back on topic‚ wasn't there supposed to be some thing called Journy to The West thing detailing how Funi got DBZ and brought it to the US?
I think that's going to be in 1.2, correct me if I'm wrong.

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Post by Ringworm128 » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:20 pm

penguintruth wrote:
funrush wrote:I wonder if Drummond gets that kind of crap.
I don't think Drummond gets out to conventions as much as Sabat does.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNcVIMNMu28 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am_3YokNJP8 Found these two vids.
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Post by VegettoEX » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:21 pm

While I do apologize for also contributing to the slightly-off-topic discussion (we... umm... talked about the Blu-ray marketing...?), let's indeed try to steer things back toward the actual Blu-ray sets. Many thanks!
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Post by OutlawTorn » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:50 pm

penguintruth wrote:
funrush wrote:I wonder if Drummond gets that kind of crap.
I don't think Drummond gets out to conventions as much as Sabat does.
I know I've seen a YouTube video where Drummond says the "over 9000" line (after he sign's the guy's card) though it doesn't quite sound like the way he did it in the show.

I see no problem with the joke itself. If people find it funny, that's great and, if not, it's just not their humour... but I think the people who would go to cons and harass Chris Sabat to do the line are those who take it way too far. I mean, if he's good enough to say a line in his character's voice, the least people can do is not piss him off if he really does not want to say it. I like when he asked to say the line and he says it in a mocking manner.

There have been sound bytes years ago where Transformers fans would get the voice actors to recite lines, either memes from within the fandom which had nothing to do with the show or just random nonsense. It yielded results such as Scott McNeil saying in Dinobot's voice "Dinobot has spoken... my rigid grill structure!" and Jim Byrnes reciting as Inferno "Go to snooze, my Queen!"

David Hewlett was even asked once to say "I love you, John Sheppard", apparently in response to Joe Flanigan having said "I love you, Doctor McKay."

What this has me wondering, though, is if "over 9000" bothers Sabat that much, why would FUNimation integrate it into their promo for the first Dragon Box, which would just serve the purpose of perpetuating the joke and having more people wanting Sabat to perform it at conventions? Not to mention the Kai version of the line being much closer to Drummond's inflection than the redub version.

I also wonder how often the voice of Pikachu is asked to perform the voice? (yes, that was one of the "related" videos to the Sabat video above)

Just so this has something to do with the Blu-rays, and I may feel like a bit of an idiot for even asking this, but does anyone know how to zoom in when watching with a PS3 so I can have the picture fill my entire (still have a 4:3 TV) screen, instead of letterboxed on all four sides? I don't have a PS3 DVD remote, all I've got is the controller and whatever options it can handle.

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Post by AgitoZ » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:58 pm

OutlawTorn wrote:What this has me wondering, though, is if "over 9000" bothers Sabat that much, why would FUNimation integrate it into their promo for the first Dragon Box, which would just serve the purpose of perpetuating the joke and having more people wanting Sabat to perform it at conventions?
Cause it's good marketing.
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Post by Choujin Daizenshuu » Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:26 pm

Perfect wrote:Any meme or really any quote can be used that way towards an actor or a person in general. I really don't see the point in this being typed out, given that its context can broadly apply to anything and just seems utterly trivial in that respect. Plus this thread is getting derailed by a large margin considering the 9000 bullshit has nothing to do with the Blue-Ray release.
There is a difference in context regarding a simple request and a rude demand. I can see Sabat putting up with a fan or group of fans if they ask politely. If they're being demanding, he shouldn't have to put up with that.
funrush wrote:I guess you do have a point. Like, I wonder how many people have asked Rick Astley to rickroll them. Or that guy from Star Trek to face palm? Or the voice of Vader in Episode III to scream Noooo?
But some fans legitimately believe that Sabat himself came up with the over 9000 line and it is these same fans who harass him for it. Sabat doesn't owe these people any favors for something that he did not come up with. It would be dishonest on his part and that is why he would always have to tell them the real story behind the line. Why should he take credit for someone else's work?
ringworm128 wrote:I can see what you all mean when when you all say how you want 9000 to die. But it's just not going to happen. 9000 and a lot of other memes are a part of online culture now, so wanting people to stop cracking 9000 jokes on anything DBZ related is like asking people not to say “cheese” when their having their picture taken or not to sing Happy Birthday on someones birthday. Also whats wrong with Funi using 9000 for marketing? They have got to use something, so why not something a lot of DBZ fans are used to? Think of it like having people rapping or punk rock music playing in some old 90s ad in order to target the kids from that genoration. Back on topic‚ wasn't there supposed to be some thing called Journy to The West thing detailing how Funi got DBZ and brought it to the US?
Okay, no...just no. This is not a form of culture. It's just an excuse to act stupid, period. Add to the fact that this is nothing more than a fad that is already tired and you'll see this meme dropped within the next year. Two years tops. I think I speak for the silent majority when I say GET OVER IT!
OutlawTorn wrote:What this has me wondering, though, is if "over 9000" bothers Sabat that much, why would FUNimation integrate it into their promo for the first Dragon Box, which would just serve the purpose of perpetuating the joke and having more people wanting Sabat to perform it at conventions? Not to mention the Kai version of the line being much closer to Drummond's inflection than the redub version.
I think Sabat is aware that marketing of a meme has greater precedence than his personal feelings on it. It still doesn't guarantee that the meme will last.

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Post by samuraix123 » Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:31 am

Did anyone notice on the back of the case for level 1.1 on the bottom right it says 16x9 But in the text stuff it says original 4x3 format? How could they mess that up? or is there something I'm not getting?
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Post by Kendamu » Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:33 am

samuraix123 wrote:Did anyone notice on the back of the case for level 1.1 on the bottom right it says 16x9 But in the text stuff it says original 4x3 format? How could they mess that up? or is there something I'm not getting?
The menus and trailers are likely in 16:9. Also, the video itself has hard-coded pillar boxes since, for some reason I don't understand, anamorphic 4:3 can't exist on Blu-ray.

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samuraix123 wrote:Did anyone notice on the back of the case for level 1.1 on the bottom right it says 16x9 But in the text stuff it says original 4x3 format? How could they mess that up? or is there something I'm not getting?
All hi-def material is 16x9. 4x3 footage is encoded with black bars to the sides to create a 16x9 image.

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Post by Choujin Daizenshuu » Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:55 am

But...the Blu-Ray footage is the original 4x3 format from FUNimation's masters, correct? Only with hard-coded pillar boxes?

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Post by dbboxkaifan » Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:22 am

The Blu-ray's 16:9 counting the black bars.

If you go with the actual video then the Blu-ray is in fact 4:3.
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