Is it strange listening to two Nozawa voices talk?

Gaffer Tape · Post by **Gaffer Tape** » Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:11 pm

Well, while I have not bothered until now to take part in this thread, I think there actually would be some interesting discussion to be had if people were actually staying on topic! This, as I understand it, has nothing to do with whether you like her Goku, or if you find her voice jarring in general, but whether or not you find the show's tendency to cast her as everyone who looks like/is related to (except Raditz) is jarring when you have to hear them constantly interact with each other. If we could just stay off the usual "Nozawa sounds like screeching monkey/Nozawa is God's gift to voice acting!" back and forth there might be some new substance here.

As for me, while I don't necessarily think she has the diversity of, well, Mel Blanc, I'm pretty sure someone could play me an audio clip, and I could immediately tell which character it was because there is enough of a differentiation there that I can tell. But now watching the Boo arc with the Dragon Boxes, I can tell that they are similar enough that it can be jarring on occasion. But I don't know if I would want to change it. Goten is so cute, and her Bardock and Tullece are just amazingly creepy, probably her best work. And, like others have said, there certainly isn't the problem here that FUNimation had back when Chris Sabat was voicing 2/3rds of the cast.

penguintruth · Post by **penguintruth** » Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:41 pm

Goku is jarring in of himself.

perucho1990 · Post by **perucho1990** » Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:46 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:Back when I was 15 or so and first saw the Japanese version of DragonBall Z? Sure. I had seen English and Spanish dubs and was used to Goku sounding like a generic superhero.

Within a short period of time, I couldn't imagine anyone else doing the voices she does. I mean, Goku isn't your typical testosterone-laden bad-ass comic book hero. He's not Batman, he's not Superman and he sure as hell isn't Wolverine. I love Kevin Conroy, Tim Daly and Cathal Dodd/Scott McNeil/Steve Blum's takes on those characters because they're faithful, but none of those actors could portray Son Goku. Goku is a man-child who just happens to be the strongest guy around.

I think a lot of it comes from people not really getting the character. Partially from DragonBall not airing over here at a decent hour/in its entirety until after Z (and maybe GT, I forget). Partially from FUNi trying to change the character to be another generic hero. Goku doesn't fight to save the world or out of moral obligation, he's just a simple-minded guy who gets excited at the chance to fight someone stronger than him and is usually completely oblivious to the bigger picture. Hell, look at when Trunks arrives and tells Goku about the Artificial Humans. He doesn't get pissed because they kill his friends, or turn the future into hell on earth...he just wants to fight the strong guys. And when we do see Goku get incredibly serious, it's usually because of an emotional outburst, which again points to his child-like qualities.

In any case, I grew quickly to love Nozawa's voices. At the age of 75, she still manages to amaze me and I can't imagine anyone taking her place.

This guy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kappei_Yamaguchi

The voice of Ranma and Inuyasha.

@TheBlackPaladin.

Agreed about Torres doing a good job as Kid Goku, completely nailed it, same goes when she voiced Gohan. Her voice as Goten was meh.

About Castaneda, imo, I always found him corny and annoying.

penguintruth · Post by **penguintruth** » Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:59 pm

Daisuke Namikawa might also make a good Goku, if they ever need a new one.

Not that there ever should be. They should cryogenically freeze Nozawa until they can download her into a robot body.

B · Post by B » Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:10 pm

Thinking about it, it wouldn't have been a terrible idea for Gohan to have a different voice, if only because I associate Nozawa with Goku so much. I don't have problem with the voice in and of itself, though.

Michsi · Post by **Michsi** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:34 am

penguintruth wrote:Daisuke Namikawa might also make a good Goku, if they ever need a new one.

Isn't his voice a bit too...deep? I know he can use higher-pitch but if his Kazehaya and Fay are anything to go by, than it's also way to soft/smooth for someone like Goku. I don't know if he could pull of his unrefined-ness

Talking about bringing something new to the table, while I see a lot of people talk about the sound of Nowaza's voice, not that many talk about her acting. This is what actually makes me prefer her Goku, since I also agree that this voice is too high pitched for a man of Goku's bulk.

This guy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kappei_Yamaguchi

This is the first name that popped up in my head when I thought about who could replace Nozawa as Goku. Then I tried to imagine Goku with his voice. I just couldn't do it. I'm not saying it can't work, but I keep hearing Ussop and Inuyasha.

By the way, didn't he play Goku in the japanese release of DBE?

dbboxkaifan · Post by **dbboxkaifan** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:06 am

^ He did apparently.

"Dubbing roles: Dragonball Evolution (Son Gokū)"

Sample: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUSWb2mXDZg

Alternatively to Nozawa he could be Son's voice, but I still can't get to like his voice as Goku as much as Nozawa's done.

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:11 pm

When Gokuu and the others are recast I'd hope for Park Romi. She definently has the acting range to pull all of Nozawa's characters off.

TVfan721 · Post by **TVfan721** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:03 pm

Here's something interesting to think about, even the awesome Mexican dub which is known for being the most accurate and faithful DBZ dub in the world had Goku's voice changed so that it would be deeper.

Perfect · Post by **Perfect** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:10 pm

tvfan721 wrote:even the awesome Mexican dub which is known for being the most accurate and faithful DBZ dub in the world

Absolutely, completely, 100% subjective.

dbboxkaifan · Post by **dbboxkaifan** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:46 pm

tvfan721 wrote:Here's something interesting to think about, even the awesome Mexican dub which is known for being the most accurate and faithful DBZ dub in the world had Goku's voice changed so that it would be deeper.

The most accurate DBZ Dub? I'm not sure the Mexican DBZ Dub is all that precise.

But the Brazilian Portuguese DBZ Dub sure is. Maybe a tie, perhaps.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:50 pm

tvfan721 wrote:Here's something interesting to think about, even the awesome Mexican dub which is known for being the most accurate and faithful DBZ dub in the world had Goku's voice changed so that it would be deeper.

What do you expect? They're still gaijin.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Sat Dec 03, 2011 1:52 pm

Now that the topic has been more clearly defined (even reading the original post, I thought the question was more about what one thinks of Nozawa in general with the OP stating his opinion based on multiple characters she voiced talking to each other being off-putting)...

No, still not jarring. Again, at first it was a little bit, but no moreso than any other show with two characters talking to each other done by the same actor. The more I watched the show (which, we're talking over the course of a few episodes, not months or years), the more I could clearly tell which character was which without watching the animation. Each has their own distinct vocal attributes.

Hell, even Sabat who was an amateur at the start of Season 3, could vary his voices enough that I could tell his Piccolo from his Vegeta and so forth. Could I tell they were all Sabat? Yep. Was it off-putting? No, not for that reason.

perucho1990 · Post by **perucho1990** » Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:54 pm

JulieYBM wrote:When Gokuu and the others are recast I'd hope for Park Romi. She definently has the acting range to pull all of Nozawa's characters off.

The voice of Temari, Digimon Emperor, Tao Ren?

She can fit as the voice of #18 and maybe Gohan(Pre-Teen/Teen Gohan), thats it.

MCDaveG · Post by **MCDaveG** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:34 am

I really don't fluffing care nor see the point in this question. She's great actor and every character she portrays have it's own distinctive way of speaking and voice is also different. When Gohan is grown-up, he still have a different voice than Goku. More hi-pitched. Even as a kid in Z, he sounds completelly different then kid Goku.

Rory · Post by **Rory** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:14 am

MCDaveG wrote:I really don't fluffing care nor see the point in this question.

Some people do see the point of questions and discussions on a message board. Quit being a prick.
Also, I think the Nozawa portrayals sound more than different enough to not be jarring on-(or off)screen. Especially when comparing say... Tarles to Gohan.

MCDaveG · Post by **MCDaveG** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:18 am

Yeah, some people have unstopping need to always bring up the: ''Nozawa is an old hag which sound terrible to me as a fan of dub with OMG awesome Schemmel.''
This theme is brought up almost 2 times a month.
So I can do a thread, does Schemmel sound like a retard when he screams to all you Japanese version fans?

It only pisses me off and it's my point of view so I can freely state my thoughts and feelings on message board,
if I'm not attacking any of fellow users or use really nasty words.
Yeah, sometimes I'm a prick and I know that

PS: how is that I'm no longer dick?

xXInfinite026Xx · Post by **xXInfinite026Xx** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:00 pm

perucho1990 wrote: This guy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kappei_Yamaguchi

The voice of Ranma and Inuyasha.

Holy Sh*t! It's like you read my mind or something!

I was planning on making a video [and most likely still will] on Kappei Yamaguchi voicing older Goku as a "what-if" situation to see what sub and dub fans alike would feel about it. You good sir, have beaten me to the punch with the general idea.

Puto · Post by **Puto** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:29 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:
tvfan721 wrote:Here's something interesting to think about, even the awesome Mexican dub which is known for being the most accurate and faithful DBZ dub in the world had Goku's voice changed so that it would be deeper.
The most accurate DBZ Dub? I'm not sure the Mexican DBZ Dub is all that precise.

But the Brazilian Portuguese DBZ Dub sure is. Maybe a tie, perhaps.

The Brazilian Portuguese dub is a translation OF the Mexican dub.

xXInfinite026Xx wrote:
perucho1990 wrote: This guy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kappei_Yamaguchi

The voice of Ranma and Inuyasha.
Holy Sh*t! It's like you read my mind or something!

I was planning on making a video [and most likely still will] on Kappei Yamaguchi voicing older Goku as a "what-if" situation to see what sub and dub fans alike would feel about it. You good sir, have beaten me to the punch with the general idea.

^ Use voice clips from DBE. Especially stuff the Kame Hame Ha.

MCDaveG · Post by **MCDaveG** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:32 am

I can't imagine Goku talking as Usopp

Kanzenshuu

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